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Group chats getting out of hand

292 replies

CharDee · 14/07/2020 11:38

God, this is so unnecessarily long and so ridiculous but I think I just need some reassurance that I’m not crazy to be bothered by this.

I am in a few family group chats on WhatsApp. With my family I have one with my immediate family so parents, siblings and their OH’s, one with just me and my siblings. This is fine and manageable. The siblings chat is usually only ever used if we’re planning presents for our parents and everything else e.g. updates on dc or just general chat goes in our family chat. My brother lives abroad so it’s nice to all chat with him and SIL and share photos.

DH’s family on the other hand is something else. He has a sister and BiL as well as another brother, his wife and their children who live down south. With them we have the following group chats:
⁃ All the family (PILs, SIL and her DH, BIL and DW, me and DH)
⁃ Local family (all of the above apart from BIL and DW)
⁃ Updates on Coronavirus (local family)
⁃ Updates on DS (about our son which is just for local family)
⁃ Sibling chat with SIL, her Dh and me
⁃ Just DH and SIL
⁃ Updates on DN (about SIL’s son which is for all family)
⁃ Shopping (local family)
⁃ Food (local family)
⁃ Updates for all the children (shared with all family)

I hardly speak in them unless asked a question or if I have to tell someone something. All of these chats were made by SIL who has some control issues which I’ve spoken in here about before.

Anyway last night it came to a bit of a head. DH shared a photo in the group of all the family of DS. BIL replied and asked me something, I replied and asked SiL a question about DN. She then responded in the “updates for all children” chat reminding me and DH that this was the group from discussing children. DH just replied and said that it was easier to just talk in chats and not compartmentalise every conversation. SIL replied that it was easier for her to keep track of everything we were talking about if everyone just stuck to the groups. I carried on the conversation with BIL in the original group as normal and was then sent messages from SIL asking me to just follow the group chat agreements (?) this will then make sure she can keep track of everything that is being said. I had to reply telling her that it was not up to her to police our conversations and that I will talk about whatever I want with who I want. She replied saying that she was just trying to make sure everyone followed the correct chats and I just replied telling her she was not a moderator of our chats and that this was just another way for her to attempt to be in control and I wasn’t going to put up with this kind of shit any more.

I removed myself from the other ridiculous chats such as food (where she updates us with pictures of food they eat and asks us what we’re eating), shopping (where she tells is what she has been buying and shares discounts), COVID updates (where her and her husband share links to news about it) and the rest of them but stayed in the one of the whole family.

SIL sent a message to that group basically calling me out for trying to take over chats and said that she would no longer be participating in family group chats. I replied to say that this wasn’t true and that I was happy to talk to the family but felt that having so many different chats was excessive and pointless when it was easy enough to have a group conversation in one place. I also said about her attempts to police chats being ridiculous. DH backed me up and said that he felt that it was silly to be talking in a chat and then change to a different one if we want to have a conversation about another topic and that everything he would share in the other groups he would share with everyone so didn’t see the point in having different groups. SIL then removed herself from the group and hasn’t spoken since.

Of course DH got a phone call from his mum asking him to apologise to SIL for both me and him. He asked her what we’d done wrong and she said that we (meaning me) had over reacted to what she was saying and she was really only trying to keep everyone talking. DH said that he thought the whole thing was just a pointless argument over nothing at all and didn’t see what we had to apologise for. He asked mil if maybe she would like to discuss SIL’s control issues with her as he is worried about that need to be in charge has got so bad that she feels she needs to police family group chats on WhatsApp. MIL said that SIL wasn’t the problem here and that they’d be waiting when DH and I were ready to make amends.

I’m not surprised that mil has got involved. I think I may have over reacted slightly but years of anger about SIL needing to be in control of everything or make things about her for no reason other than someone else getting attention have obviously built up! I am low contact with her anyway but feel like I just want to be done with her. I love DN though and she wouldn’t allow me to see him if I stopped talking to her or if I didn’t apologise.

Was I being completely unreasonable to say I was done with this shit and to refuse to apologise? Or is it best to just be the bigger person, apologise and move on? The whole thing seems so high school and trivial so maybe it's just lockdown getting to me!

OP posts:
Morred · 14/07/2020 13:14

Another idea: just post in the main chat, but put a bold heading at the top of each post.

Topic: my lunch
We had toast and soup.

Topic: controlling behaviours
Helpful list of links

Topic: kids these days
Picture of adorable small person drawing on the walls.

etc.

Nomorepies · 14/07/2020 13:15

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on the poster's request.

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 14/07/2020 13:15

Ignore her and keep chatting on the Family chat. She'll either just join in again or make a new group without you. Whichever way she goes she looks like a twat.

Ilovecharliecat · 14/07/2020 13:18

hatmustbenigelwiththebrie Tue 14-Jul-20 13:11:53

Why don't you make a new chat called "Miscellaneous". Then just use that one. She can't complain it's not relevant.

This sounds like a plan!

Pebblexox · 14/07/2020 13:22

Absolutely not. I have on family chat (mum sisters) one mini family (nieces and nephews and sisters) then a friendship group chat on WhatsApp. Having just three different groups stresses me out 😂
Yanbu. Do not apologise, you've done nothing wrong.

ChicCroissant · 14/07/2020 13:22

I can see why you flipped out of frustration really, but I'd have ignored her messages and just kept chatting on the one. Don't engage with the batshittery, just ignore it where possible. It can be difficult, but don't be drawn in to an argument, it takes two to argue and without the fuel (of the other person biting back) there is no fire!

I bet she's back in the group by tonight ....

ChicCroissant · 14/07/2020 13:23

Forgot to say, I don't think an apology is needed.

And this is why I deleted WhatsApp, after being added to a group I didn't want to be in! You can change the settings to prevent that now. I'd make sure she can't add you to any groups.

Bbang · 14/07/2020 13:26

Given your updates of what she’s done over the years would I chuff be apologising to her. I wouldn’t have anyway but still lol . .

p00p · 14/07/2020 13:26

If I didn't know better I would have thought you were talking about my daughter-in-law.

I feel for you.

Devlocopop · 14/07/2020 13:28

MIL said that SIL wasn’t the problem here and that they’d be waiting when DH and I were ready to make amends

Clearly she knows SIL is the problem and by the sounds of it is used to stamping her feet and getting her own way. Well done to your Dh for challenging his Mum on his sister's behaviour.

I think he needs to ask her again what is was that you did wrong. I think you did nothing wrong. She is a control freak.

milveycrohn · 14/07/2020 13:33

Far too many groups.
Withdraw yourself from the food and shopping groups for a start.
Then select one group and use that

LittleDonk · 14/07/2020 13:33

She's barking! Why do you need so many chats for the same group of people?

And how is it her business that you were planning to visit someone else??

PhilSwagielka · 14/07/2020 13:35

YANBU, she sounds nucking futz and there's no way most people would be able to keep track or all those different chats.

Nemchangetoday · 14/07/2020 13:35

WOW

Odd - OTT - Controlling

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 14/07/2020 13:38

Fucking hell your SIL is Monica Geller!

Mumratheevergiving · 14/07/2020 13:42

Sounds like your husband is the only sane one in his family. As the saying goes you can choose your friends...

LEELULUMPKIN · 14/07/2020 13:44

Absolutely bonkers! How bloody boring. I'm amazed you stuck it as long as you did OP.

There is a very good reason I don't have a mobile phone/texting/facebook/instagram/whatsapp and the like....

This would be my worst nightmare.

Iloveyoutothefridgeandback · 14/07/2020 13:44

We have a family WhatsApp group specifically for pictures of my kids. We do it because we are immigrants so most of our family have never met them but really want to be involved and see how they are doing. Sometimes the chat strays onto other topics and I don't mind. It's weird that someone would police it so heavily.

And who the fuck makes a group for what food they have been eating? Sounds absolutely awful And I'm amazed that you put up with that for as long as you did.

If she's left the group chat then that's great. You don't need to listen to her nonsense anymore

LEELULUMPKIN · 14/07/2020 13:44

Oh God I've just thought.....imagine having to go on holiday with these people!!!

Jux · 14/07/2020 13:47

It's jolly silly. I wouldn't make any sort of announcement - like you're only going to chat on one group and you don't like being policed or whatever. Just only chat in one group. If she tells you to chat in another group because the group you've chosen to chat in is teh wrrong one, ignore her and continue chatting with everyone else.

I bet a lot of them agree with you, and this will start a rebellion!

SwedishK · 14/07/2020 13:47

You are a saint!

I don't even have WhatsApp. I just call my family members once a week or so and get my updates that way. I really don't need to know what they eat for dinner etc. Your SIL has got a serious case of FOMO and she needs to relax.

winterisstillcoming · 14/07/2020 13:50

Well done for getting away from her. My SILs are like this. The best way to get a break from them is fall out over something inconsequential and then get on with your life. Enjoy the peace and quiet. Even though it won't be acknowledged, the chances are the rest of the family think she's batshit too. They probably are just too scared to say it.

labyrinthloafer · 14/07/2020 13:52

I could barely follow the post so no idea how you keep track of all that WhatsApp activity!

It all sounds too draining.

The bit I think is horrid is not defining you as family. I would just step away tbh, don't bother with WhatsApp with them any more.

monkeymonkey2010 · 14/07/2020 13:54

what she's doing is 'triangulating' in a sense.
She's ensuring that she is in charge/control of all communications between family members.
That all group coherence relies on appeasing her.....so when she throws a strop people will do as she says to keep the peace.

It sounds like MIL is encouraging SIL to take over as 'matriarch of the clan' Grin
My own mum n sis are like this - and my sis is exactly the same re whatsapp chats Grin
In fact, i got booted out of the family one and everyone was 'told' one way or the other to not talk to me.

Good on you and DH for standing your ground with her.....be prepared to do the same with everyone else if they dare try to 'tell' you what to do.

OddSox123 · 14/07/2020 13:55

Jeeeess, how many chats??!! I dont know how you didnt loose it before :-)! She sounds like an absolute control freak bunny boiler, dont rise to it and remove yourself from the chats that dont mean anything to you