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AIBU - out last night until 2am

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Ostracod · 25/07/2020 22:40

After 8 years of being at home baby rearing (DS8, DS5) I'm finally feeling like I want to cultivate a social life again. Nothing flash, just visiting friends in their homes, attending hobby workshops and events and going to pubs when they're open again properly. My husband of 12 years recently gave up his career as a musician so we can start a business together. He is at the opposite end of the sociability spectrum as he says he has worked in pubs 3 nights a week for 20 years and wants to have some time at home relaxing.

My idea of a good time is sitting having a really in depth chat with a few friends and maybe watching live music or having dinner together. I have started to do this maybe one or two nights a month as well as dog walks with friends etc during the week, totalling maybe 6 things a month without him. We work, live and parent together 24/7 other than that. We also see family and mutual friends together a couple of times a week, usually at our house.

However, my husband seems to be putting up increasing barriers to me doing this. I make dinner before I go and clear up, so all he has to do is put the kids to bed, enjoy his solo evening and go to bed. He has asked me to stay until the kids are in bed before but I firmly said no to that. He's now said he worries if I'm out late and can't sleep, to which I said I would text the address of where I am if it's a friends house, and would send a message if I'm going to be later than midnight. Because me and my friends are the sort who chat a lot, sometimes if the wine is flowing it gets pretty late, like 2.30am. I always text when I'm leaving. He has now said he would prefer if I chose to be considerate with the time I come home, as after midnight disrupts his sleep. He insisted it wasn't a curfew but said it's ignorant to wake someone up in the night.

Last night, I visited an old friend of more than a decade in her home. The wine flowed, the chats continued until 1am. I sent a message home saying I'd probably be another hour, his phone was off. I wasn't drunk, we shared 1 bottle between us all evening.

Upon my return home, our dog barked once. Otherwise I was really quiet and got ready outside the bedroom. He was sitting up in bed, furious, saying I'd woken him up. It was 2.15am on a Saturday morning, neither of us had anything to do this weekend. I apologised and got straight into bed. He continued to berate me, saying it was really fucking selfish of me to ruin his sleep and go against what he asked of me. It got to 4am and he was still furious, he shook me awake and called me a selfish cunt for waking him, and that going out late is a sign of a midlife crisis. He dragged the covers off me and told me to fuck off downstairs. I didn't budge and just lay there. This happened twice more until 5am when he finally passed out. The kids came in at 7 and I took them downstairs, made breakfast and kept them entertained until 11.30 when he surfaced. I made him a cup of tea and he made lunch for himself and the kids before announcing he was going out. I asked if he wanted dinner later and he said "I'll say yes then swan in at 4am", then walked out. He took the car and is still out, no message or anything. So there you have it. Extremely detailed as I don't want to skip any relevant facts. Am I selfish and entitled or is that controlling behaviour from him?

OP posts:
Mylittlepony374 · 26/07/2020 14:37

Please call the police. At the very very least someone in your family that you trust. It's hard for you to think straight now, you need outside help.

Shizzlestix · 26/07/2020 14:40

He’s a massive hypocrite, staying out til 4am ‘working’ then not allowing you the same freedom. Ask what he brings to your relationship and if it’s worth being controlled. He has no right to tell you what time to be on, he’s not your dad and you’re not 12!

The violence displayed is very worrying: I would ask for advice from the domestic violence team at your local station.

speakout · 26/07/2020 14:41

OP you are in a very dangerous situation. Not only are you being abused and assaulted your OH is manipulating you into thinking all is well.

Tappering · 26/07/2020 14:42

You wait until he's gone to the loo and then you grab the kids and your bag, get in the car and go to your family. You can report him once you are there.

The most important thing is making sure you are safe.

And his Mum has said that because she knows he's controlling.

GoGadgetGo · 26/07/2020 14:43

@Ostracod
Then he said we were finished.

Then I go out, stay out late and my marriage is over? Wtf.

I think take what he said about the marriage being finished as a time to tell him to start making plans to move out. Your marriage was over when he started dictating to you and speaking to you like a bit of dirt.
No respect at all, As well as everything else you have listed about him.
Do yourself and your kids a favour- get rid from your household.

SteelyPanther · 26/07/2020 14:45

You need to contact your family and tell them what happened.
If you don’t feel safe you should phone the police.

onalongsabbatical · 26/07/2020 14:48

I think his mum might have said that because she knows what abusive controlling behaviour is like - from his dad possibly - and she senses something or saw some signs. But how great her telling you that she'd be in your corner; and how telling too. He sounds explosive OP, take care.

YgritteSnow · 26/07/2020 14:48

I knew as well as I know my own name that we would become violent. It's over. He's going to try and snake back in though, so be aware of that. Are you close with your family? If so I would call them and tell them what has happened, right now.

J2Squared · 26/07/2020 14:51

@Ostracod my advice would be to make a note of these incidents, even if it’s just a note on your phone so he can’t see them - if this situation does escalate at least you have evidence if you need police intervention (god forbid).

Babysharkdoodoodood · 26/07/2020 14:55

So the overt violence has now started. It's time to call the police OP, get him removed. I can't remember, are you married?

Get booked into a solicitor on Monday and start picking off this leeches suckers.

Thatnameistaken · 26/07/2020 14:56

Time for the old 'ducks in a row' thing now. Get all the relevant paperwork for the business and your general life and see a good solicitor.
He's an utter arsehole x

LakieLady · 26/07/2020 15:05

Holy shit, OP, I'm so sorry things have taken this turn.

He has assaulted you. That is a police matter.

He was controlling yesterday, abusive and aggressive last night and today he is violent. His behaviour is escalating and you need to keep yourself and your children safe. He either needs to leave now, without house keys so he can't let himself in (unless you have bolts on the doors) or you need to call the police. Or you need to leave with the kids and call the police when you're somewhere safe.

You cannot risk yours, and your children's safety. Once you're safe, you can consider your next steps.

MsSquiz · 26/07/2020 15:07

Please call the police, he has just assaulted you and they will take it seriously.

This happened to my DM with my SD, they were arguing and he backed her into a corner to intimidate her (he was more than a foot taller and twice as wide!) She wet herself in fear! The police came out and took him to the station and "suggested" he stay elsewhere that night.

Call the police and then call someone you trust to stay with you or for you and the children to go to their house.

MactheRover · 26/07/2020 15:33

He hasn't been able to control you enough by being nasty, he is now trying to control you with violence and intimidation. It sounds like he was only the good guy when you did what suited him. I doubt it would be possible for you to behave the way he wants without intense resentment on your part. Even if you do what he wants you will also always live with the fear of violence. It would be hard for your relationship to come back from this without a complete change of heart on his part (plus an abject and sincere apology). However, violent controlling men don't usually change so I think you are at a crossroads. Very sorry this is happening to you.Flowers

pictish · 26/07/2020 15:52

Awful. He’s certainly digging his heels in isn’t he? You haven’t responded the way he expected you to, by apologising and agreeing to his curfew. And neither you should...he can trot right off to fuck with that.
Now he’s upping the ante. What a bully.

I’m really sorry OP.

puguin86 · 26/07/2020 15:56

I could write your post word for word
I don't know what to say
I'm In the same boat

I go out and face the punishment

We have spoken about separating but he won't leave because he will be financially worse off

It's shit

LakieLady · 26/07/2020 16:05

@puguin86guin, please speak to Women's Aid or a solicitor. If you are being abused, there are ways in which you may be able to get him out.

ivfdreaming · 26/07/2020 16:13

I wouldn't have been happy if you swanned in after 2am either

When DH is out I don't sleep properly, half an ear waiting for the key in the door I suppose.

You should be more considerate and sleep in the spare room

He shouldn't have used the C word but don't try and make yourself out to be the victim here by having other posters label him an abuser

pictish · 26/07/2020 16:13

“He shouted that it was me being inconsiderate that was the issue, the fuck you to his needs, that he asked me to be back at a reasonable time and I ignored his wishes, and just thought I'd do what I wanted anyway.”

This just says it all. He thinks he’s in charge of you.

YgritteSnow · 26/07/2020 16:28

He shouldn't have used the C word but don't try and make yourself out to be the victim here by having other posters label him an abuser

Guess you missed the bit where he threw her off the chair she was sat on...

ivfdreaming · 26/07/2020 16:37

@YgritteSnow

Pretty sure OP said he only dragged the covers off her????

MsSquiz · 26/07/2020 16:38

@ivfdreaming try reading the full thread before victim shaming!

Twofurrycatsagain · 26/07/2020 16:40

@ivfdreaming perhaps it would help if you read all of the posts.....

YgritteSnow · 26/07/2020 16:40

He then stormed over to me and upended the chair I was sitting on, then told me to stop looking like a victim when I was shaking on the floor.

@ivfdreaming

Read the thread fgs.

octobersky19 · 26/07/2020 16:41

I wouldn't want him coming back.

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