To be majorly pissed off at new lockdown rules?

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Teen DD has been looking forward to Eid for weeks. She has desperately been waiting to see the rest of her family and now we've been absolutely screwed over. She cried for most of the morning on and off and I'm just so annoyed that she's entering this state of absolute desolation again because she wasn't given a chance to prepare for Eid not being on. She was okay the last time if not very bored because she knew what was happening but this time she's just absolutely gutted. AIBU to be so angry? I just feel like it's ruined our day and I've wasted a whole load of money that I won't get back on food.

Boris is that you?

It's really sad and it must be hard for teenagers and kids to understand why family gatherings to celebrate Eid have suddenly been cancelled.

I know Christians couldn't celebrate Easter as normal but had notice of this and time to get their heads around it as did Muslims with Eid al Fitr and Jews with passover.

I just hope that at some point we get back to a situation where people of all faiths can look forward to their religious festivals with the certainty they will be able to gather with their loved ones. I fear it won't happen for quite some time 😕

I missed Easter too. I cried and cried!. Not because there is a pandemic! Survival of the human race tops religion!

The thing is with Eid is that families get together. Inside.

It seems that if they had said the lockdown would be immediately after Eid then the short delay would have allowed the virus to spread significantly amongst families at Eid. Particularly BAME families and families with older relatives.

I think that at the current time, considering what has been cancelled: cancer treatment, GCSE/Alevels and now Eid in certain places, nothing is off limits for cancellation. And I think that both the coming school term and Christmas could end up cancelled or modified. The difference between curtailing Eid and Christmas is simply money so I’d guess Christmas is less likely to be cancelled because the economy needs people to spend.

Yanbu to be upset though.

Part of the problem throughout has been the govt announcing a process then ignoring said process. The stages out of lockdown being a good example and the stages for managing local lockdowns another - if the government says 'this is how we categorise areas of concern - a ladder from A - D but actually they jump from B to D something is amiss. Either their data is not good enough, or they're not listening, or they're shit at communications or quite possibly with this lot - all of the above.

Re Easter, does anybody recall 10/15 years ago, supermarket staff wishing people Happy Easter. Or people asking you What are you doing for Easter? Did you have a good Easter?
Were there images of happy families buying things and Dad carving a leg of lamb, every 5 minutes?

I remember it being a rather chilly time of year where nobody quite knew what to do with themselves. Perhaps its my Calvanistic background, but it was never a big deal.

I also recall Eid al Fitr as being when children ( particularly) were dressed in new outfits and family time was very important. I don't remember fireworks being a thing or Eid al Adha being of such importance.

There we are, these are my memories. If people enjoy or try to enjoy these things, good luck to them.

I struggle to believe that the announcement couldn't be made 6-12 hours earlier so people had a chance to find out about the lockdown. I bet there were many who found out the next day because they'd gone to bed by 10:30pm.

The comments about a lack of resilience in op and her dd is unfair. I bet that this is the last in a long line of stuff missed and it is unhealthy to bottle your feelings anyway. I hope that you are feeling a little better today. Lots of people have shaky mental health at the moment so telling them to shut up and get on with things is very unreasonable. If it were that easy we wouldn't have mental hospitals and large numbers of adults on medication for mental health issues. I'm obviously not suggesting that one day of disappointment = mental health issues btw. For all we know she needed the rest of the day to stew and is fine today

It's surprising how many posts from people who missed Easter couldn't offer some positive words to OP - even sympathy that an important religious event couldn't be celebrated this year wouldn't have gone amiss. Unfortunately I'm an atheist so I can't really offer the sage words but there are some kind posts on this thread so focus on them. I've seen more sympathy offered to people who had a spider in their kitchen

@cyclingmad

Hahah my change style is pull your socks up .....whereas you all ignore the FACTS that there have been plenty of articles and messages saying as we come out of lockdown be aware if cases rise we will impose local lockdown...did you miss all fhat? Did u miss seeing and hearing what happened in Leicester? Did it not then occur to you it could happen to your area?

Dis you miss the entire week of news saying cases rising in all these areas and there is talk of lockdown restrictions coming? Did you miss those too?

I dont even have or use twitter yet I heard about the lockdown on the main news the moment it was decided so you can throw your comment about it only being on twitter in the bin thats rubbish.

You all focus on the fact its eid, missing the point that people in those areas flouting the rules and cases increased....why have other parts of the country not been locked down? Oh that's right cos they are adding by the rules in the majority.

I have emparhy when this all started in March sure it was a shock I got the anger, we are 5 months into this now we had weeks pre easing of lockdown of being told again and again local lockdowns will happen and will happen fast to addreas rapidly changing circumstances.

In chnage you have a 90 day roadmap we,ve had 5 months!!!! If you as an individual are refusing to listeb and acknowledge all the information being given to you and accept that people flouting rules is gonna be the reason for increase cases and therefore increase risk of lockdown then god help you really.

How many times do you need to be rold, keep your distance you can only have x household together, do not hug etc.

Can you say that any more simply? Or differently?

Yeah i for one feel sorrt for people living in thise areas who having their life restricted because of all the idiots who redused to abide...now they will have weeks of this which could have been avoided.

But ya know lets just ignore all those facts and have a go at the government who wouldn't have to do it if people weren't so stupid 🤷

So if u choose to ignore that there has plenty of talk in the media about cases increasing in those areas and potential lockdown coming before lockdown announced then yeah your a bit silly for suddenly being shocked and upset..

Did you ignore that we got told we wouldn't go into local lockdown and yet here we are?

@IrmaFayLear

Pp makes excellent point that obviously cases were going up alarmingly to necessitate fast lockdown, ^therefore some people had been behaving without caution in those areas for a while beforehand”.

So those disappointed about their plans being spoiled should look at their friends and neighbours who have been “Covidiots” and blame them. Eid celebrations could have taken place in a modest way if social distancing had been observed properly.

Alarmingly is not the word I'd use to describe the rise in our area.

Clearly Matt Hancock did speak to the BBC at some point on Thursday evening as he says, "from midnight tonight" in this clip;

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53602362

Andy Burnham (Mayor of Greater Manchester) said on LBC earlier today that if he was presented with the same data on Christmas Eve he would make exactly the same decision in supporting the government's restrictions.

I think randomer has an issue with people doing something if they don't do it/believe it themselves. The idea that Easter was invented by Asda is the biggest laugh I've had in a long time. Some posters on here are just being obtuse with a dash of casual racism thrown in for good measure and the lack of compassion from some posters is appalling. Why can't we just accept that cancelling 2 hours before a big celebration is shit timing. Why all this competitive whatabouttery? Eid Mubarak OP

@clarinova exactly but you know people love to ignore facts like this

Others on here have a go at me about my lack of empathy....

Where in those areas were peoples empatht for their fellow community as they went about breaking rules and causing the increase that led to the lockdown...naff all empathy for your fellow neighbours or community thats what.

Why can't we just accept that cancelling 2 hours before a big celebration is shit timing

This

I appreciate that christmas may need to be ‘cancelled’ this year or really low key, but i quite understand the annoyance that would be caused finding out at 10pm on Christmas eve

Where is the data to show categorically that gathering in private homes has been the cause In the rise of cases? We have just reopened pubs, bars, restaurants and workplaces. More people are using public transport. How are we so sure this isn't the cause of the rise in cases. Or schools being open more wildly in July? Or more people going back to work and being tested? Or more testing available more widely?

I have risk assessed my choices through this pandemic. I started out isolating and washing shopping and then moved to seeing close friends and family whilst observing careful hygiene. And being in a support bubble with my BF. I have been to a couple of pubs and sat outside. In resent the intrusion into my private life and home and the lack of being able to risk assess for myself and my family whilst there is a lack of transparent evidence and the activities I see as much more risky remain open and 'allowed'.

And the lack of empathy on this thread is awful. Whether it's Eid or Christmas or Eater or a wedding or a birthday celebration. The OP and her family were looking forward to it and it was taken away from them with no notice.

Everything Notcoolmum said.

It is dusk in that BBC shot of Hancock, so has to be post 9pm. My point remains that announcements of this magnitude and impact, irrespective of the Govt previously stating that lockdowns would be tweaked, should be communicated appropriately.

I simply do not believe they could not have made this announcement at 6pm, and that there was some other reason for not doing so.

Jeez, some people on this thread are proper dicks aren’t they?!

I’m sorry your celebration has been ruined at such short notice. The way it’s been handled is disgraceful.

It's sad and it's hard but don't you want your family to be safe.

I'm sure she does @ChardonnaysPetDragon. However to announce right before a EID is massively unfair. They must have known this was all imminent again. I'll give them a bit of credit and assume they're not actuary stupid. Yes we missed out on Easter. However that was a done deal we knew that in advance.

I genuinely hope I never ever hire you on the basis of your CV as a ‘change’ manager, cyclingmad. You give us a bad name. There is enormous evidence to show how people absorb information and new processes. Ignoring it because they ‘should’ know better is plain stupid. And a change map is not ‘90 days’. It can last years, or a week, entirely depending on the complexity of the change. We are changing people’s whole ways of life. It’s as profound as it comes, and it’s hundreds of small adjustments. The Government’s inconsistent and badly communicated approach isn’t helping at all.

I'm nof ignoring the evidence but like I said messages has been clear keep your distance do you think if people had kept this distance they would have these restrictions right now? How would you have improved that simple message and got people to listen to that? Do tell id love to hear your amazing change management techniques

Yes chnage is complex yes it can take longer but its been pretty clear messgae there is a pandemic and it spreads by close contact therefore keep your distance.....do you think that 5 months of the same message is not enough for people to understand that???

Oh so much in your post.

First of course, it hasn’t been the same message for five months at all, has it? It’s been a succession of slogans, with a confusing mix of law and guidance, applied at random.

You’ll know that communication is about far more than words. It’s about symbols and actions. It’s about what you tell to whom and when. It’s about clarity.

The Government’s approach has been a total dog’s dinner and has failed on pretty much all fronts.

I can recommend some great reading on communication in change if you’re keen to learn? Presumably some will be familiar from your training but never hurts to have a reminder I find. What aspects would you be most interested in?

Nothing is fair these days, Awwlookatmybabyspider. I'm not sure why so many posters complain about fairness in relation to a virus.

It's not fair when millions lose their jobs, it's not fair that we cannot see my family because they live overseas, it's not fair that people couldn't get career treatment for months. It's not fair that we have to wear masks or that millions of children have their education ruined.

The celebrations were cancelled because obviously some people in the areas affected weren't sticking to the rules and the cases went up, so if you are looking for something that's not fair, then why don't you look at that?

Also, would it be fair on the rest of us if cases kept going up and spreading because of celebrations?

I'm going on holiday tomorrow, but I am aware that I might have to come home earlier or that the rules might change and I will have to quarantine when I'm back and I won't be complaining about it being unfair.

That was the deal, we were told that things might have to get stricter. It's not exactly a surprise when it happened.

Op asked aibu and I've said what I think in response to her asking, you don't have to like it but thats what's so great about people having different outlooks on life and differenf opinions. I don't like your responses but I wouldnt take what you think personally and auto assume your crap at your job or a bad representation of your profession.

End of the day I'm not the one blaming governments without first acknowledging that my own community is at fault for the rising cases in the first place.

I’m afraid someone saying they work in change and then displaying such lack of knowledge of human nature, communication and the change process offends me professionally. I don’t care what your personal opinion is but I hope you manage to hide it at work. You only appear to have a very shallow grasp of what change management is.