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AIBU to not trust my gut on man I'm dating?

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StartingAgain33 · 22/07/2020 14:56

I've been dating someone for three months. He's thoughtful, intelligent, successful, wants the same things in life as me and has made it clear that he sees a future with me (as much as someone can in such a short space of time). He also has literally built my dream life and is inviting me to be a part of it. But my gut keeps telling me to run away, and my therapist says that one of my key challenges is learning to tune into and act on my gut. I'm obsessing and would love your thoughts.

I worry I'm focusing on the negatives too much. I'm about to be 36, keen to have children and tired of being in a dating pool with guys that either don't have their shit together and so by default aren't ready for kids, or who are emotionally avoidant and not willing to put their cards on the table. This guy is neither of those things, and is up for doing the work of a real relationship. So I worry this is just my commitment issues - and potentially anxiety at having met someone so amazing - coming to the fore. What would you think?

Good things:

  • He is open about wanting to settle down, feeling ready for children (a priority for me), about having done the necessary work to get to this point with a therapist (he went to boarding school from a young age and was very starved of love - so had a very avoidant dating pattern). He had one 18 month relationship which ended last year which he said went a long way to healing some of his commitment issues. However, he never loved her and they broke it off as they both felt (I think it was more that he felt) that what they had wasn't 'enough'. This was after they had moved in together to test the relationship (I kind of think you should know if you love someone before making that move, and wonder how much anxiety she was hiding?)
  • He is very successful and leads a really great life. He's open and generous with this life - introducing me to friends and family, making fun trips happen all the time
  • His future vision is the same as mine to an uncanny degree
  • He's not afraid to challenge me and be honest about things, something which I find difficult (I have an anxious attachment pattern)
  • Seems to have a realistic view of what to expect from relationships
  • He's very good at going for what he wants and making things happen, which I find attractive
  • Has great, very close long-term friendships - shows he is capable of longer term intimacy
  • Is very up for 'doing the work' in a relationship
  • Is kind when I open up to him about difficulties, and makes an effort to be there for me
  • Is very consistent with communication, very much leading on this aspect of our relationship

Bad things:

  • He has a very avoidant past (41 years old, has had one relationship in the past 20 or so years and many flings), and I think may have difficulty in general connecting to people. Even though I know this, I keep blame myself for what I feel is a lack of connection in our interactions (I'm not sure he feels this too, although I'm thinking about asking him as it's driving me crazy - like an elephant in the room)
  • I just have a terrible gut feeling a lot of the time. When I'm with him, there's a sort of stilted atmosphere (I feel) and I don't feel able to relax. We hardly laugh. He's quiet quite a lot. He's been honest that he has abandonment issues and that he is hypervigilant to signs of rejection, which makes him quiet, so I've tried to have patience with it but I also feel hypervigilant around him. I've tried to spend lots of time with him to get over this and it's still there most of the time
  • Talks about relationships as 'work' a lot - feels a little joyless
  • Despite talking quite a lot about money / having lots of investments and also enough savings to never have to work again, he has let me somehow do all of the grocery shopping for every visit we've had. Majority of these have been me going to his city, which is nicer to hang out in as it's close to the countryside, so I'm spending money on train tickets AND about £80 at least every single time. This is really stacking up. In comparison, he knows that at 35 I'm still saving for a housing deposit and am going through an expensive egg freezing process. He is extremely frugal in general. The one time he paid of out food on a visit (because I lost my bank card) he asked me to settle up with him afterwards. He probably doesn't realise how much I've spent, as I've not communicated this and frankly find it awkward and quite rude that he wouldn't enquire himself or just say 'I'll pay for groceries next time'. Of all the things, strangely, this one makes me most angry and uncomfortable. I guess because we're from very different social classes and I would never want to be seen as a gold digger (he knows this, we've spoken about the fact that I've always dated people from a 'higher' class than me and that I've always gone at least halves or paid for more because I don't want to be seen as with them for their money)
  • I find our conversation often turns to serious subjects - trauma, how messed up someone is, work stuff - and there is little lightness. He is a thoughtful and quite serious character, I think, but I also worry this is just a chemistry thing and he'd be better with someone else (which then makes me want to fix it)
  • Because he's very open about wanting to settle down, it can sometimes make me feel like he is being spurred by that rather than wanting to be with ME. This could be my paranoia. But he doesn't often express how he actually feels about me, or why. He expresses his affection, I guess, through wanting to spend lots of time together, but even this feels a little intense / out of kilter with our level of emotional intimacy. Lockdown and living in different cities doesn't help - our dates are several days long, which I think I find a bit much
  • He's commented a few times about how I have a higher sex drive than him / enjoy it more. This makes me feel self conscious about asking for sex. When I did the one time, last week, he was too tired. We didn't have enough physical closeness in my four day visit for me to feel particularly cared for or happy. In general I find him just quite distant. Sex feels a little transactional - like he'll do the minimum to make me orgasm, then he's like 'job done' and then gets his and it's over. There isn't enough kissing or general sensuality for me. I don't feel very connected with him
  • I said I was uncomfy meeting his parents on our third ever date (it was a week long, and we'd been talking on zoom for a month before meeting, plus we actually know eachother from 13 years ago in a work context, but still). He said that was fine and they weren't coming, then the day before told me they actually were and I could 'hide in the house as they'd be in the garden and he'd just say I had lots of work to do' if I wanted. I felt intensely uncomfy with this setup so just met them anyway, but felt very awkward. He hadn't seen them all lockdown, and apparently it was just circumstantial that they visited that day, but I felt a little blindsided. I also met his sister and niece on the day, had been living with his other sister for a week and had spent the day with his best friends that week also. It all felt a little much

So - am I looking a gifthorse in the mouth? My anxiety levels are through the roof on this. For some reason I feel like I need to end it NOW even though I know there's loads of great things going for this guy. Any idea what might be going on?

OP posts:
Jojobar · 22/07/2020 18:34

My relationship is far from perfect, it looks probably better on paper than in real life. My partner is a very flawed individual, and in the past we are both guilty of being pretty shitty to each other (he more than me, but I probably would say that) we also over analyse and overthink things often. BUT I love him deeply. He makes me laugh constantly and even the worst times with him are better than good times with other people. We have so many shared values, interests and opinions.

Nothing in your post relates any enjoyment in his company, nothing about love or physical, emotional or cerebral attraction... he's a good bet for a relationship in the sense that he wants one (or thinks he does), is the right sort of age and financial position but that seems to be all he has going for him.

This isn't a good match for you OP.

MsSweary · 22/07/2020 18:38

At some point, if you try and make a life with this man, you will wake up one day and realise that all the colour and light in your world has disappeared.

You HAVE to trust your gut now; as great as his selling points seem to be, you don't feel right in his company and that has disaster written all over it. If I was in your position I wouldn't even have the conversation with him, not 3 months in. I'd just say it wasn't working out and end it on as pleasant terms as possible.

dublingirl66 · 22/07/2020 18:39

Just to add

You sound clever smart and lovely
A real catch

He is a 💩

No other way about this

Kick this loser to the gutter and maybe when you do it tell him to take his right fist out of his pocket now and again 🤬🤬🤬🤬

Lumene · 22/07/2020 18:39

YANBU. Listen to your gut.

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 22/07/2020 18:41

@DontDribbleOnTheCarpet

This isn't making you happy, is it? End it now, and take a little while to think about where you go from here. Being a single parent would be masses better than being stuck with a man you don't feel attracted to.

Even good, sexy, decent men can get annoying sometimes. They survive because they are good, decent and sexy. This one isn't a nice man, you don't feel drawn to him and after a few months you will probably want to kill him. Save yourself some time and get out now.

I meant the relationship survives etc! I didn't mean to imply that annoying men should be culled!
Monkeymilkshake · 22/07/2020 18:42

Trust your gut. End it.

Coldspringharbour · 22/07/2020 18:42

God he sounds extremely hard work. I lost count of the red flags. To be honest a relationship should never be hard work. I’ve been married over 20: years and it’s never been hard work. For him to be thinking of a relationship as work is a massive red flag. He should be blowing your mind in every sense at this stage in a relationship. He should be equally as enamoured with you. It sounds like you have no emotional connection with each other.
Financially it sounds like he’s feeding you an absolute load of bull. You really have no idea of his financial situation, despite what he’s telling you.
I would honestly run for the hills, change your number and don’t have anything to do with him.

Abitofalark · 22/07/2020 18:48

I only know of him what you have written and obviously you know him but I recall your opening description of him as intelligent and thoughtful etc. That doesn't add up with someone who has lots of money but won't buy food for your visits and even asks you to settle up after one time he had to shell out. That is unusual. Even a poor person would want to buy something in for someone they've invited but this is a wealthy man in a relationship claiming to see a future with you. I wouldn't call that normal behaviour. Or explicable. That's why I wonder if it is real and I am not reassured by talk of starting businesses and investors etc. Sometimes talk is just that.

Caselgarcia · 22/07/2020 18:51

Sounds joyless and hardwork. Just imagine how grim life would be if you had children.
You should be having much more fun than this.

UniversalAunt · 22/07/2020 18:52

Skimmed through OP’s comments.
Two things stand out: he doesn’t make you laugh & he’s a bit ‘pointy’ about your background.

Your gut is telling you load & clear...no.

LizzieVereker · 22/07/2020 18:54

Every extra day you spend with this guy is a day when you will not have the chance to meet someone who really ticks your boxes.

This.

theendoftheworldasweknowit · 22/07/2020 18:55

@StartingAgain33 To be blunt, your posts read as if you know he's not the one for you, but because dating is so shit and you feel your biological clock ticking, you're desperately hoping you can just make do with this one. That's not a basis for a relationship, let alone a future life partner.

xxKatie9806xx · 22/07/2020 18:55

Not saying this in a horrible way but sounds like you might be trying to convince yourself that this could be the person for you because at 36 you’re keen to settle down and he ticks lots of boxes in terms of lifestyle/wanting kids etc. But I think your sub conscious knows it’s not right and that’s why there’s this uneasy feeling.
It sounds like a lot of work OP, and you’re still in the honeymoon stage where it shouldn’t be. My advice would be to end it as the longer you spend with the wrong man, the longer it will take to find the right one. Good luck x

shartsi · 22/07/2020 18:57

No way, he is tight. I can't forgive that.

COPPER3 · 22/07/2020 18:58

GUT INSTINCT....listen to it! It is why we have our intuition and feelings! A BIG FAT NO, NO, NO is this the right man for you!

  1. the uncomfortable feeling you have about him.
  2. his absolute tightness. How rude and ignorant of him!
  3. Zero humour...boring!
  4. Incompatible sex drive.. Darling, dump him and value and trust yourself in finding your Mr RIGHT!
MrsTWH · 22/07/2020 19:04

Absolutely trust your gut instincts, OP! He is not the man for you. And your subsequent posts make him sound even worse. Run like the wind!!

Claliscool · 22/07/2020 19:06

Ditch this one pronto.

BobFleming · 22/07/2020 19:08

I can understand you want it to be a good fit, but don't settle because your clock is ticking.

You should be with some you can be completely yourself with, someone who fancies the pants of you and makes you laugh all the time.

He sounds a bit dull and he's tight! This alone would be the death knell for me.

welldonesquirrels · 22/07/2020 19:09

Usually when people ask stuff like this, it's because they deep down want to end it and are just kind of waiting for someone else to give them permission.

It's ok. This isn't a marriage. You're just dating. The only "good reason" you need to end this relationship is the fact that you're not comfortable and you clearly don't want to be in it.

Just because someone is what you think you "should" want, doesn't mean they'll make you happy.

Love just isn't a series of tick boxes. It's definitely good to have an idea of what you want in a partner and these things are important but ultimately there is no list where, if enough items are checked off, it equals happiness. If you don't click, you don't click.

cakeandchampagne · 22/07/2020 19:10

End it! Trust your gut!

Bemorechicken · 22/07/2020 19:13

Run focus on yourself. Please run.

you are not from the "gutter", you do not need a partner to "challenge" you -you can get work or further learning to do that etc.

If you want explore having a baby on your own but not with someone like this.

Whathewhatnow · 22/07/2020 19:17

I think he sounds like he potentially has a cluster B personality disorder.
Run far away.

Yorkiee · 22/07/2020 19:17

"Thoughtful" and he makes you pay for everything..

Amiable · 22/07/2020 19:18

Sounds like he wants/needs a therapist, not a partner.

Trust your gut. End it now.

TeamLannister · 22/07/2020 19:18

Run like fuck.

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