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Neighbours ‘can’t hear baby’

251 replies

jellyneilly · 19/07/2020 09:49

Not an AIBU but really need some advice!

We live on a new build estate with terraces and the soundproofing is amazing. Can only hear my neighbours when they’re in the garden/out front, or when their children scream and run up and down the stairs. Can hear tantrums are happening but not what’s being said iygwim. DH went to get a package off them the other day and they had a chit chat. The wife said she was concerned because she never hears our baby cry. Oh trust me she has a decent set of lungs on her as she’s growing 3 months ahead of her actual age (born weighing 10 pounds and is already in 6-9 month clothes at 3 months). She doesn’t get upset often but when she does it’s either colic or teething now which has already started. I’d say she cries a normal amount and we’re very responsive to her. We have a 5 year old so I feel we’re ‘seasoned’ parents. She’s also a very happy baby, smiles and giggles constantly when she’s awake and sleeps like a dream at night. She’s developed in a way that she doesn’t need to cry when she wants something I.e. milk as she’s just started shouting at us. It’s so cute, she sounds like she’s trying to say ‘hungy’ when she wants milk because I always ask her ‘are you hungry’ so she copies me. The midwives at the hospital noted that I was very alert and independent when on the ward. The neighbour joked that we must ‘gag her’ or something. Well no, it just means we’re attentive parents I think! I don’t believe that they don’t hear her at all either as I can hear them talking with their friends at normal level in their garden with my windows shut so they will definitely her hear scream. Maybe they need their hearing tested?

My husband said she seemed genuinely concerned and now I’m worried she’ll report us to social services. Would they even come out for ‘baby doesn’t cry enough’? It just seems ridiculous to me. We have had the health visitor come round plenty so it’s obvious that our baby isn’t in any danger otherwise the HV would have seen. Its like you can’t please some people! I joked that next time DD’s having a screaming fit we should take her next door and let the neighbours deal with itGrin I feel they’re the type of people who would also complain if she cried a lot. I presume she’s just taking from her own experience and is shocked at how content our baby is as her boys do seem like a handful.

What can I say to neighbour to quash these needless concerns before she causes us stress by reporting us to authorities? Record her for the day and show it to them? I have no idea

OP posts:
QueenCT · 19/07/2020 11:41

@Sharkerr I got "very independent and focused" after my spinal op. What he actually meant was I got up and walking an hour after a 5hr op, scoffed a load of food and then asked to go home. He said (to my face) I was wilful, stubborn, needed tying down and would probably have a great recovery (he was right) Grin

Ghostoast · 19/07/2020 11:44

As a "seasoned parent", in my experience, the ones who are smug about being attentive tend to make children who can't handle not having their needs met immediately.

namesnames · 19/07/2020 11:45

OP, you're overthinking one comment.

Just get on with enjoying your baby.

ahola · 19/07/2020 11:46

I think something isn't quite right here, and I do hope OP that you are seeing your HV or midwife still regularly?
During the pandemic, if newborns were ill the babies were kept in but mums sent home. My NDN had a baby 3 mo ago, and he had to be kept in and she had to leave him there! I am wondering if they needed to keep an eye on you too?
We honestly never hear him- our walls are v thick- unless she takes him outside and our windows are open.

Please don't think about your neighbour's comments any more, and enjoy your lovely baby.

Grapewrath · 19/07/2020 11:49

You sound very anxious, in fact the opposite of a ‘seasoned’ and confident mother of two.
Imo your neighbours are the least of your worries

unlikelytobe · 19/07/2020 11:50

gagging a defenceless baby

I really think your NDN has a nice line in deadpan humour but if you want to over-react to this (in your eyes) inappropriate comment then knock yourself out and I don't mean that literally.

LonginesPrime · 19/07/2020 11:51

I am fairly sure than when my neighbours said “does that baby ever cry, we can’t hear a thing!” they meant “we can absolutely hear your howling colicky baby but we are nice and don’t want to make you feel bad about your baby crying.”

Yes, when my NDNs ask if their dogs are too loud, I always say "oh, not at all, don't be silly!" when I really mean "of course they bloody are, they're the soundtrack to my life!".

But it's not like dogs, or babies, have a volume control so there's no point in saying anything - it is what it is, and that's terraced housing for you.

user1471481356 · 19/07/2020 11:58

Alert and independent in medical notes means you’re alert, as in you’re conscious, responding, alert. And independent literally means you’re independent, walking, taking care of yourself. It has nothing to do with being an amazing parent 🤦🏻‍♀️

2155User · 19/07/2020 11:58

Not all babies who cry are the result of inattentive parents.

You say you're a seasoned parent and yet you've got worked up about this?

Give over

Hobnobswantshernameback · 19/07/2020 12:00

None of mine were independent newborns
Ffs I had to feed them, change their nappies, carry them around, dress them
They are such a disappointment

Hardbackwriter · 19/07/2020 12:11

@Hobnobswantshernameback

None of mine were independent newborns Ffs I had to feed them, change their nappies, carry them around, dress them They are such a disappointment
Grin mine too, even though - get this - he was massive.
PickwickThePlockingDodo · 19/07/2020 12:19

Can we all be a bit nicer please? If OP is suffering from anxiety or PND I don't think some of these responses will help.

OP it sounds like your neighbour was joking to your DH and he's got the wrong end of the stick or is winding you up on purpose.
Please chill out, no one is going to call SS and even if they do they will see your baby is perfectly fine.

Sharkerr · 19/07/2020 12:22

I can’t believe the level of misunderstanding and scaremongering re social services across mumsnet.

WorraLiberty · 19/07/2020 12:24

Send your baby round to have a chat with the neighbours, OP.

ConcreteUnderpants · 19/07/2020 12:27

Is this just a smug boast about how ‘seasoned’ and attentive you are compared to your neighbours?
Of course they can hear the crying, they are just being polite as other posters have said.

thecatsthecats · 19/07/2020 12:34

If I think someone's baby is ugly I tend to go for "alert" as a compliment!

(I never think I can pull off "cute" as a lie, but alert always makes parents look happy even if the kid is just sitting there like a potato)

Thereareliterallynonamesleft · 19/07/2020 12:34

Once when I had an ultrasound I was complimented on my ‘beautiful left ovary’, I was well chuffed! Grin

Thereareliterallynonamesleft · 19/07/2020 12:36

I’ve also been complimented on my lovely clear urine samples and how well hydrated I am Grin

ThousandsAreSailing · 19/07/2020 12:39

When I was having fertility treatment I was told my mucus was perfect 👌 😇

DeeTractor · 19/07/2020 12:40

"Mumsnet: the home of ultimate reaching! So because my baby is developing ahead of her age and my neighbours made an inappropriate comment about gagging a defenceless baby I’m suddenly mentally unwell? Crazy!"

Oh the irony.

InsideOfEmptiness · 19/07/2020 12:41

@Thereareliterallynonamesleft

Once when I had an ultrasound I was complimented on my ‘beautiful left ovary’, I was well chuffed! Grin
Grin Once, during a smear, the nurse told me that I had a lovely cervix. Made my day, it did.
Todaywewilldobetter · 19/07/2020 12:44

Batshit

RoseGoldEagle · 19/07/2020 12:45

You deal with it by completely ignoring it. If she genuinely has concerns that your baby is too quiet and really meant it when she asked your DH about gagging her- then she’s a bit crazy. Responding to it/trying to record your DD or do something to prove her wrong is a bit weird to be honest, it makes it look like you have something to hide (which I don’t at all think you do from your posts- I just think it’s a bit of a weird response to a crazy comment to take it so seriously.). Social services are not going to be worried about a report of a baby who doesn’t cry enough- if for any reason they came round (they won’t), you would just be calm and rational and answer their questions and they’d see your DD and that would be that.

Witchend · 19/07/2020 12:46

I thought it was neglected babies that stop crying because their needs aren't met, so they see no point in crying and stop trying to communicate.

The first time Nathan Fox, PhD, stepped into a Romanian orphanage, he was struck by the silence. "The most remarkable thing about the infant room was how quiet it was, probably because the infants had learned that their cries were not responded to," says Fox, who directs the Child Development Laboratory at the University of Maryland.

So maybe the OP should be worried if the neighbour genuinely isn't hearing the baby because they may be thinking the baby's being neglected.
Or more likely they're being polite and saying they can't hear as everyone else does because they've been through the crying themselves.

Ellie56 · 19/07/2020 12:46

"Alert and independent in medical notes means you’re alert, as in you’re conscious, responding, alert. And independent literally means you’re independent, walking, taking care of yourself."

It has nothing to do with being an amazing parent Grin Grin