To feel annoyed at school motto

[WeasleyWoman]

DS's primary school is CofE state mainstream. Its official motto is love hope forgiveness or similar which is great but on all letters they now say. Learning for Life: Ready to take our place in God's World.
I guess this shouldn't matter but it pisses me off. Why is it his world? Why not our world? The children's world? It might as well say Learning for life: ready to bow to the patriarchy and conform.
Aibu

the OP doesn't say that at all. She has a problem with the motto being depressing and sounding subservient.

Actually, Tessabelle1, I think that is exactly the OP's problem. She says in her second post:

As others have pointed out without the funds to go private there is not a lot of choice involved in him going to a CofE school.

It is to be expected that a CofE school will teach subservience to God. The problem is that the OP has no other choice of state funded education.

@AlexaShutUp "I am happy for him to go there. It is a good school. I just find the motto a little subservient and depressing. Why not be more hopeful?"
Nope, happy with the school, unhappy with the motto, as per the OP.

What tennis said! That was my experience of Church of England schooling. What you say about the motto suggests you don’t understand or don’t agree with the religious education they are getting. In your shoes I would choose another state school even if it had a lesser reputation. YANBU to be annoyed by the motto but you are if you continue to be annoyed and send your children to receive a religious education. Accept it or move on.

The problem is that in rural areas there isn't a choice of school and many village schools are CofE. In our village the primary is CofE. The next nearest school is also CofE. I would have to have gone 6 miles before getting to a primary that isn't a Church school.

Move then, I'd choose an area to buy a property based on various things, my child's education would factor highly in that. If you don't take schools into account when buying a property it can't rate that highly.

Move then, I'd choose an area to buy a property based on various things, my child's education would factor highly in that.

Going to a CofE school has not negatively affected my children's education (it was a good school), but that doesn't mean I don't object on principle to CofE state schools existing. Yes, individuals can move house to avoid church schools, or send their child out of catchment, but why should they have to?

I wonder what proportion of people who live in England are practising Christians who actually want their children to have Christian-influenced education (i.e. actually want the church influence, rather than choosing a particular church school because it happens to be a generally better or more convenient school for them than other local options).

I don’t like it, it sounds draconian.

My son goes to a catholic school it’s a bloody nightmare! They refused to do zoom or video lessons because memes might be made of them but the teachers did a video collection of them singing hyms for Instagram.. seriously 😐

Going to a CofE school has not negatively affected my children's education (it was a good school), but that doesn't mean I don't object on principle to CofE state schools existing. Yes, individuals can move house to avoid church schools, or send their child out of catchment, but why should they have to?

They don't have to, but then don't whinge about it! If you'd t like the school in the area for whatever reason, then don't move there.

I wonder what proportion of people who live in England are practising Christians who actually want their children to have Christian-influenced education (i.e. actually want the church influence, rather than choosing a particular church school because it happens to be a generally better or more convenient school for them than other local options).

Loads and then start complaining and wanting the school to change! If you e chosen that school, you've chosen that school. If it's CofE then Christianity will feature.

I sent my child to a non-denominational primary school in Scotland, knowing that all it guaranteed was non-Catholic. All fine until a new head came in, and suddenly Bible stories were being taught as literal truth and the church men were never out of the bloody place. The C of E school in our catchment when we moved to rural England was way less inclined to indoctrinating the children, and sees Christianity in practice as the framework to a kind and thoughtful approach to education. The motto and slogan are there as an obligation and none of the teaching staff are practising Christians, rather like the local intake in fact.
In my rural county most of the village schools are affiliated with one flavour of church or another. What you actually get in practice is the luck of the draw, whatever your choice (if you have a choice). There is no such thing as a secular school.

It's a C of E school, you chose to send them there, so you accepted the motto.

For the love of god, just cancel the cheque!!!

FFS.

I am so glad I live in France where all state schools are secular.

I really feel for you non-religious parents who have no choice but to send your kids to a religious school. I also think the responses would be really different if the only available choices were, say, a moderate muslim school.

I think it's good when children get to hear the other side of the religion argument.
If a child has only been taught one side they can then hear the other side and makeup their own mind as to what they believe.

The OP made me laugh. I see lots of people are taking it very much to heart.

The established church is patriarchal. Massively. I went to a Church School (private) and it probably put me off religion for life!

I'm with you OP. The motto is depressing.
We also have no choice but to go to our local primary CofE too. My tax is funding it, same as any other. I'd much prefer religion was not part of schools in this way.

I'm with you OP. The motto is depressing.
We also have no choice but to go to our local primary CofE too. My tax is funding it, same as any other. I'd much prefer religion was not part of schools in this way.

@YewHedge

I think it's good when children get to hear the other side of the religion argument. If a child has only been taught one side they can then hear the other side and makeup their own mind as to what they believe.

You say that like there's only two 'sides' and not thousands.