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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think the majority of you are fatphobic?

414 replies

Beebee8 · 12/07/2020 19:18

Just that.

OP posts:
Beebee8 · 12/07/2020 21:01

@Auntydarah a support thread sounds excellent!

OP posts:
Jellykat · 12/07/2020 21:03

I wouldn't say i'm fat 'phobic' as such, but i do have a problem with obese people and that includes men with moobs.. for two reasons.
Firstly i have suffered from anorexia in my teens, and i still have a problem with food, eating in public and seeing other people eat generally.. and secondly my abusive ex was heavily overweight he used to shovel food into his mouth like there was no tomorrow, entitled to eat everything and anything. Even when he had a heart attack and 3 stents put in, he still didn't exercise to build up his heart muscles again, because unlike everyone else in that position, he didn't need to. So i do have a problem with people who eat too much i'm afraid.

hamstersarse · 12/07/2020 21:03

I think I’ve been described as sizeist on here but I don’t agree that I am sizeist against individual people.

What I am is really cross that we’ve allowed such a health disaster to happen due to bad science and bad policy, meaning people are so ill informed about weight.

  • the calories fixation has damaged us. It is only part of the story. The amount of times I see on here that “it’s simple, put more calories in than you need and you’ll get fat”. This is only partially true. It matters what calories are made of and when you eat them.
  • the demonisation of fat has been a disaster, which started in the 80s. Take the fat out of everything and it tastes like shit....so food manufacturers put in sugar. Disaster. People constantly hungry and with raised blood sugars (leading to T2D)
  • the food triangle is literally the wrong way round
  • the unregulated sale of processed junk is a scandal. This food literally poisons us ( and has addictive qualities) yet it is sold on every corner and advertised freely to children. This is a scandal of smoking proportions

When I see a fat person, it makes me angry...but not at them. Just at the mess we have created in our food environment

Clevererthanyou · 12/07/2020 21:04

YABU op. It’s not a phobia, it’s genuine disgust sprinkled with scorn. It’s everywhere on here. Fatties are t last bastion of acceptable hatred.

tiredanddangerous · 12/07/2020 21:04

Not necessarily fat phobia just a complete lack of understanding. The "just eat less and move more" brigade usually come out in full force on related threads. They don't realise that it's a hell of a lot more complicated than that. It's just ignorance really.

Heyhih3 · 12/07/2020 21:06

I don’t think your title is the correct word. IF somebody has a health condition causing them to be fat then that’s different. However they are many people that are delusional about weight I have just read a thread tonight and somebody stated they are not huge... they are size ##. Honestly I think one thing is to be fat but to inflict this on your children is really unfair and then parents have the cheek to moan about their kids that end up over weight.

Zoecarter · 12/07/2020 21:07

@h3av3n

Nobody is slim at a size 16, sorry but that's delusional. That's a 33 inch waist... Even if you're very tall a size 16 is unhealthy...
If you are above 5ft 4 it’s actually in the healthy range
uglyduck · 12/07/2020 21:08

[quote Beebee8]**@Auntydarah a support thread sounds excellent![/quote]
If you start a support thread, can I join too please!

@Auntydarah Your post explained things so well and really resonated with me - thank you!

uglyduck · 12/07/2020 21:09

[quote Beebee8]**@Auntydarah a support thread sounds excellent![/quote]
If you start a support thread, can I join too please!

@Auntydarah Your post explained things so well and really resonated with me - thank you!

PurpleDaisies · 12/07/2020 21:09

If you are above 5ft 4 it’s actually in the healthy range

Not necessarily. I’m 5 7 and if I was a 16 my BMI would definitely be in the overweight/obese category because I’ve got small bone structure.

NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 12/07/2020 21:09

Looks awful, unhealthy, no respect for yourself or others and huge strain on NHS.

I'm fat. Can you explain why I have no respect for myself? I like food. There are worse things I could put in my body.

You are not a better person than me because you are slim

Teateaandmoretea · 12/07/2020 21:12

Yeah I’m not convinced many women could be a 16 at healthy weight range either. I’m 5’10 and would be overweight at 16 (and have been post dc). But equally it wouldn’t be obese either for me.

DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 12/07/2020 21:12

I do not judge fat people

But I really do not want to be fat. I probably am a bit scared of being fat, in all honesty I dont have great self control and I struggle to lose weight.

I have gained weight (around 1 st) in lockdown and now im a size 12 and I hate it. My clothes dont look good, and dont sit right. My jeans dig in. My thighs rub and jiggle. Its so much more effort to move my body, I am more tired. I hate how i look without clothes on. I think ive also lost muscle from not going to the gym

I think some people feel a sense of superiority in being slim, which I absolutely dont do. I wish I could accept my body. But at the same time being fat is not healthy, and its not a good thing. I see overweight peiple in their 60s/70s on 20 odd meds a day - i dont want that

Paradiseinportugal · 12/07/2020 21:13

Someone's weight in and of itself
Anyone that uses this expression is a self important numpty. Just saying.

FreakStar · 12/07/2020 21:13

I think the reason that being 'sizeist' is seen as ok is because, unlike race, sexual orientation, sex, disability and class etc., which nobody has any control over, you do have a degree of control over how fat you get.

Helendee · 12/07/2020 21:18

OP

I know exactly what you mean as does everyone else on this thread.
I’ve been big for most of my life and had countless insults thrown my way because of it.
The term ‘Fat phobia’ is perfectly valid, I don’t see jokes about homophobia or xenophobia though.

bluebeck · 12/07/2020 21:21

If you are above 5ft 4 it’s actually in the healthy range

That's absolute bollocks. I am 5ft 5 and when I was a size 14/16 I was obese. Not overweight - obese.

FreakStar · 12/07/2020 21:26

I'm 5'7" and a size 12 and only just in the healthy weight range.

Spied · 12/07/2020 21:27

I like fat people. You'd probably class me as one myself - at 5'2 size 14.
I was once a size 18 so I've no room to judge- nor would I.

FishOnPillows · 12/07/2020 21:29

I think fat/overweight/obese people deserve just as much as anyone else - human rights, to be treated with respect, seek happiness, etc.

But I don’t think they’re healthy; while not everyone who is a ‘normal’ BMI is healthy, I think being overweight precludes any idea of being healthy.

I’ve been in a few fat positive groups over the years, and they were full of people getting angry at being embarrassed that they don’t fit in airplane seats or rollercoaster rides, and getting angry at doctors who suggested if they lost weight their back/knee pain might improve. Both sets of people are utterly ridiculous in my mind. The health ones especially - the doctor is giving you solid health advice, advice which has a solid clinical base, but you don’t want to do it because you’re proud to be fat?! What are you actually expecting them to say or do then?

I say all this as someone who was morbidly obese - I too used to brush off how much my weight was affecting my health. Then I lost ten stone and so much pain has gone, and my blood pressure is down into a perfectly healthy range.

Clevererthanyou · 12/07/2020 21:30

I wonder if any fat bashing posters here know the effect that their opinions have on people? There will be vulnerable (fat/obese/morbidly obese) people reading this thread and hearing what is being said: that fat = inhuman. This total lack of empathy does not serve to boost people’s willpower or trigger them to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! it quite often does the opposite. The fatties will continue to feel not good enough and total failures and then binge eat sugar/carbs/junk to make themselves feel better while hiding indoors where nobody can see them because they’re so ashamed and so the cycle continues. I know this because I’ve lived it. I’m disabled and being fat as fuck was not my choice 😡

woodlandwalker · 12/07/2020 21:33

I'm 5'3" and size 14/16 and my BMI is under 25. I am not very slim but not considered overweight so those saying size 16 is unhealthily fat are wrong.

barefootmalbec · 12/07/2020 21:35

'Fatties are t last bastion of acceptable hatred.'

Not here. That's Tory voters GrinGrinGrin

frumpety · 12/07/2020 21:35

Being morbidly obese is a lot harder work than being slim. Everything you do is going to be more of an effort for every single system in your body, from muscoskeletal to cardiovascular to your poor squished up digestive tract.
There are people who are overweight and fit, I know a couple of overweight people who can quite easily run a half marathon. There is a huge difference between someone who is overweight by a couple of stone and some who is carrying an extra 8-10 stone. I am in the latter group, but have been a bit overweight , overweight, obese and morbidly obese. Each increase makes it harder and harder to do everyday tasks like put your socks on , cut your toenails, get up off the floor etc
Being this size isn't an easy option, I still have to go to work, which involves getting up and down from a kneeling position a lot, still have to do all the things a slim person does, I just do them all carrying an extra 10 stone of cells around.
Call me any name you like, but do it with a couple of rucksacks carrying 30kg on your front and back for a few days before you do Smile

GrumpyHoonMain · 12/07/2020 21:37

Nobody here is fat phobic. We aren’t scared of fat people or being fat we just actively choose not to be to ensure we are in the best health (and live for as long as) possible. Everybody should respect their bodies and lives this way.

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