To feel annoyed at school motto

[WeasleyWoman]

DS's primary school is CofE state mainstream. Its official motto is love hope forgiveness or similar which is great but on all letters they now say. Learning for Life: Ready to take our place in God's World.
I guess this shouldn't matter but it pisses me off. Why is it his world? Why not our world? The children's world? It might as well say Learning for life: ready to bow to the patriarchy and conform.
Aibu

@serenada

Your contribution has been equally as valuable, I’m sure.

But in future, leave poor Doris alone. It’s patronising and poor taste to disparage those who sought solace in the only thing they could find that worked.

Yeah well Doris sucks dicks

So maybe that works for her too.

PS I don't know anyone named Doris

I HATE the argument that you have to choose a secular school, I chose our local school and it's not my fault it is CofE. They get state funding so can put up with letters from annoying parents (like me).

You won't get anywhere complaining, but there's not much to do at the moment so why not . I probably would have a pointless moan about it.

@WorraLiberty

Well if Doris does, then she has taken tkneeling down in quiet contemplation the wrong way.

I haven’t chosen a religious school for my DD or to work in for this reason. I wouldn’t be happy to have religion thrust upon her or me at every chance. If I had chosen a CofE school, I wouldn’t then complain that they had religion as part of their ethos and messages.

Don't send your child to a religious school and then get annoyed when they incorporate religion.

I agree with labyrinth that people don't always get to choose. Many villages have one school only and that school is a C of E ones. Although that often stems from the fact the local church set up free education for local children before the government decided to do it. The schools now get state funding but have retained their church link. If the government hasn't funded an alternative village school then it's that school or nothing.

If you send them to a faith school I don't think you can really complain about religious teachings and mottos.

[quote serenada]@WorraLiberty

Well if Doris does, then she has taken tkneeling down in quiet contemplation the wrong way.

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serenada

Doris sucks dicks

Why is it his world?
Because it’s a religious school. If you don’t like that send your child elsewhere. No one is forcing you to send your child there, they’re not even asking you to pay for it. Your kid is getting a free education and your complaining about a motto, can you get more ungrateful?

[quote serenada]@Goosefoot

So, it’s an ontological distinction?[/quote]
That's how I see it. And I'd say it's true of Christian theology generally, really.

Oh come on now, the staff will have spent a good part of an INSET day coming up with that, they'll be really fed up proud of it

@bookmum08
Although that often stems from the fact the local church set up free education for local children before the government decided to do it.

I’m glad someone acknowledges this. It’s not the fault of the church but a state issue.

The clue is in what "C of E" stands for.

HTH.

I'm an atheist. DD is an atheist. She chose a C of E secondary school. The religion was pushed more when they had a change of Head than we thought it would be from our initial visit but we knew it was a church school so sucked it up. You can't complain about a church school referencing God in its slogans.

@bookmum08 well not really though, people in that situation could home school, or move somewhere with schooling that meets their satisfaction, or, and thus may be really mind blowing, drive to the next village.

On a serious note, I'd be annoyed at the LA for the lack of non religious schools, but I wouldn't be annoyed at a religious school for their religious beliefs as that would be silly.

If I had to send my child to an Islamic school for example, I wouldn't get annoyed at "Learning for Life: Ready to take our place in Allah's World."

My annoyance would remain firmly with the local authority.

As others have pointed out without the funds to go private there is not a lot of choice involved in him going to a CofE school. It is our state funded catchment school and it not like they are preaching intolerance or anything. I am happy for him to go there. It is a good school. I just find the motto a little subservient and depressing. Why not be more hopeful? Strive for peace or hope or excellence for everyone not matter what their beliefs not just fit in and take our place.... seems a wasted opportunity

I don't understand.

You have sent your child to a Faith School but are objecting to expressions of faith?

OK then

Have you voiced any of this to the school OP?

It’s a church school. What’s the problem?

ready to bow to the patriarchy and conform
If that's what they are teaching them then you should move them.
If you're basing that on their motto alone then you don't seem to understand much about the school or the faith that you have sent your DC to be educated in.

Some of this, I think, depends on whether it admits on the basis of faith (e.g. if you applied to it, meeting a faith criteria) or if it is a CofE school you have been randomly allocated.

If the former and you have knowingly chosen a faith school, you sort of have to suck it up.

If the latter, I have much sympathy. There are very few non-faith schools near where we are. We are lucky to have found one, but they are few and far between, and I would be furious at this shit being pedalled to my children.

I get cross enough when the vicar comes in at Harvest Festival and tells the children that God created the world and provides for His people, and simultaneously collects for the local food bank where people don't have enough, without any seeming acknowledgement of the cognitive dissonance.

I work in a Church of England school. The church have asked schools to have a vision statement linked to church beliefs/the Bible and display this in the school. A new thing all CofE schools have been asked to do so don't worry that your schools suddenly taken a more religious turn!!

But as practising Christians ensuring that God has a clear and visible place in their teaching approach, will be something they want to do. And seeing it as a "wasted opportunity" could be offensive to someone who believes in God.

I don't think it's reasonable to expect a religious school to not include God in its statement. Would you expect a madrassa or a Jewish school to not mention Allah or Hashem?