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Group chats getting out of hand

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CharDee · 14/07/2020 11:38

God, this is so unnecessarily long and so ridiculous but I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not crazy to be bothered by this.

I am in a few family group chats on WhatsApp. With my family I have one with my immediate family so parents, siblings and their OH’s, one with just me and my siblings. This is fine and manageable. The siblings chat is usually only ever used if we’re planning presents for our parents and everything else e.g. updates on dc or just general chat goes in our family chat. My brother lives abroad so it’s nice to all chat with him and SIL and share photos.

DH’s family on the other hand is something else. He has a sister and BiL as well as another brother, his wife and their children who live down south. With them we have the following group chats:
⁃ All the family (PILs, SIL and her DH, BIL and DW, me and DH)
⁃ Local family (all of the above apart from BIL and DW)
⁃ Updates on Coronavirus (local family)
⁃ Updates on DS (about our son which is just for local family)
⁃ Sibling chat with SIL, her Dh and me
⁃ Just DH and SIL
⁃ Updates on DN (about SIL’s son which is for all family)
⁃ Shopping (local family)
⁃ Food (local family)
⁃ Updates for all the children (shared with all family)

I hardly speak in them unless asked a question or if I have to tell someone something. All of these chats were made by SIL who has some control issues which I’ve spoken in here about before.

Anyway last night it came to a bit of a head. DH shared a photo in the group of all the family of DS. BIL replied and asked me something, I replied and asked SiL a question about DN. She then responded in the “updates for all children” chat reminding me and DH that this was the group from discussing children. DH just replied and said that it was easier to just talk in chats and not compartmentalise every conversation. SIL replied that it was easier for her to keep track of everything we were talking about if everyone just stuck to the groups. I carried on the conversation with BIL in the original group as normal and was then sent messages from SIL asking me to just follow the group chat agreements (?) this will then make sure she can keep track of everything that is being said. I had to reply telling her that it was not up to her to police our conversations and that I will talk about whatever I want with who I want. She replied saying that she was just trying to make sure everyone followed the correct chats and I just replied telling her she was not a moderator of our chats and that this was just another way for her to attempt to be in control and I wasn’t going to put up with this kind of shit any more.

I removed myself from the other ridiculous chats such as food (where she updates us with pictures of food they eat and asks us what we’re eating), shopping (where she tells is what she has been buying and shares discounts), COVID updates (where her and her husband share links to news about it) and the rest of them but stayed in the one of the whole family.

SIL sent a message to that group basically calling me out for trying to take over chats and said that she would no longer be participating in family group chats. I replied to say that this wasn’t true and that I was happy to talk to the family but felt that having so many different chats was excessive and pointless when it was easy enough to have a group conversation in one place. I also said about her attempts to police chats being ridiculous. DH backed me up and said that he felt that it was silly to be talking in a chat and then change to a different one if we want to have a conversation about another topic and that everything he would share in the other groups he would share with everyone so didn’t see the point in having different groups. SIL then removed herself from the group and hasn’t spoken since.

Of course DH got a phone call from his mum asking him to apologise to SIL for both me and him. He asked her what we’d done wrong and she said that we (meaning me) had over reacted to what she was saying and she was really only trying to keep everyone talking. DH said that he thought the whole thing was just a pointless argument over nothing at all and didn’t see what we had to apologise for. He asked mil if maybe she would like to discuss SIL’s control issues with her as he is worried about that need to be in charge has got so bad that she feels she needs to police family group chats on WhatsApp. MIL said that SIL wasn’t the problem here and that they’d be waiting when DH and I were ready to make amends.

I’m not surprised that mil has got involved. I think I may have over reacted slightly but years of anger about SIL needing to be in control of everything or make things about her for no reason other than someone else getting attention have obviously built up! I am low contact with her anyway but feel like I just want to be done with her. I love DN though and she wouldn’t allow me to see him if I stopped talking to her or if I didn’t apologise.

Was I being completely unreasonable to say I was done with this shit and to refuse to apologise? Or is it best to just be the bigger person, apologise and move on? The whole thing seems so high school and trivial so maybe it's just lockdown getting to me!

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billy1966 · 11/02/2022 21:52

I wouldn't mind an update too.

The OP and her husband had the patience of saints.

And as for Jack and Anna, such awful people.

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MichelleScarn · 11/02/2022 21:09

Although I do wonder what occurred in the end!

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MichelleScarn · 11/02/2022 21:08

🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️ ZOMBIE!! 🧟‍♂️🧟‍♀️

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Hugoslavia · 11/02/2022 21:03

Could you not just have apologized for not sticking to the rules, then immediately set up a What's App Group called 'The Big Inclusive Family Chat Group About Anything and Everything - No Topics Are Off Limits Group.

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User50000999788887876655 · 23/07/2020 07:11

@CharDee

SIL B is a Chelsea fan and I'm a Liverpool fan. She posted in the family group (SIL A has rejoined but not actually said anything in it) and she posted earlier "When I want to argue about football with Char and Mr Dee later, do I post it here or in the other group? Don't want to get reprimanded."

Then BIL suggested we make another group for football but asked if we should create a group to discuss creating new groups 

SIL A probably thinks they are backing her up and making helpful suggestions 😂
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Buttercupsandroses · 23/07/2020 02:07

😂😂

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Jux · 23/07/2020 01:30

Love that. Start a group for discussing new groups. I hope they've actually done that.

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Slanabhaile · 23/07/2020 00:03

That's brilliant! Well done silB😂😂

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LaneBoy · 22/07/2020 23:59

Best update yet :o

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Rosspoldarkssaddle · 22/07/2020 23:58

You could have a group to discuss the groups, a group to ask which group to post in, a group to discuss whether you actually need ten groups, a group to post therapy and armchair psychoanalysis, a group to query whether psychoanalysis should be armchair or zoom. A technology discussion group a family.counselling group...oh what fun you could have.
She is bonkers, mother is enabling, dh is great and silb has made her choice.

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RandomMess · 22/07/2020 23:50

😂

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InsertHilariousUserName · 22/07/2020 23:50

Grin that's so funny!! They'll get mil giving them a right telling off for upsetting her little princess!!

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CharDee · 22/07/2020 23:13

SIL B is a Chelsea fan and I'm a Liverpool fan. She posted in the family group (SIL A has rejoined but not actually said anything in it) and she posted earlier "When I want to argue about football with Char and Mr Dee later, do I post it here or in the other group? Don't want to get reprimanded."

Then BIL suggested we make another group for football but asked if we should create a group to discuss creating new groups 

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BurnIt · 19/07/2020 12:12

So what would happen.of you were making a birthday cake for a niece or nephew and you disagreed with one of the others about it? Where would you post? Kids, food disagreements?

I want you to do this just to see of her head explodes... I
🤣😂🙌

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MzHz · 19/07/2020 11:21

But it wouldn’t be if we took our eye off the ball with either my family or my dh’s...

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MzHz · 19/07/2020 11:21

@CharDee please don’t feel guilty, you didn’t make your lovely DH choose, he knows them better than you and this stuff has been brewing forever.

Let him make the decisions and put in hard boundaries as he needs to, as you say, your family has its issues too, so you’re a bit blind to some of the dynamics going on here.

You and dh are good people! Your DN is lucky to have you and she’s a lovely young woman to have in your home!

Enjoy the peace and happiness you’ve all created! Defend it and protect it to the hilt!

That’s what we do here and it’s bliss!!

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MzHz · 19/07/2020 11:16

@BrightYellowDaffodil

My niece has just popped her head around the door and said "I know it's none of my business so I am keeping out of it. But the walls aren't soundproof and I heard you on the phone to your mum. Just want to say that you're the best for sticking up for aunt char and that you were the best when you looked after me when I fell out with my mum so I'm here to help look after you now." Then she gave him a beer and me a glass of wine. DH had actual tears in his eyes when she hugged him. I love them both so much!!!

Is anyone else finding it awfully dusty in here? Or maybe it’s just my hay fever...

Terribly high pollen ...
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thebees · 19/07/2020 11:12

I felt lost after seeing how many there were.

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MzHz · 19/07/2020 11:10

@CharDee

She's added all the family to another WhatsApp group called "Clearing the air" and has said that this can be for us to settle any disagreements.

I've just posted in it saying that there are too many groups for me to keep track of and I don't want to be added to anymore then left it.

You literally could not make this up!!

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ECBC · 18/07/2020 22:09

I think you should just post a link to this discussion on WhatsApp Grin. I genuinely don’t know how you’ve held it together this long. You deserve a medal. And a bottle of wine. And a holiday Wine

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DiscBeard · 18/07/2020 20:01

Any developments OP?

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justanotherneighinparadise · 18/07/2020 11:32

OP I am concerned this might end up in the Daily Mail. Just be aware of that as it’s just the thought of thing they’d stick on their website.

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TrickyKid · 18/07/2020 09:27

Wtf. She sounds batshit. Updates on children?? I didn't realise this was a thing.

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RandomMess · 18/07/2020 09:24

I guess has always been told she is better, so she will truly believe that her way is right/best etc. It could have completely fed into a superiority complex. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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roking · 18/07/2020 09:23

You have my sympathy!

My DFs brothers wife is like this. She is obsessed with being in MILs good books, she is always trying to organise the whole family and gets annoyed when we speak to each other without involving her

My DF is a lot closer to his other brother, so we just naturally see him and other SIL more. Our kids are all girls and at school together/have the same friend group so we are just more involved with each other day to day. This drives controlling SIL nuts. She is always trying to involve her family in things, which would be fine, but she just takes over and plans everything down to the last centimetre and that just sucks all the fun out

She is always asking when we last spoke to other BIL/SIL and asking them when they last spoke to us. I quite believe if she could monitor our chats she would.

DFs sister doesn't speak to her at all (their kids fell out and it escalated) but for some reason MIL thinks the sun shines out of her and she always says SIL is just doing her best

It's very draining!

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