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Group chats getting out of hand

292 replies

CharDee · 14/07/2020 11:38

God, this is so unnecessarily long and so ridiculous but I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not crazy to be bothered by this.

I am in a few family group chats on WhatsApp. With my family I have one with my immediate family so parents, siblings and their OH’s, one with just me and my siblings. This is fine and manageable. The siblings chat is usually only ever used if we’re planning presents for our parents and everything else e.g. updates on dc or just general chat goes in our family chat. My brother lives abroad so it’s nice to all chat with him and SIL and share photos.

DH’s family on the other hand is something else. He has a sister and BiL as well as another brother, his wife and their children who live down south. With them we have the following group chats:
⁃ All the family (PILs, SIL and her DH, BIL and DW, me and DH)
⁃ Local family (all of the above apart from BIL and DW)
⁃ Updates on Coronavirus (local family)
⁃ Updates on DS (about our son which is just for local family)
⁃ Sibling chat with SIL, her Dh and me
⁃ Just DH and SIL
⁃ Updates on DN (about SIL’s son which is for all family)
⁃ Shopping (local family)
⁃ Food (local family)
⁃ Updates for all the children (shared with all family)

I hardly speak in them unless asked a question or if I have to tell someone something. All of these chats were made by SIL who has some control issues which I’ve spoken in here about before.

Anyway last night it came to a bit of a head. DH shared a photo in the group of all the family of DS. BIL replied and asked me something, I replied and asked SiL a question about DN. She then responded in the “updates for all children” chat reminding me and DH that this was the group from discussing children. DH just replied and said that it was easier to just talk in chats and not compartmentalise every conversation. SIL replied that it was easier for her to keep track of everything we were talking about if everyone just stuck to the groups. I carried on the conversation with BIL in the original group as normal and was then sent messages from SIL asking me to just follow the group chat agreements (?) this will then make sure she can keep track of everything that is being said. I had to reply telling her that it was not up to her to police our conversations and that I will talk about whatever I want with who I want. She replied saying that she was just trying to make sure everyone followed the correct chats and I just replied telling her she was not a moderator of our chats and that this was just another way for her to attempt to be in control and I wasn’t going to put up with this kind of shit any more.

I removed myself from the other ridiculous chats such as food (where she updates us with pictures of food they eat and asks us what we’re eating), shopping (where she tells is what she has been buying and shares discounts), COVID updates (where her and her husband share links to news about it) and the rest of them but stayed in the one of the whole family.

SIL sent a message to that group basically calling me out for trying to take over chats and said that she would no longer be participating in family group chats. I replied to say that this wasn’t true and that I was happy to talk to the family but felt that having so many different chats was excessive and pointless when it was easy enough to have a group conversation in one place. I also said about her attempts to police chats being ridiculous. DH backed me up and said that he felt that it was silly to be talking in a chat and then change to a different one if we want to have a conversation about another topic and that everything he would share in the other groups he would share with everyone so didn’t see the point in having different groups. SIL then removed herself from the group and hasn’t spoken since.

Of course DH got a phone call from his mum asking him to apologise to SIL for both me and him. He asked her what we’d done wrong and she said that we (meaning me) had over reacted to what she was saying and she was really only trying to keep everyone talking. DH said that he thought the whole thing was just a pointless argument over nothing at all and didn’t see what we had to apologise for. He asked mil if maybe she would like to discuss SIL’s control issues with her as he is worried about that need to be in charge has got so bad that she feels she needs to police family group chats on WhatsApp. MIL said that SIL wasn’t the problem here and that they’d be waiting when DH and I were ready to make amends.

I’m not surprised that mil has got involved. I think I may have over reacted slightly but years of anger about SIL needing to be in control of everything or make things about her for no reason other than someone else getting attention have obviously built up! I am low contact with her anyway but feel like I just want to be done with her. I love DN though and she wouldn’t allow me to see him if I stopped talking to her or if I didn’t apologise.

Was I being completely unreasonable to say I was done with this shit and to refuse to apologise? Or is it best to just be the bigger person, apologise and move on? The whole thing seems so high school and trivial so maybe it's just lockdown getting to me!

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Noshowlomo · 17/07/2020 21:36

It’s so refreshing to read about a DH that totally sticks up for his other half 🙌🏼

WonderWebbs · 17/07/2020 21:40

This is the craziest thread I have read, ever! Your SIL is mad as a hatter bad enough over the WhatsApp groups but combined with the holiday and baby gender I don't know how you and your DH have put up with her childishness.

Your DH sounds lovely and your MIL needs to butt out and realise that due to her pandering to SIL she hasn't helped the situation.

OnceUponAMidnightBeery · 17/07/2020 21:46

Wow! If you and DH ever think about polygamy in the future, please call me and most of MN

Don’t feel bad, he totally has your back and that is so good to hear. Who cares what that cow and her herd think of you? Your DH has seen through them, you are not the reason for any rift, they are!

KitchenConfidential · 17/07/2020 22:40

It’s so refreshing to read about a DH that totally sticks up for his other half

This is truth right here!

Alexindiamondarmour · 17/07/2020 22:49

Your DH is amazing.

Sorry if I’ve missed this, but I suddenly thought, your niece living with you isn’t the daughter of the annoying SIL is she?? Did I miss that part?

BrightYellowDaffodil · 17/07/2020 22:50

My niece has just popped her head around the door and said "I know it's none of my business so I am keeping out of it. But the walls aren't soundproof and I heard you on the phone to your mum. Just want to say that you're the best for sticking up for aunt char and that you were the best when you looked after me when I fell out with my mum so I'm here to help look after you now." Then she gave him a beer and me a glass of wine. DH had actual tears in his eyes when she hugged him. I love them both so much!!!

Is anyone else finding it awfully dusty in here? Or maybe it’s just my hay fever...

TitianaTitsling · 17/07/2020 22:57

God char you and dh are MUCH MUCH better people than us, to be so calm and rational in the face of this bat-shittery. Yes I know a pp has said that we are being ableist by saying this. But I absolutely do not think her behaviour and treatment of you is acceptable whatever.

excuseforfights · 17/07/2020 23:22

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WindsorBlues · 17/07/2020 23:24

She sounds intolerable. A few years ago I got a bit crazy and tried to micromanagement every thing and person around me, no where near as extreme as your SIL. It took a mental breakdown for me to reliase how unhealthy and unsustainable it was. As awful as it was it really was one of the best things that happened to me. If I start to feel it creeping up again I just chant to myself "control is just an illusion".

You've done really well in dealing with her, you've been firm but kind. I really hope she gets the help she needs.

VillanellesOrangeCoat · 17/07/2020 23:27

@BrightYellowDaffodil yes my hay fever seems to be flaring up too...

CharDee · 17/07/2020 23:39

No my niece is my sisters daughter. She has been living with us since last year. My sister reacted badly to something that happened to my niece and she came to stay with us for a few weeks which turned to months which turned in to her just living here now. My family isn't the best but we know how to give each other space as well as be there for each other when we need to be! It's all sorted between them but she wants to stay here with us and she can have her own space.

DH is pretty amazing. I am really lucky. I think it's harder for him than he's letting on. His parents were able to give him a good childhood, he went to a private school, paid for uni, they bought him his first house and have done loads for him. He used to be close to his sister until they were in their teens and they just drifted apart. I think the biggest problem is that MIL has always said that SIL is the smarter one and she is on paper more successful than DH. DH is very smart and has a good job that isn't as good as hers but he is happier, has more friends and is just a genuinely nice person. She has always been more "driven" as MIL would say and DH is laid back. From what I can tell he's always been made to feel like she is the higher achiever and he won't do as well. So maybe that has something to do with her behaviour? I don't know, I think the wine has turned me in to an armchair psychologist!

OP posts:
CharDee · 17/07/2020 23:47

Also, while I'm being sappy I'm really lucky to have my niece too. She is awesome and after all the shit from last year it's been great having here.

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justilou1 · 18/07/2020 01:15

I think your DH and your DN need superhero capes right now! I bet you feel like you’re finally being liberated from some weird emotional prison (no matter how temporary) and I wouldn’t be surprised if the lovely in-laws follow suit.

Inkanta · 18/07/2020 06:24

The boundary is in place. The next stage can be a bit uncomfortable. Giving SIL and MIL some distance. Hope you can hang in there and resist temptation to smooth things over. Give it a few weeks or months. and time for them to think about it. Hopefully SIL will think again before trying it on with you. MIL also has a lesson to learn.

maddiemookins16mum · 18/07/2020 06:54

I’m confused just reading it.

HeatingOnInJuly · 18/07/2020 07:34

Oh my God, I thought my SIL was batshit but this is something else.

What was the story about the child's birthday party? Mine started drama over my DC's party once, it seems a trigger point.

I can't get over how controlling yours is!

ellieelephant1 · 18/07/2020 08:16

Your DH sounds magnificent!

roking · 18/07/2020 09:23

You have my sympathy!

My DFs brothers wife is like this. She is obsessed with being in MILs good books, she is always trying to organise the whole family and gets annoyed when we speak to each other without involving her

My DF is a lot closer to his other brother, so we just naturally see him and other SIL more. Our kids are all girls and at school together/have the same friend group so we are just more involved with each other day to day. This drives controlling SIL nuts. She is always trying to involve her family in things, which would be fine, but she just takes over and plans everything down to the last centimetre and that just sucks all the fun out

She is always asking when we last spoke to other BIL/SIL and asking them when they last spoke to us. I quite believe if she could monitor our chats she would.

DFs sister doesn't speak to her at all (their kids fell out and it escalated) but for some reason MIL thinks the sun shines out of her and she always says SIL is just doing her best

It's very draining!

RandomMess · 18/07/2020 09:24

I guess has always been told she is better, so she will truly believe that her way is right/best etc. It could have completely fed into a superiority complex. 🤷🏽‍♀️

TrickyKid · 18/07/2020 09:27

Wtf. She sounds batshit. Updates on children?? I didn't realise this was a thing.

justanotherneighinparadise · 18/07/2020 11:32

OP I am concerned this might end up in the Daily Mail. Just be aware of that as it’s just the thought of thing they’d stick on their website.

DiscBeard · 18/07/2020 20:01

Any developments OP?

ECBC · 18/07/2020 22:09

I think you should just post a link to this discussion on WhatsApp Grin. I genuinely don’t know how you’ve held it together this long. You deserve a medal. And a bottle of wine. And a holiday Wine

MzHz · 19/07/2020 11:10

@CharDee

She's added all the family to another WhatsApp group called "Clearing the air" and has said that this can be for us to settle any disagreements.

I've just posted in it saying that there are too many groups for me to keep track of and I don't want to be added to anymore then left it.

You literally could not make this up!!
thebees · 19/07/2020 11:12

I felt lost after seeing how many there were.

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