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Group chats getting out of hand

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CharDee · 14/07/2020 11:38

God, this is so unnecessarily long and so ridiculous but I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not crazy to be bothered by this.

I am in a few family group chats on WhatsApp. With my family I have one with my immediate family so parents, siblings and their OH’s, one with just me and my siblings. This is fine and manageable. The siblings chat is usually only ever used if we’re planning presents for our parents and everything else e.g. updates on dc or just general chat goes in our family chat. My brother lives abroad so it’s nice to all chat with him and SIL and share photos.

DH’s family on the other hand is something else. He has a sister and BiL as well as another brother, his wife and their children who live down south. With them we have the following group chats:
⁃ All the family (PILs, SIL and her DH, BIL and DW, me and DH)
⁃ Local family (all of the above apart from BIL and DW)
⁃ Updates on Coronavirus (local family)
⁃ Updates on DS (about our son which is just for local family)
⁃ Sibling chat with SIL, her Dh and me
⁃ Just DH and SIL
⁃ Updates on DN (about SIL’s son which is for all family)
⁃ Shopping (local family)
⁃ Food (local family)
⁃ Updates for all the children (shared with all family)

I hardly speak in them unless asked a question or if I have to tell someone something. All of these chats were made by SIL who has some control issues which I’ve spoken in here about before.

Anyway last night it came to a bit of a head. DH shared a photo in the group of all the family of DS. BIL replied and asked me something, I replied and asked SiL a question about DN. She then responded in the “updates for all children” chat reminding me and DH that this was the group from discussing children. DH just replied and said that it was easier to just talk in chats and not compartmentalise every conversation. SIL replied that it was easier for her to keep track of everything we were talking about if everyone just stuck to the groups. I carried on the conversation with BIL in the original group as normal and was then sent messages from SIL asking me to just follow the group chat agreements (?) this will then make sure she can keep track of everything that is being said. I had to reply telling her that it was not up to her to police our conversations and that I will talk about whatever I want with who I want. She replied saying that she was just trying to make sure everyone followed the correct chats and I just replied telling her she was not a moderator of our chats and that this was just another way for her to attempt to be in control and I wasn’t going to put up with this kind of shit any more.

I removed myself from the other ridiculous chats such as food (where she updates us with pictures of food they eat and asks us what we’re eating), shopping (where she tells is what she has been buying and shares discounts), COVID updates (where her and her husband share links to news about it) and the rest of them but stayed in the one of the whole family.

SIL sent a message to that group basically calling me out for trying to take over chats and said that she would no longer be participating in family group chats. I replied to say that this wasn’t true and that I was happy to talk to the family but felt that having so many different chats was excessive and pointless when it was easy enough to have a group conversation in one place. I also said about her attempts to police chats being ridiculous. DH backed me up and said that he felt that it was silly to be talking in a chat and then change to a different one if we want to have a conversation about another topic and that everything he would share in the other groups he would share with everyone so didn’t see the point in having different groups. SIL then removed herself from the group and hasn’t spoken since.

Of course DH got a phone call from his mum asking him to apologise to SIL for both me and him. He asked her what we’d done wrong and she said that we (meaning me) had over reacted to what she was saying and she was really only trying to keep everyone talking. DH said that he thought the whole thing was just a pointless argument over nothing at all and didn’t see what we had to apologise for. He asked mil if maybe she would like to discuss SIL’s control issues with her as he is worried about that need to be in charge has got so bad that she feels she needs to police family group chats on WhatsApp. MIL said that SIL wasn’t the problem here and that they’d be waiting when DH and I were ready to make amends.

I’m not surprised that mil has got involved. I think I may have over reacted slightly but years of anger about SIL needing to be in control of everything or make things about her for no reason other than someone else getting attention have obviously built up! I am low contact with her anyway but feel like I just want to be done with her. I love DN though and she wouldn’t allow me to see him if I stopped talking to her or if I didn’t apologise.

Was I being completely unreasonable to say I was done with this shit and to refuse to apologise? Or is it best to just be the bigger person, apologise and move on? The whole thing seems so high school and trivial so maybe it's just lockdown getting to me!

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OliviaBenson · 16/07/2020 12:03

I think if you, DH and your nice SIL etc just quietly get on with communicating like normal adults, she'll be the one that misses out eventually. Glad that you aren't pandering to her.

I must ask though- what are the Anna and Jack threads?!!!!

CharDee · 16/07/2020 12:42

Jack and Anna were friends. During a meal Jack said something rude and insensitive about my recent pregnancy loss and our decision to have no more children. It would have been ok if jack just apologised but he didn't and refused to admit he had said something wrong. I pretended to go the toilet but just drove home instead and then when DH and our other friends realised I'd gone they left too. Anna then tried to make it seem as if it was me being dramatic and tried to get the others to agree with her. Then she text me to say she didn't want to see me but would let me know when she was free.

The whole thing at the time seemed horrible but now it just makes me feel a bit sad that they lost their closest friends and that I don't see their kids anymore.

Maybe it's me? Do I just attract crazy people?

I do happen to have some lovely friends and family that I don't post about!

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Happynow001 · 16/07/2020 12:56

Wow. What total PRATS Jack and Anna are. Well rid!! 🌹

ArnoJambonsBike · 16/07/2020 13:08

I remember the thread and how good your other friends were. Do they still see the bastards or have they lost everyone?

OliviaBenson · 16/07/2020 13:10

Oh gosh, I do remember that! It's not you, it's all them. Do the others that were at the meal still have much to do with them?

CharDee · 16/07/2020 13:52

Nobody speaks to them anymore. We still have some mutual friends but our main group of friends don't bother with them.

Anna did email my nursery (I'm the manager) to ask for a show around for their youngest so I let my deputy called her and she decided she don't want to come and look at the nursery after all Grin

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ArnoJambonsBike · 16/07/2020 14:29

That is a right result. Its lovely when people get to reap what they've sewn.

Slanabhaile · 16/07/2020 22:25

I remember the Jack and Anna thread, and remember thinking how calm and reasonable you were, despite obviously hurting.

justilou1 · 17/07/2020 02:41

I bet Anna was expecting you to call and offer mate’s rates

PatricksRum · 17/07/2020 03:37

@CharDee

Jack and Anna were friends. During a meal Jack said something rude and insensitive about my recent pregnancy loss and our decision to have no more children. It would have been ok if jack just apologised but he didn't and refused to admit he had said something wrong. I pretended to go the toilet but just drove home instead and then when DH and our other friends realised I'd gone they left too. Anna then tried to make it seem as if it was me being dramatic and tried to get the others to agree with her. Then she text me to say she didn't want to see me but would let me know when she was free.

The whole thing at the time seemed horrible but now it just makes me feel a bit sad that they lost their closest friends and that I don't see their kids anymore.

Maybe it's me? Do I just attract crazy people?

I do happen to have some lovely friends and family that I don't post about!

Oh gosh I remember who you are now!

The stories about SILA on holiday are possibly the most batshit stories I've heard.

I can't believe everyone just goes along with it.

I'd make a point of 'breaking' the rules Grin
Go to the wrong service stations and phone her saying you can't see them anywhere.

justilou1 · 17/07/2020 03:45

I actually like the idea of phoning people instead... it will break her paranoid little brain imagining what you are saying about her. (Because she can’t possibly imagine you having anything else to talk about, ever...)

CharDee · 17/07/2020 11:33

She's added all the family to another WhatsApp group called "Clearing the air" and has said that this can be for us to settle any disagreements.

I've just posted in it saying that there are too many groups for me to keep track of and I don't want to be added to anymore then left it.

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RandomMess · 17/07/2020 11:38

Utterly batshit!

TinyTear · 17/07/2020 11:42

She should have called it "Public Laundry" as she wants to be able to read all the dirt, if you have a disagreement, you should do it in private

Alexindiamondarmour · 17/07/2020 11:42

Good on you OP. She is seriously so controlling. Unbelievable how she gets away with it.

BGirlBouillabaisse · 17/07/2020 11:47

OP everyone's replying 'batshit!' and 'mental' but I don't think that's helpful.

You can't diagnose MH conditions/personality disorders over an online forum, but your description of her extremely controlling behaviour sounds to me like female ASD (I work with some ASD female children and their autism manifests this way). A personality disorder is also a possibility.

This doesn't change how you handle her, you still need to draw boundaries, but all the PPs' comments about her being 'batshit' are actually really ableist if she does indeed have control and anxiety issues due to a condition.

BGirlBouillabaisse · 17/07/2020 11:51

(Sorry OP I'm in no way denigrating your experiences - I think you've handled them admirably - I just hate the 'mental/batshit' pile on).

munzero · 17/07/2020 12:04

She sounds off her rocker! So glad you've put your foot down.

FrenchBoule · 17/07/2020 12:12

OP, I wish there were some more people in this world like you and sorry you have more than your fair share of arseholes.

Good for you for standing up for yourself.

I must say that as my age goes up my tolreance of shit goes down. I actually enjoy disagreeing with some people instead of putting up with them for the sake of it.
The outburst that usually follows makes them look like right twats 😂

YouUnlockedTheGateAnd · 17/07/2020 12:23

@CharDee

She's added all the family to another WhatsApp group called "Clearing the air" and has said that this can be for us to settle any disagreements.

I've just posted in it saying that there are too many groups for me to keep track of and I don't want to be added to anymore then left it.

Pure fucking gold!

A separate WhatsApp Group to disscuss a spat about there being too many WhatsApp groups 🤣🤣🤣🤣

User50000999788887876655 · 17/07/2020 12:35

@CharDee

She's added all the family to another WhatsApp group called "Clearing the air" and has said that this can be for us to settle any disagreements.

I've just posted in it saying that there are too many groups for me to keep track of and I don't want to be added to anymore then left it.

No way! 😂😂😂 another group when the argument was about too many groups.
Groovee · 17/07/2020 12:45

@CharDee

She's added all the family to another WhatsApp group called "Clearing the air" and has said that this can be for us to settle any disagreements.

I've just posted in it saying that there are too many groups for me to keep track of and I don't want to be added to anymore then left it.

You couldn't make it up! She'll be waiting a long time for an apology as you have nothing to apologise for.
Gottalovesummer · 17/07/2020 12:53

Does she have a job?

She needs to channel her obsessive need to organise everyone into something more productive and leave you poor guys alone.

JoeCalFuckingZaghe · 17/07/2020 12:57

I must say that as my age goes up my tolreance of shit goes down. I actually enjoy disagreeing with some people instead of putting up with them for the sake of it
Definitely!! The older I get the less likely I am to tolerate someone acting like a total twat.

OP, your replies are pure gold! I love it!

CharDee · 17/07/2020 13:12

She's currently on mat leave but before that had a really good job. She's the head of a department and has a lot of staff working under her. She isn't the type of person happy relaxing or taking a break, she always has to be planning or organising something.

Whilst she's been on mat leave she's also started her own company selling baby sensory baskets. Which is another thread entirely but she got the idea of it from me as I also sell them and I made one for DN when he was born. I used to run my own baby groups and had different themes and now make up packs around themes e.g. sensory, messy play, story sacks. She has taken to giving others advice based on things I've done or said but passing it off as her own ideas. She even used the exact wording from my sensory basket when advertising.

I do find it ridiculous that she's made a new group to discuss the fact that there are too many groups but also would we expect anything else?!

DH has sent her a message privately and just said that it's got out of hand and looking back on everything he believes she needs to get some support about her need to control and organise others. Mil has called him but he's working so didn't answer. My guess is I'll either get a call from her at some point this afternoon where she'll casually bring it up whilst talking about something non related or she'll keep trying DH until he answers.

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