To be majorly pissed off at new lockdown rules?

[mediciempire]

Teen DD has been looking forward to Eid for weeks. She has desperately been waiting to see the rest of her family and now we've been absolutely screwed over. She cried for most of the morning on and off and I'm just so annoyed that she's entering this state of absolute desolation again because she wasn't given a chance to prepare for Eid not being on. She was okay the last time if not very bored because she knew what was happening but this time she's just absolutely gutted. AIBU to be so angry? I just feel like it's ruined our day and I've wasted a whole load of money that I won't get back on food.

Eid Mubarak OP, to you and your family. It's shit that you can't celebrate together, and unbelievable that people can't just acknowledge that.

I went to one last week for the first time

Yeah and I know two muslim families who sent their children to mosque throughout the entire lockdown period. I, however, don't come on here saying well "muslim families were a joke during lockdown and should be isolated", because I know that my experience of the situation is probably not a full picture on what is actually happening.

@YewHedge

It's really difficult OP but it has probably saved a lot of lives in the community.

Has it? Because the death rate remains low.

And you wonder why the restrictions were put in place. Plainly said here people aren't listening ...ergo stupid people 🙄

[quote cyclingmad]@sallydimebar exactly...Op would be back starting a thread on how irresponsible the government was for not locking down after one of their family members gets it.

Or OP will be back declaring how pussed off she is if she lost her job or someone in her family did because of covid

Or she will be back complaining about schools being opened up and its not safe to send her child who isn't mentally prepared for what itll be like at school

Despite all the news and messages going on for months...she will still complain[/quote]
Op still might lose her job regardless of new restrictions. If you think this is the key to stopping redundancy you're out of your mind.

And you know what, were allowed to complain. This an utterly shit, depressing, horrific situation. It's not fucking normal and it never will be.

Some of us don't want to accept this as our life now, we want to complain.

I don't think this is the thread for you somehow.

@cyclingmad

And you wonder why the restrictions were put in place. Plainly said here people aren't listening ...ergo stupid people 🙄

Oh yes those stupid people wanting to pay their respects to the dead

So so stupid to want to do something you would ordinarily do, which might affect you very negatively if you don't do it.

It's ok Boris, we've not got Corona but half of us are clinically depressed or anxious now. How ya gonna deal with that? Oh... You're not? Right.

@TrustTheGeneGenie would love you to share the research that shows 50% of the population are clinically depressed?

I think a lot of posters are missing the point here. It's about the absolute fucking uselessness of the government "communication strategy". When they stopped the daily briefings they did say that major announcements would be made by means of a briefing. Well, putting 4.5 million people into these measures seems pretty major to me. So the briefing was... a tweet at 22:30. For those who think that's ok and adequate - have a bloody word with yourselves.

And yes, the signs were there that transmission rates and new infections were increasing. But looking at the guidelines the govt issues, they've missed out a step and gone right into extra harsh measures. Anyone criticising Muslims for having their celebrations anyway - meh. Again the tedious comparison to Christmas but i don't think that would have been any different.

This.

[quote Jarli]@TrustTheGeneGenie would love you to share the research that shows 50% of the population are clinically depressed?[/quote]
You'll have to wait until after the pandemic when they start researching the consequences of this shite, you know, if they ever do because MH isn't important.

It's not hard to see the stark possibility. Read through some threads on here, talk to your family and friends. Many people are suffering.

@trustthegenegenie

Why are you bringing redundancies into it, I'm not. Millions are at risk of losing their jobs.

I said that because OP has made it lear they will just complian and moan no matter what. Yeah fine be that person who doesn't accept chnage and stay in your misery but don't come and complain about the governmenf or blame other things because you refuse to accept the current situation or refuse to accept change

Then again its people like this who find themselves miserable more and if u refuse to accept the situation it makes your life harder. Same like people redusibg to think they could lose their job...I've been preparing since March that it might happen to me, saving as much as I can, brushed up my cv and linkedin so I'm ready and keeping eye on job market. So if it does happen sure it'll hit hard but I know I've prepared as much as I can so it'll take some stress off.

Its called being practical and prepared and managing your mental health

[quote cyclingmad]@trustthegenegenie

Why are you bringing redundancies into it, I'm not. Millions are at risk of losing their jobs.

I said that because OP has made it lear they will just complian and moan no matter what. Yeah fine be that person who doesn't accept chnage and stay in your misery but don't come and complain about the governmenf or blame other things because you refuse to accept the current situation or refuse to accept change

Then again its people like this who find themselves miserable more and if u refuse to accept the situation it makes your life harder. Same like people redusibg to think they could lose their job...I've been preparing since March that it might happen to me, saving as much as I can, brushed up my cv and linkedin so I'm ready and keeping eye on job market. So if it does happen sure it'll hit hard but I know I've prepared as much as I can so it'll take some stress off.

Its called being practical and prepared and managing your mental health[/quote]
Erm... You did saying op would come back pissed off if she lost her job, as if abiding by restrictions would prevent that?

Op can moan as much as she wants. You're not in charge.

Ooh bully for you aren't you miss perfect? I almost got made redundant and found another job before I did so don't preach to me about it. I don't need your faux advice.

I have been both practical and prepared. I'll let you into a little secret, mental health isn't based on practicality or preparedness. There's a million and one things that can set off a mental health condition. Some are to do with your life, the circumstances you find yourself in and some are genetic etc so no matter what you do they're lurking in the background.

If all it took was "managing" your mental health nobody would need help, treatment, therapy.

You're making yourself look particularly ignorant.

Eid Mubarak!!

Timing was shocking and so badly communicated

Especially when govt is pretty much emotionally blackmailing people to go out and mingle with strangers from Monday at restaurants Fi or the economy

And did nothing to stop people getting together on beaches and pubs this weekend 😩 You should have celebrated on a beach OP

@TrustTheGeneGenie There's already research going into the mental health effects of this on populations (I know, because I involved in it).

But I can assure that 50% of the population has not been diagnosed with clinical depression - stop the scaremongering please.

Yeah cos you saying you wanting to sit and not accept the situation and be miserable is really good for your mental health lol 😆

I'm not perfect but I'm not the one coming on a forum writing threads complaining and ranting like a child that restrictions are in place and my child is distraught and its not fair and its the government fault...

What ibsay might be harsh to others but leaat I'm enjoying my life within the restrictions and not having a distraught child to deal with cos I didn't manage expectations properly.

Glad to hear you found a new job.

@cyclingmad

Yeah cos you saying you wanting to sit and not accept the situation and be miserable is really good for your mental health lol 😆

I'm not perfect but I'm not the one coming on a forum writing threads complaining and ranting like a child that restrictions are in place and my child is distraught and its not fair and its the government fault...

What ibsay might be harsh to others but leaat I'm enjoying my life within the restrictions and not having a distraught child to deal with cos I didn't manage expectations properly.

Glad to hear you found a new job.

Accepting that a miserable situation is your life now isn't healthy either?

How can you manage expectations when you can't reasonable expect these decisions to be made?

Where I am we were told we wouldn't go into local lockdown and then we did?

[quote Jarli]@TrustTheGeneGenie There's already research going into the mental health effects of this on populations (I know, because I involved in it).

But I can assure that 50% of the population has not been diagnosed with clinical depression - stop the scaremongering please.[/quote]
Yeah that's not what I said is it?

thats the difference,I don't see it as a miserable situation in the first place. It was perhaps tougher and abit miserable when it was much stricter and u could only go out once a day, then again I love cycling so I quite enjoyed the empty roads.

You can still meet people in other places just not in your house and no more than restrictions allow, you can now go to the gym, you can visit places, you can go to shops, get your hair done etc. Thats hardly miserable.

It’s shit op
It really is. The notice and timing, completely crap.

Life is what it is at the moment and we need to look after ourselves and remember our actions have far reaching consequences.

@cyclingmad

thats the difference,I don't see it as a miserable situation in the first place. It was perhaps tougher and abit miserable when it was much stricter and u could only go out once a day, then again I love cycling so I quite enjoyed the empty roads.

You can still meet people in other places just not in your house and no more than restrictions allow, you can now go to the gym, you can visit places, you can go to shops, get your hair done etc. Thats hardly miserable.

Again. Bully for you. Not everyone is like you or wants to be like you.

@cyclingmad

I’m a head of change and if any of my change managers displayed the lack of empathy and emotional intelligence you are exhibiting, I’d be horrified.

The OP has made short and dignified posts saying how upset she is to see her daughter disappointed. She hasn’t ranted. That’s in your mind.

Let’s be professional. Change management teaches us that people respond best to targeted specific communications. Not general vague possible futures. So ‘anywhere in the country could go into lockdown at any point at a hard to pinpoint moment’ is NOT going to mentally prepare people. In fact, living your life thinking that the following day could see lockdown return would be a recipe for mental ill health. Instead here, if the Government felt the need to do what they did, they should have done it clearly, via better media, and acknowledged the impact it would have on those poised to celebrate Eid. They could have softened the impact by explaining safe ways to celebrate Eid.

Change management is entirely centred around the fact that people are often shocked by it, struggle to process it, are angry about. Do you remember theories on how to mitigate that reaction? They are ALL based on the need to let people voice that, to express their unhappiness, in order to move through the change cycle. Honour the past, as William Bridges so wisely said. Talk about the importance of Eid to our Muslim population.

We were all gutted at missing Holy Week and Easter.
Let’s not turn this year not a sectarian thing

Says the first poster in the thread to turn it into a sectarian thing.

PotholeParadise was spot on. I can't think of a similar major cultural/religious family occasion cancelled with two hours notice and then on twitter ffs.

And I managed to press send too soon.

@mediciempire I hope your family managed to celebrate in some way, and that you are enjoying delicious leftovers. Belated Eid Mubarak to you.

I did want to say that as an irreligious type brought up in the absence of religious belief, I am laughing at the idea that Easter as a family celebration was invented by Asda. I do think that the amount of ‘stuff’ has wound up over the last few years - the sheer quantity of commercial goods available, number of egg hunts/Easter related stuff etc. But the core principle of the event as a bank holiday and family gathering hasn’t changed.

Eid Mubarak, OP and to your DD.

The short notice was really fairly shoddy, I'm sorry it's had a big impact on your family

God, so many people are embarrassingly disingenuous. As if, should Handjob announce via Twitter at 10:30pm on Christmas Eve, no one could get together at home but those with restaurant bookings still could, there wouldn't be absolute uproar. Of course there would and people would refuse to comply. There abolitely would be a ton of food waste, lots of financial loss and more to the point, alt of emotional distress.

Get off your fucking high horses. The OP has absolutely understandably expressed her feelings about her DDs disappointment. There is no way in the world that 'Christians' would accept the equivalent with stoicism.