Is being a short man equivalent to a women who is overweight?

[DreamChaser23]

i had this discussion with someone and I feel there is some truth in it.

Men who are overweight get away a lot more than women who are overweight I.e. relationships aren't as negatively affected compared to women.

And short women in height don't suffer as much as short men. Just look at how the media made people believe that most ideal men are meant to be tall over 6 feet. When in reality the average height of men is around 5 foot 9 IN the US and 5 foot 10 UK.

Being a short man and a women who is overweight does make it harder when it comes to relationships

but that doesn't mean they are physically ugly

No, it doesnt affect their physical look, but it affects their "perceived attractiveness", so, when I then think of that person afterwards, instead of thinking "damn he looked so good- he's so attractive", I'd just think, "wow i cant believe he was so rude and arrogant to the waiter" etc
That kind of thing

@Raella50

I know what you mean!!! I think short men experience similar rejection to fat women. Also unsuccessful (career-wise) men and ugly women.

Agree with this.

EVen if they have qual8fications neither is going to be pushed forward by others. They have to do that themselves. All career victories will be hard won

I still think, and will always think, that women who are 5'1" - 5'4" and yet all say "I want someone 6'0 and over" need to realise they should be on their A game physically and chat wise, because their "requirements" also place them in the 90% of women seeking dates. And that means you have serious competition.

FWIW I'm 6'1" and actually the shortest bloke on the male side of my family as my mother is short!

But when I looked at online profiles and I saw someone write "only talk blokes need apply" I would just inwardly cringe... here's another 5'2" "bubbly" bottle blond who is limiting herself to a category within which there is serious competition.

I don't discriminate on height. My DW is very petite, but I met her through friends and wasn't getting out the tape measure. Before I seemed to use to date taller women, 5'8" and above. I never "specified" this though.

There's a lot of female profiles online demanding cheques that their balance can't cash basically.

Or writing cheques even!

@GinDaddyRedux

I still think, and will always think, that women who are 5'1" - 5'4" and yet all say "I want someone 6'0 and over" need to realise they should be on their A game physically and chat wise, because their "requirements" also place them in the 90% of women seeking dates. And that means you have serious competition.

FWIW I'm 6'1" and actually the shortest bloke on the male side of my family as my mother is short!

But when I looked at online profiles and I saw someone write "only talk blokes need apply" I would just inwardly cringe... here's another 5'2" "bubbly" bottle blond who is limiting herself to a category within which there is serious competition.

I don't discriminate on height. My DW is very petite, but I met her through friends and wasn't getting out the tape measure. Before I seemed to use to date taller women, 5'8" and above. I never "specified" this though.

There's a lot of female profiles online demanding cheques that their balance can't cash basically.

Interesting but when I was doing online dated i tried to reduce my height "requirements".

It didnt make my searches any more successful though there are more extremes online. More really tall men and more really short men.

Men dont care if you're 5'1. They care that you're slim, attractive, good company.

But then i dont know how many mens searches i fell outside of, for being short.

I think my age counted against me WAY more.
I was only really interested in a man my own age but that was indeed like pushing water uphill. They dated you long enough for you to think you might be a thing then moved on.

Gave up. Met somebody tall and younger in rl.

I think men on line overvalue themselves.

No 50 yr old short fat guy looks for a short fat 50 yr old! Not even a slim 50 year old!

Such is life and OLD.

So glad i gave up on that.

Tall wasnt an issue for me. I feel a bit dwarfed by too tall men.

I think men on line overvalue themselves

Yeah they definitely do. I have a couple of single friends doing OLD now and both are very attractive, successful women in their 40s, in great shape etc. The only interest they get is very young men in their early 20s wanting a cougar! The 40 year old men in their age group are all overweight, balding and want slim, blonde, 20 year olds!

I'm short and fat. I have only dated really tall guys though (I am 5'2 and both ex husbands over 6')

Not through choice I should have added, just chance

It is really hard being a short man. So many men have said this to me. You can have an ugly face and all kinds of other stuff, be overweight, but if you are tall and a man it really helps you get women.

I know that there are exceptions, and short men do often eventually find a GF. However it is a lot harder.

I feel bad as I now only go for tall men! I’m a bit ashamed about it. My first long term relationship was with a short man, and it was fine, I never even ‘saw’ his height, until I wore heels and realized that I was taller in them so never wore them again!

However we broke up, and I became more sexually confident after I’d picked myself up. I had some fantastic affairs with tall, strong men and honestly the sex was so much better in most (not all) cases, something about the physicality, that I now only date tall men. Sorry!

Seriously ladies - give us shorties a chance - Nobody wants us, so the chances of us having the opportunity to stray is even smaller than we are!!

SomeoneM was that on your dating profile? If not, it should be .

I had some fantastic affairs with tall, strong men and honestly the sex was so much better in most (not all) cases, something about the physicality, that I now only date tall men. Sorry!

Huh?! I get the strong part, but how does height help with sex? Maybe I’m doing it wrong, but there’s not one position where a tall DP would help me to enjoy it more! In fact I can think of a couple where it would be an absolute disadvantage.

Yuri Gagarin was chosen for the mission in part because he was extremely capable...but so were numerous other cosmonauts. It was his good looks, winning smile, and the fact that at 5'2", he fitted inside the space capsule.

@MarkRuffaloCrumble

I get the feeling she wasn't talking about the height enhancing the actual physical sex.

It's more the feeling of being enveloped, having someone tall and strong.. perhaps it's the psychology of it all rather than any physiology

There's a lot of female profiles online demanding cheques that their balance can't cash basically.

Thank god there are no balding pot-bellied accountants in their 50s thinking they have a chance with attractive women in their 20s!

[quote GinDaddyRedux]@MarkRuffaloCrumble

I get the feeling she wasn't talking about the height enhancing the actual physical sex.

It's more the feeling of being enveloped, having someone tall and strong.. perhaps it's the psychology of it all rather than any physiology[/quote]
Sorry for the double post, but if we've come right round to it again...

"I’ve asked around, and the most common explanation I get for female height preference is that they like to feel “surrounded.” They want to hug someone bigger than them, lie next to someone large, someone who can put their arms around them and really…surround. So then I had to ask around and find out what the fuckthatmeant. The best I could come up with is that tall men make women feel protected. Comforted, cozy, and looked out for. Height, apparently, subconsciously offers that. It better be subconscious, because I’m 6’2″ and I’ll tell you right now ladies, I ain’t protecting you from shit. If a murderer, or a burglar, or even a strong wind should enter your room in the middle of the night, me and my 74 inches are getting the hell out of there. At least a short guy can fit under the bed, so there’s a decent chance you’ll have someone to hide with. I’d keep that in mind."

itsnotamatch.com/2011/03/29/women-vs-short-guys-datings-fiercest-battleground/

itsnotamatch.com/2011/10/07/women-vs-short-guys-revisited/

@MarkRuffaloCrumble

I had some fantastic affairs with tall, strong men and honestly the sex was so much better in most (not all) cases, something about the physicality, that I now only date tall men. Sorry!

Huh?! I get the strong part, but how does height help with sex? Maybe I’m doing it wrong, but there’s not one position where a tall DP would help me to enjoy it more! In fact I can think of a couple where it would be an absolute disadvantage.

I don’t know exactly how the tallness helped with sex - but once I’d had a few really great experiences it was honestly hard to go back. It’s the feeling of someone taller and bigger than me I guess?

That is not to say that ALL tall me were amazing in bed. Had a few really rubbish ones! And a few smaller guys who were brilliant too - they just had that sex appeal.

However, there was just ‘something’ about a tall strong guy, didn’t have to be mega muscles - that gave sex an extra ‘ooooo’!!!

I actually feel that it’s going to do me no good now. I’m ruined! So many lovely smaller guys around. But I really don’t want to go for them anymore. And I”m not sure I am ‘A’ Game enough to compete - like a previous poster said. We woman who only go for tall men are really missing out as 90% of women are competing for the tall ones!

And yes... had long term relationship with sexy tall guy who... you’ve guessed it... ended up cheating with me and I know that his tall physique was his main attractive feature (he wasn’t typically good looking, but boy did he have women flocking!) Arrrghhh...

Indeed IcedPurple!

Yeah Gin, I can see why the feeling of being enveloped in a big strong man’s arms is important, but an extra couple of inches on his legs would do nothing for me!

@ShebaShimmyShake ha ha hilarious! Probably a lot of truth in it too.

Also, tall men are more likely to come from ‘good stock’ as in wealth and been fed well. That is a fact! Taller men are more likely to live longer and earn more. Generations of being better fed.

Agree that its sexy to feel enveloped and overpowered in a physical sense. I find large muscular bodies very attractive.
Its nice to feel you can be flung around effortlessly without someone needing a chiropractor afterwards 😂

I once had a friend who was a little taller than I was, but only a couple of inches or so; a little below average height for a man. And very skinny. He had a crush on me that I didn't return, much as I liked him. But the day he lifted up the end of the sofa that I was sitting on, making me slip all the way down to the bottom, and then picked me up in an effortless fireman's lift, I damn near succumbed. He was a smallish man but he had a surprising wiry strength that I hadn't realised he possessed. You can be surprised...

Ah, now I'm thinking of the time my husband swept me up over the threshold, started carrying me to the bedroom and my head and feet banged against the walls on either side of the door.

As I said before though tall men tend to be skinny rather than muscular. And when they are muscular they usually look like the BFG.

When was the last time you saw a tall, naturally muscular man (no steroids) that was actually handsome, well dressed and had hair? They're like unicorns!

I agree, all the tall men online were kind of gangly and thin.

I know I keep going on about online, but you do see patterns emerge.