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Group chats getting out of hand

292 replies

CharDee · 14/07/2020 11:38

God, this is so unnecessarily long and so ridiculous but I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not crazy to be bothered by this.

I am in a few family group chats on WhatsApp. With my family I have one with my immediate family so parents, siblings and their OH’s, one with just me and my siblings. This is fine and manageable. The siblings chat is usually only ever used if we’re planning presents for our parents and everything else e.g. updates on dc or just general chat goes in our family chat. My brother lives abroad so it’s nice to all chat with him and SIL and share photos.

DH’s family on the other hand is something else. He has a sister and BiL as well as another brother, his wife and their children who live down south. With them we have the following group chats:
⁃ All the family (PILs, SIL and her DH, BIL and DW, me and DH)
⁃ Local family (all of the above apart from BIL and DW)
⁃ Updates on Coronavirus (local family)
⁃ Updates on DS (about our son which is just for local family)
⁃ Sibling chat with SIL, her Dh and me
⁃ Just DH and SIL
⁃ Updates on DN (about SIL’s son which is for all family)
⁃ Shopping (local family)
⁃ Food (local family)
⁃ Updates for all the children (shared with all family)

I hardly speak in them unless asked a question or if I have to tell someone something. All of these chats were made by SIL who has some control issues which I’ve spoken in here about before.

Anyway last night it came to a bit of a head. DH shared a photo in the group of all the family of DS. BIL replied and asked me something, I replied and asked SiL a question about DN. She then responded in the “updates for all children” chat reminding me and DH that this was the group from discussing children. DH just replied and said that it was easier to just talk in chats and not compartmentalise every conversation. SIL replied that it was easier for her to keep track of everything we were talking about if everyone just stuck to the groups. I carried on the conversation with BIL in the original group as normal and was then sent messages from SIL asking me to just follow the group chat agreements (?) this will then make sure she can keep track of everything that is being said. I had to reply telling her that it was not up to her to police our conversations and that I will talk about whatever I want with who I want. She replied saying that she was just trying to make sure everyone followed the correct chats and I just replied telling her she was not a moderator of our chats and that this was just another way for her to attempt to be in control and I wasn’t going to put up with this kind of shit any more.

I removed myself from the other ridiculous chats such as food (where she updates us with pictures of food they eat and asks us what we’re eating), shopping (where she tells is what she has been buying and shares discounts), COVID updates (where her and her husband share links to news about it) and the rest of them but stayed in the one of the whole family.

SIL sent a message to that group basically calling me out for trying to take over chats and said that she would no longer be participating in family group chats. I replied to say that this wasn’t true and that I was happy to talk to the family but felt that having so many different chats was excessive and pointless when it was easy enough to have a group conversation in one place. I also said about her attempts to police chats being ridiculous. DH backed me up and said that he felt that it was silly to be talking in a chat and then change to a different one if we want to have a conversation about another topic and that everything he would share in the other groups he would share with everyone so didn’t see the point in having different groups. SIL then removed herself from the group and hasn’t spoken since.

Of course DH got a phone call from his mum asking him to apologise to SIL for both me and him. He asked her what we’d done wrong and she said that we (meaning me) had over reacted to what she was saying and she was really only trying to keep everyone talking. DH said that he thought the whole thing was just a pointless argument over nothing at all and didn’t see what we had to apologise for. He asked mil if maybe she would like to discuss SIL’s control issues with her as he is worried about that need to be in charge has got so bad that she feels she needs to police family group chats on WhatsApp. MIL said that SIL wasn’t the problem here and that they’d be waiting when DH and I were ready to make amends.

I’m not surprised that mil has got involved. I think I may have over reacted slightly but years of anger about SIL needing to be in control of everything or make things about her for no reason other than someone else getting attention have obviously built up! I am low contact with her anyway but feel like I just want to be done with her. I love DN though and she wouldn’t allow me to see him if I stopped talking to her or if I didn’t apologise.

Was I being completely unreasonable to say I was done with this shit and to refuse to apologise? Or is it best to just be the bigger person, apologise and move on? The whole thing seems so high school and trivial so maybe it's just lockdown getting to me!

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ReefTeeth · 14/07/2020 23:03

What have I just read 🤯

OP how have you managed for so long?

BluebellCockleshell123 · 14/07/2020 23:19

OMG. I am the organiser in our family and sometimes get a bit of stick from my siblings about being a little controlling but what the fuck have I just read!?!

Your SIL has major issues. A shower schedule!?! Arranging your transport, the parking spots and all the stops on the way!?!

Hilarious that after all that it’s a what’sapp that has broken you.

Please tell us more of her batshittery. Grin

FaceOfASpink · 14/07/2020 23:21

Congratulate yourself on having a falling out. You now need have nothing more to do with her.
Breathe the free air and - distance, distance, distance.

winterisstillcoming · 14/07/2020 23:28

The only way to cope with this situation is taking the Micky out of it.

I've just had spectacular spat with my batshit SIL and I'm just sitting back and letting the fireworks go off. I won't explain because it's too outing and I don't want to derail your thread as I have feeling there's so much more. Be assured that it's definitely her and not you.

justanotherone123 · 14/07/2020 23:40

I really don't know how you've put up with this behaviour for so long. You deserve a medal.

elenacampana · 14/07/2020 23:44

She’s nuts, you’re not. YANBU.

TenShortStories · 15/07/2020 00:15

Asking this genuinely - is she well? That sounds like a lot of stress and fear of relinquishing any level of control to anyone else. She must be so wound up and miserable all day long Shock

I did think you overacted to the whatsapp group a bit, in that blowing up about it gains nothing but more aggro, but the holiday backstory certainly provides extenuating context.

What was their childhood like? Did something happen to her to make her this controlling of everything because it's so... extreme. Her poor child!

Jux · 15/07/2020 00:18

Thank goodness for your dh. How either of you have managed to remain on any sort of terms with such a lunatic is beyond me! You must both be very diplomatic!

pictish · 15/07/2020 00:27

You know it’s perhaps awful to say it but I relish rebelling against people like this. I’d enjoy winding her up by absolutely not doing as I was told.

locked2020 · 15/07/2020 00:29

Proper lunatic. That would drive me insane! You've done well to get this far with her OP!

CharDee · 15/07/2020 00:32

I didn't want to share too much incase it's outing but fuck it. It's all true and if SIL was to read this she might at least see that she is in the wrong! This is the thread from last year about SIL not wanting to tell me about the sex of her baby. Which of course is her choice but she wanted to tell everyone in the family apart from me.

SIL asking DH not to tell me baby's sex www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3644718-sil-asking-dh-not-to-tell-me-baby-s-sex

Also the in the chats last night I wasn't aggressive nor did I blow up at her. I just wrote that it wasn't up to her to police or moderate chats and when she kept on repeating she wanted to "keep track" I said it was ridiculous and that I couldn't put up with that shit anymore.

I think I could have said a lot worse on a number of occasions! I am finding it funny now though that of all things it's WhatsApp that's made me snap.

For those who have questioned her mental health, I do think she's well but I also think that therapy might help her to understand why she has this need to control. She has a very good job and has a lot of staff under her and constantly complains about how she has to manage every aspect of their work but I do doubt that she has to do that and think it's more of a she wants to do that.

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TimeForANewUserNameMethinks · 15/07/2020 00:45

I'm still stuck at that she wanted you to purposely get in a traffic jam so that you would be delayed and therefore arrive at roughly the same time to the holiday place.

Speechless. Priceless Grin

doskant · 15/07/2020 01:11

I’M still stuck that she wanted to time your eating around the dogs. My god she sounds exhausting. I’m exhausted just reading that. She is off the charts loco. YANBU and do not apologise. It’s so sad when families enable a member’s unacceptable behaviour. I’ve seen it so many times and it’s so destructive for everyone. Good luck!

iswhois · 15/07/2020 01:29

I had a similar thing and just turned off all notifications for WhatsApp. I check it every couple of days for anything important but never respond on any of the group chats.

It gives me such bad anxiety. I hate WhatsApp and would do away with it all together if it wasn't for my work.

Well done for saying something!!

Mothership4two · 15/07/2020 01:34

I bet she's a horrible boss. I feel so sorry for her "underlings". She sounds like the female version of Gordon Brittas.

Sounds like she has taken bossy older sister syndrome to the nth degree.

Counselling vouchers for birthday/Christmas presents?

ElaineMarieBenes · 15/07/2020 01:46

She is ultimately destructive and the effects can be devastating. I speak from experience as my ‘BM’ is the same. I found out a week ago that ‘BM’ was supposed (as agreed 5 years ago with my DA) to pass on details of how / where to get a genetic test as was v. high risk re BRCA gene). She did not - I am currently in hospital after surgery waiting to find out If I have stage 3 or stage 4 BC!

Well done for making a stand!

justilou1 · 15/07/2020 05:38

Maybe you should suggest that she get help for her attention deficit problem if she can’t keep track of ONE chat and needs MANY instead.

Happynow001 · 15/07/2020 07:33

@CharDee

I'm joining the new fan club for your DH. Such a refreshing read on here to see a husband fully supporting his wife - and I love his sense of humour. 🌹🍷 for you and 🍻⭐️ for him!

WendyHoused · 15/07/2020 07:55

Oh god, her poor staff. I bet they are micromanaged to death.

Mrbigb · 15/07/2020 08:16

Did the right thing and if she doesn’t participate in chats as she sulking everyone will realise that you don’t need them all.
We have one for everyone and one for the sibs only and that’s all we need.
If she wants to go in about her dinner then she can do that with her DM who is probably the only one interested anyway.
I’d ignore and let it blow over.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 15/07/2020 08:42

Oh. My. GOD.

OP, how you haven’t snapped before now is amazing (although frankly I too would have stayed for the entertainment value). Your SIL is absolutely off the scale.

A shower timetable and expecting you to sit in a traffic jam so as not to disrupt her arrival/parking schedule is absolutely priceless Grin

BedknobsNoBroomsticks · 15/07/2020 09:24

It's nice to hear a husband sticking up for his wife and family. On here it's usually the opposite.

CharDee · 15/07/2020 09:33

@ElaineMarieBenes that's awful. I hope you're ok and have support.

Those joining DH's fab club are more than welcome! We have our ups and downs but I am very lucky that it is mostly ups and he is usually the most supportive husband and brilliant dad. We also have moved our 18 year old niece in with us and he's been brilliant with her and has done everything humanly possible to make her feel welcome. Including letting us gang up on him when we want to order takeaways and pretending to be annoyed at us but I can tell he secretly loves it Grin

I don't know how he's managed to turn out so well looking at MIL and SIL's behaviour!

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Theluggagerules · 15/07/2020 09:35

She sounds horrific to deal with and I'm getting anxious just thinking about the rota Grin I do think though she'll already have set up new group chats excluding you both, and will be trying to get everyone to move onto them.

Nquartz · 15/07/2020 09:43

As PP have said it's just a refreshing change to see a DH who has his wife's back, he'll be a good role model for your son Smile

Please don't apologise to your (crazy) SIL & keep us updated if anything else kicks off Grin

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