To feel annoyed at school motto

[WeasleyWoman]

DS's primary school is CofE state mainstream. Its official motto is love hope forgiveness or similar which is great but on all letters they now say. Learning for Life: Ready to take our place in God's World.
I guess this shouldn't matter but it pisses me off. Why is it his world? Why not our world? The children's world? It might as well say Learning for life: ready to bow to the patriarchy and conform.
Aibu

stop referring to an act of daily collective worship. It stopped being that about 20 years ago

Why do the government still refer to it as "collective worship" then?

Why send him to a religious school? What did you expect?!

This argument always just goes round and round in circles though. It's pointless.

This is just a small thing you have to accept when you enrol in a CoeE school.

@Beautiful3

Why send him to a religious school? What did you expect?!

FFS. Read the thread!

Just going off piste here but what happens if your catchment school is C if E and you don't want a religious education? Is that the only place you get guaranteed? If so you have my sympathies OP. (Our nearest local schools are not religious so I've never thought about this but I would definitely not have wanted DC to attend a faith school).

It's a religious school. CofE believe that their god created the world and has male pronouns. If you're atheist or non-CofE, feel free to secularly rephrase it as "the world" whenever you personally use the motto. But, it's unreasonable to expect the school to rephrase it.

Our local school’s motto:

More is in me

ÝABU - you chose a religious school not surprisingly they have a religious motto.

As a couple of pps have mentioned, this is a 'suggestion' from the church itself. Dates from at least a couple of years back, but schools have other things to think about and sometimes it might take an extra helping hand or shove from an interested party for this kind of statement to make its way onto documents seen by parents. Try not to think of it as a shift in philosophy that will directly affect your DC. It almost certainly is nothing more than a box to tick for an upcoming SIAMS inspection.

Well it is God's world so I don't see the problem.

It’s a Church of England school.

I used to be on a C of E school governing body and the task of updating the motto and mission statement was tortuous beyond belief. It became nonsensical several times and we wasted far to long on a decision.

Irks me too, in honesty.

Every village around us, including ours, only has church schools.

People like to take the stance of 'if you send your kids to a church school what do you expect?!' but if you DON'T have the choice of a non-faith school it is really annoying to have all the God stuff rammed down your throat.

@pinkyyy It may be in your opinion but there are billions of people who disagree with you.

It doesn’t make them faith schools either, contrary to your first suggestion.

Spiritual and moral development, and even being taught about faith is very different to being taught from a faith perspective.

I work for a Cof E primary school. We are not only inspected by Ofsted but by our Diocese and Faith Committee to ensure we uphold the values of the Christian church. It’s isn’t really the school’s decision.England isn’t secular , it’s a Christian country.

Op, you can't send your child to a religious school and then complain their motto is religious....

There are plenty of non c of e schools in my town.

It's a Church if England school. Clue in the word Church. You describe it as a 'state' school but I don't even know what that means nowadays when the vast majority of schools are academies. There will be strong links between the school and the Church. As a CofE school it will also have separate inspections in addition to OFSTED which will look at things like the Christian ethos at the school .

You are not unreasonable in wanting your children to be educated in a school which does not mention God overtly in its motto but you are unreasonable in expecting this in a Church school

It's a CofE school so I don't know what else you expect. People choose faith schools because they want their children to have the ethos of that faith. Christians (and others), believe God created the world but gave it to us to live in.

Perhaps you shouldn't have chosen a C of E school ....

Poster: *So why the hell did you send your to a religious school then?!"

Multiple replies: "Lots of people don't have much choice! Their local schools are CofE"

Umpteen posters with fingers in ears "So why did you send your dc to a religious school then?!"

FFS.

A school near me has the motto ‘Serve and Obey’ - even worse, it’s a girls’ school.

If the government had to buy them all and fund them all fully... Would there be the will?

The government (ie: us) already does fund the vast majority fully - even in the tiny minority of "CofE Aided" schools we pay at least 90% of the costs and often all of them via additional grants

It's also hardly realistic to say you "own" a property and then hand all the repair costs to someone else, but the state buying the properties needn't be complicated ... just get an independent valuation , knock off the building costs the taxpayer's picked up over decades and hand over the balance
Except there probably wouldn't be any balance left, so the church would owe the state instead ... maybe we could call it a payment for all the "publicity" they've enjoyed for their cause

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