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Group chats getting out of hand

292 replies

CharDee · 14/07/2020 11:38

God, this is so unnecessarily long and so ridiculous but I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not crazy to be bothered by this.

I am in a few family group chats on WhatsApp. With my family I have one with my immediate family so parents, siblings and their OH’s, one with just me and my siblings. This is fine and manageable. The siblings chat is usually only ever used if we’re planning presents for our parents and everything else e.g. updates on dc or just general chat goes in our family chat. My brother lives abroad so it’s nice to all chat with him and SIL and share photos.

DH’s family on the other hand is something else. He has a sister and BiL as well as another brother, his wife and their children who live down south. With them we have the following group chats:
⁃ All the family (PILs, SIL and her DH, BIL and DW, me and DH)
⁃ Local family (all of the above apart from BIL and DW)
⁃ Updates on Coronavirus (local family)
⁃ Updates on DS (about our son which is just for local family)
⁃ Sibling chat with SIL, her Dh and me
⁃ Just DH and SIL
⁃ Updates on DN (about SIL’s son which is for all family)
⁃ Shopping (local family)
⁃ Food (local family)
⁃ Updates for all the children (shared with all family)

I hardly speak in them unless asked a question or if I have to tell someone something. All of these chats were made by SIL who has some control issues which I’ve spoken in here about before.

Anyway last night it came to a bit of a head. DH shared a photo in the group of all the family of DS. BIL replied and asked me something, I replied and asked SiL a question about DN. She then responded in the “updates for all children” chat reminding me and DH that this was the group from discussing children. DH just replied and said that it was easier to just talk in chats and not compartmentalise every conversation. SIL replied that it was easier for her to keep track of everything we were talking about if everyone just stuck to the groups. I carried on the conversation with BIL in the original group as normal and was then sent messages from SIL asking me to just follow the group chat agreements (?) this will then make sure she can keep track of everything that is being said. I had to reply telling her that it was not up to her to police our conversations and that I will talk about whatever I want with who I want. She replied saying that she was just trying to make sure everyone followed the correct chats and I just replied telling her she was not a moderator of our chats and that this was just another way for her to attempt to be in control and I wasn’t going to put up with this kind of shit any more.

I removed myself from the other ridiculous chats such as food (where she updates us with pictures of food they eat and asks us what we’re eating), shopping (where she tells is what she has been buying and shares discounts), COVID updates (where her and her husband share links to news about it) and the rest of them but stayed in the one of the whole family.

SIL sent a message to that group basically calling me out for trying to take over chats and said that she would no longer be participating in family group chats. I replied to say that this wasn’t true and that I was happy to talk to the family but felt that having so many different chats was excessive and pointless when it was easy enough to have a group conversation in one place. I also said about her attempts to police chats being ridiculous. DH backed me up and said that he felt that it was silly to be talking in a chat and then change to a different one if we want to have a conversation about another topic and that everything he would share in the other groups he would share with everyone so didn’t see the point in having different groups. SIL then removed herself from the group and hasn’t spoken since.

Of course DH got a phone call from his mum asking him to apologise to SIL for both me and him. He asked her what we’d done wrong and she said that we (meaning me) had over reacted to what she was saying and she was really only trying to keep everyone talking. DH said that he thought the whole thing was just a pointless argument over nothing at all and didn’t see what we had to apologise for. He asked mil if maybe she would like to discuss SIL’s control issues with her as he is worried about that need to be in charge has got so bad that she feels she needs to police family group chats on WhatsApp. MIL said that SIL wasn’t the problem here and that they’d be waiting when DH and I were ready to make amends.

I’m not surprised that mil has got involved. I think I may have over reacted slightly but years of anger about SIL needing to be in control of everything or make things about her for no reason other than someone else getting attention have obviously built up! I am low contact with her anyway but feel like I just want to be done with her. I love DN though and she wouldn’t allow me to see him if I stopped talking to her or if I didn’t apologise.

Was I being completely unreasonable to say I was done with this shit and to refuse to apologise? Or is it best to just be the bigger person, apologise and move on? The whole thing seems so high school and trivial so maybe it's just lockdown getting to me!

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Elastins · 14/07/2020 13:55

I’d be very tempted to ‘see the error of your ways’ and set up tons of new groups to be ‘really helpful’ for her with her keeping track of things and then post enthusiastically in all of them.

You’ve already got Food, COVID Updates, and Shopping, so how about

  • Daily Outfits
  • Cleaning Tips
  • Household Organisation and Wardrobe Tidying Ideas
  • Recycling and Upcycling
  • Pinterest Ideas
  • Home Decor, Birthdays, Christmas, And Miscellaneous Celebrations,
  • Hand-Me-Downs

Have at it.

Make sure you sign post her to each group every time she transgresses.

YANBU. She sounds like a total PITA.

Rosebel · 14/07/2020 13:56

I would be totally confused by that many groups and would probably always be doing it wrong.
It's not up to her to decide you what you can talk about and where. I'm glad you stood up to her and that your partner backed you up.
You should only ever apologise if you've done something wrong and you haven't. If you apologise SIL will just carry on with her entitled attitude. She sounds nasty and controlling anyway so I wouldn't bother with her (obviously your partner might want to but I just wouldn't engage with her anymore).
And tell your MIL to mind her own business but please whatever you do don't apologise.

Spotsandstars · 14/07/2020 13:57

Wow. Jusy wow. I can't imagine having the time to deal with this intense level of interaction from family. It's nuts!!!!!

EwwSprouts · 14/07/2020 13:58

I would just say that I will only post in the all family group as I'm happy to share with everyone and I find it so much easier if all chat is in one place.

SummerCherry · 14/07/2020 14:00

She sounds awful and acting like the family matriarch. And she clearly likes to manipulate her brother and keep you out.

However I’d just mute the groups and let them all implode. As the outsider you will be scapegoated the minute you complain.

AryaStarkWolf · 14/07/2020 14:01

jesus christ your SIL is nuts, no wonder you snapped.....I would let her wait.....and wait...........and wait for that apology

JoyFreeCake · 14/07/2020 14:02

Makes sense to have a big group chat for everyone, and a smaller local family chat for stuff that would clog up the main chat with stuff that isn't relevant to some of its members. But different charts for different topics is just weird. My family's WhatsApp chat is uncategorisable freewheeling chaos, just how we like it.

Fleamaker123 · 14/07/2020 14:03

Sounds like she's got too much time on her hands. Get a life springs to mind.
Do not apologise and pander to her. She sounds spoilt and sulky.
I would tell her you haven't got time to keep up with all the chats she's created, plus all the others you have, and so you're just sticking to the one chat.

Chicchicchicchiclana · 14/07/2020 14:03

Goodness! I speak to my Mum once a week or fortnight on the phone and a few texts in between. My brother about once every other month. My sister and I text each other roughly monthly and see each other once or twice a year. My other two half siblings get a few likes or comments on Facebook.

How can you stand to be so deeply involved in each other's lives? It would drive me nuts Shock.

Chloemol · 14/07/2020 14:04

YANBU. She’s nuts. Personally I would ignore. Carry on posting in the family chat and leave her to it

Aneley · 14/07/2020 14:06

Nope, just nope! What does she do all day if she has time to 'moderate' so many chats??!?!?

I think you're 100% in the right here and I honestly admire your patience not to say something earlier. And hell would freeze over before I'd apologize for something like this - family peace or not.

cantmovewont · 14/07/2020 14:06

SIL has issues - clearly. It doesn't hurt just to follow what she wants if it makes her feel better. Most certainly isn't worth the arguments this is causing.

I have 2 SILs - one in the US and the other one here. The one here can't stand me and there was a whole load of pick me, I'm the favourite, I'm the most important at the beginning of lockdown. I just disengaged. Not worth the upset or angst and if it makes her feel better that she is the most popular SIL then fine. I have enough self worth to not let it get to me.

AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 14/07/2020 14:14

I would take full opportunity at this point to go NC

Bmidreams · 14/07/2020 14:16

Maybe set up a new group called counselling and send her links to local therapists

Grin
Ravenclawgirl · 14/07/2020 14:18

Bloody hell! I thought my DS was controlling!

Ravenclawgirl · 14/07/2020 14:18

whoops DSis!

Sauvignonismysaviour · 14/07/2020 14:20

What an insane situation. I guess your SIL has some underlying issues, to say the least. I'm surprised there's not a chat keeping track of the family's bowel movements...

I wonder if she's sensed your attempts to go low contact and is using these multiple WhatsApp chats to instigate and control more contact. You're very right not to get drawn in. Good luck.

Gumbo · 14/07/2020 14:22

I actually think there's a lots of mileage in this and endless fun to be had at sil's expense

You (in whatever 'inappropriate' chat you choose): Sil, I want to post a pic of what DS cooked today, but I'm finding it tricky - should I post it under the Children chat, or Food?
Sil: Oh, that's easy, Food
You: Hmm, but it's difficult since I also want to tell you about where I bought the ingredients and how much they cost... I think I'll post it under Shopping
Sil: No! that won't work at all! And also, why are we having this conversation under Family? This needs to be under the Whateverthefuck conversation.
You: Really? But I'm also worried that I didn't clean the ingredients well enough when we got home, so perhaps it should be under Coronavirus?

etc Grin

LEELULUMPKIN · 14/07/2020 14:25

@Elastins You forgot "Bowel & Bladder movements" on your excellent list!

BlueJava · 14/07/2020 14:28

YADNBU, having so many groups for different topics sounds bonkers. Personally I am on one (me, DP, our two DS), DP is also on a chat group with his own family which has lots of ppl but I've never joined and don't intend to. They seem fraught with difficulty and people just get upset.

ShitStain · 14/07/2020 14:29

Your sil needs a life.

I bet she has a timer for foreplay, sex and cleanup.

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 14/07/2020 14:46

Omg, just leave ALL of the groups. Job done.

randomer · 14/07/2020 14:47

Could you talk to people? Maybe?

CharDee · 14/07/2020 14:47

@LEELULUMPKIN we did go on holiday with her. It was a fucking nightmare!

We went to a cottage near BIL's when his youngest was born and it coincided with FIL's birthday so had a looooong weekend (4 days but felt like 4 weeks!).

I like the miscellaneous idea!

I would like to go NC but I want DS to have a relationship with his cousin and also I want to see him too. Also BIL is relatively normal and we get on really well, I don't know how he puts up with her!

They are all so involved in each others lives. DH used to be like that but when we got together and he met my family he fully embraced the idea of being close with your family but having your own life!

MIL is an enabler and loves to get involved in everything she can. She is a worrier and escalates situations that nobody else would think twice about!

So glad it's not just me who thinks the sheer number of groups was excessive and that SIL was BU!

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LEELULUMPKIN · 14/07/2020 14:48

@ShitStain and a penis beaker!