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Group chats getting out of hand

292 replies

CharDee · 14/07/2020 11:38

God, this is so unnecessarily long and so ridiculous but I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not crazy to be bothered by this.

I am in a few family group chats on WhatsApp. With my family I have one with my immediate family so parents, siblings and their OH’s, one with just me and my siblings. This is fine and manageable. The siblings chat is usually only ever used if we’re planning presents for our parents and everything else e.g. updates on dc or just general chat goes in our family chat. My brother lives abroad so it’s nice to all chat with him and SIL and share photos.

DH’s family on the other hand is something else. He has a sister and BiL as well as another brother, his wife and their children who live down south. With them we have the following group chats:
⁃ All the family (PILs, SIL and her DH, BIL and DW, me and DH)
⁃ Local family (all of the above apart from BIL and DW)
⁃ Updates on Coronavirus (local family)
⁃ Updates on DS (about our son which is just for local family)
⁃ Sibling chat with SIL, her Dh and me
⁃ Just DH and SIL
⁃ Updates on DN (about SIL’s son which is for all family)
⁃ Shopping (local family)
⁃ Food (local family)
⁃ Updates for all the children (shared with all family)

I hardly speak in them unless asked a question or if I have to tell someone something. All of these chats were made by SIL who has some control issues which I’ve spoken in here about before.

Anyway last night it came to a bit of a head. DH shared a photo in the group of all the family of DS. BIL replied and asked me something, I replied and asked SiL a question about DN. She then responded in the “updates for all children” chat reminding me and DH that this was the group from discussing children. DH just replied and said that it was easier to just talk in chats and not compartmentalise every conversation. SIL replied that it was easier for her to keep track of everything we were talking about if everyone just stuck to the groups. I carried on the conversation with BIL in the original group as normal and was then sent messages from SIL asking me to just follow the group chat agreements (?) this will then make sure she can keep track of everything that is being said. I had to reply telling her that it was not up to her to police our conversations and that I will talk about whatever I want with who I want. She replied saying that she was just trying to make sure everyone followed the correct chats and I just replied telling her she was not a moderator of our chats and that this was just another way for her to attempt to be in control and I wasn’t going to put up with this kind of shit any more.

I removed myself from the other ridiculous chats such as food (where she updates us with pictures of food they eat and asks us what we’re eating), shopping (where she tells is what she has been buying and shares discounts), COVID updates (where her and her husband share links to news about it) and the rest of them but stayed in the one of the whole family.

SIL sent a message to that group basically calling me out for trying to take over chats and said that she would no longer be participating in family group chats. I replied to say that this wasn’t true and that I was happy to talk to the family but felt that having so many different chats was excessive and pointless when it was easy enough to have a group conversation in one place. I also said about her attempts to police chats being ridiculous. DH backed me up and said that he felt that it was silly to be talking in a chat and then change to a different one if we want to have a conversation about another topic and that everything he would share in the other groups he would share with everyone so didn’t see the point in having different groups. SIL then removed herself from the group and hasn’t spoken since.

Of course DH got a phone call from his mum asking him to apologise to SIL for both me and him. He asked her what we’d done wrong and she said that we (meaning me) had over reacted to what she was saying and she was really only trying to keep everyone talking. DH said that he thought the whole thing was just a pointless argument over nothing at all and didn’t see what we had to apologise for. He asked mil if maybe she would like to discuss SIL’s control issues with her as he is worried about that need to be in charge has got so bad that she feels she needs to police family group chats on WhatsApp. MIL said that SIL wasn’t the problem here and that they’d be waiting when DH and I were ready to make amends.

I’m not surprised that mil has got involved. I think I may have over reacted slightly but years of anger about SIL needing to be in control of everything or make things about her for no reason other than someone else getting attention have obviously built up! I am low contact with her anyway but feel like I just want to be done with her. I love DN though and she wouldn’t allow me to see him if I stopped talking to her or if I didn’t apologise.

Was I being completely unreasonable to say I was done with this shit and to refuse to apologise? Or is it best to just be the bigger person, apologise and move on? The whole thing seems so high school and trivial so maybe it's just lockdown getting to me!

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Queenoftheashes · 14/07/2020 12:27

Fuck me how can anyone be arsed to entertain all this nonsense?!
It sounds like you’ve been patient enough.

DingDongDenny · 14/07/2020 12:28

Have any of the other family members commented about it. I bet they agree with you

LaneBoy · 14/07/2020 12:31

It’s really odd behaviour - you were right to be assertive, you’re braver than I am!
I’d be genuinely worried about her MH (as for me any urges to control stuff stems from anxiety but I can keep it in check due to knowing how badly it comes across) but that doesn’t mean you should put up with that. Enabling behaviour like that wouldn’t help her anyway.

justanotherneighinparadise · 14/07/2020 12:32

Oh I’d just take myself off all chats and leave them to it. Couldn’t be bothered with all the crazy!!

Brefugee · 14/07/2020 12:33

gosh, well done on the boundary setting, OP. Having seen the updates i agree that SIL is a control freak and MIL (and others) are enabling her.

I'd completely ignore everything and if you want to say something in the group say it, otherwise be happy not to be involved in it all. Love your DH being on your side in this. Poor BiL though!

HollowTalk · 14/07/2020 12:36

So is her partner part of the family or does she exclude him, too?

totalpondlife · 14/07/2020 12:36

It sounds like you are totally done with her. In which case don't apologise.
Will there be issues with your relations with the rest of the family though?

formyboys · 14/07/2020 12:40

Not at all! I would say it is more enabling and ridiculous to go along with this behaviour. I think the more worrying thing is why no one is querying her mental health? Clearly it is very bad or she wouldn't feel the need to micro manage in such a strange way. Can your family speak to her partner ? It sounds like OCD or severe anxiety.

AnneLovesGilbert · 14/07/2020 12:40

Wow, she’s unhinged and a complete bitch from the back story. Imagine the joy and peace of no longer having to deal with the incessant fucking drama. This is your chance to set yourself freeeeeeeee! Congratulations. If MIL isn’t careful she can do one too. They can have as many stupid themed groups the two of them want. Sheer blood madness the whole thing. You have my admiration for your clear and healthy boundary setting and your DH for knowing you’re right.

QuickNmChg · 14/07/2020 12:42

she didn't want DH to tell me the sex of DN when she was pregnant because she only wanted family to know.

How very hurtful 😔. She sounds a bit like my SIL actually. We haven’t seen her for years due to her appalling behaviour and my PIL’s unshaken belief that she’s done nothing wrong.

Stand your ground, OP. And don’t let her back into the WhatsApp groups 😂.

MzHz · 14/07/2020 12:42

I definitely wouldn’t apologise either!

“I apologise when I’ve made a mistake, I merely stated that I won’t be told what to say or not say, where and to whom. If that offends someone trying to police things, so be it. There may be an apology owed, but it’s not mine to give.”

Stick to your guns love. Better let dh deal with them entirely.

WhatsApp groups for family - in my opinion- are a bit lame. I genuinely don’t care about what others eat/see/do, or the minutiae of their dc day. Ok I have an odd and bit shit family, but When it comes to my sister or her kids, I could take them or leave them.

Eddielzzard · 14/07/2020 12:43

Wow. I wouldn't apologise. Sounds like everyone is appeasing her all the time.

Ilovecharliecat · 14/07/2020 12:45

my God she sound exhausting, OP just remove yourself from all the groups that your DSIL is involved with and enjoy a quieter life

Frozenfrogs86 · 14/07/2020 12:48

You probably did overreact and for her it will have felt out of the blue even though you were justified in being annoyed!

So I would clear the air and say you can’t keep track of all the groups but you don’t want to fall out with her over it. Could we just all move on?

Frozenfrogs86 · 14/07/2020 12:50

I meant overreacted in saying “I’m so fed up with this shit”, although your anger at the actual issue and previous ones sounds totally justified.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 14/07/2020 12:50

I'm reeling at all those different chats. We don't have that many at work, why would it be necessary for 'departments' in a family group setting? Shock

Your SIL has really overreacted and taken MIL with her.

puptent · 14/07/2020 12:51

We have a wider family group chat and there are too many people in it with clashing personalities/different ideas of chat etiquette/generations etc and it does get confusing. I have muted the group but sometimes DH will give me a heads-up that it's all kicking off in the fam-chat so I head over and spend a gawping 10 minutes reading the unfolding convo.

As Pammy would say, 'It's all the drama, Mick. I love it!'

pictish · 14/07/2020 12:54

Ach aye, she’s a meddlesome, controlling, insecure and manipulative pain in the arse.

In hindsight it would have been much better to politely stick to, ‘no thank you sil I am fine chatting to xxx on this group’ and ‘nevertheless I am fine chatting on this group at the moment’ while ignoring all protests. You let it get to you and now it’s two to tango.

Don’t apologise for refusing to obey her orders...she is being ridiculous about that...but perhaps express regret that it got so heated and that you value her and would like to move on. Even if you don’t and you’re not arsed, it shows you are willing to concede on the fact that you lost your temper too.
At this point it would be prudent to tell your sil that you don’t want your chats to be managed and that you will continue to use the group as you like. She can like it or lump it, the silly bitch.

DomDoesWotHeWants · 14/07/2020 12:57

Good grief. Utter madness.

MRex · 14/07/2020 12:57

Maybe set up a new group called counselling and send her links to local therapists.
^ Bwahaha, love this!

Nobody can get on with that many groups, that's bonkers.

Morred · 14/07/2020 13:01

If you want to keep/mend the peace, I would go down the lines of "it's too complicated to keep up with all the different topics, as I have lots of other group chats, so I will stay out for now so I don't inadvertently upset SIL".

Then don't send any pictures or updates to your MIL for a while and see if she calls to ask for some...

Splitsunrise · 14/07/2020 13:05

Jeez she sounds totally self absorbed....

backseatcookers · 14/07/2020 13:11

She sounds like a horribly controlling person and manipulative too. Let me guess, perpetual victim?

Cried at your wedding because she wasn't married first. The queen of making everything about her! Embarrassing.

Last year she said that I wasn't part of the family so this seems to be a family issue

You missed a trick here. She says you're not part of the family? No need for you to be part of the family group chats then Grin

Poor you. Glad you and your partner stood both stood your ground on this.

It must be exhausting being her. And she's choosing to make it that way. Let her tire herself out like a toddler having a tantrum.

thatmustbenigelwiththebrie · 14/07/2020 13:11

Why don't you make a new chat called "Miscellaneous". Then just use that one. She can't complain it's not relevant.

DarkDarkNight · 14/07/2020 13:13

YANBU, how weird of her. Are you meant to stop a chat if it strays in to food or shopping and go post in there? She’s weird.

I left our family chat (just the one) because two people were arranging lifts to activities through it that didn’t involve anyone else. I was inundated with it and when I said just text each other it carried on so I left. I haven’t got time for that shit.