Is anyone else boycotting Tesco's for giving £80,000 to Mermaids?

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Just that really... I was shocked, especially given all the news coverage there has been about the issues recently. I would have expected them to give it to an uncontroversial charity at the very least - and ideally one that most of their customers would like to support

*@Winesalot I really feel for the transwomen who just want to live the life they've chosen for themselves, alongside everyone else. They aren't interested in being women, they know they're not women but they accept themselves as transwomen and ask for that acceptance from others. I don't have the slightest issue with that.

If there is ultimately a backlash caused by the TRA ideology it will impact on them as well and that's so unfair.

If it transphobic, please report it

What was that in response to? The rainbow stuffed ears comment?
Do you miss the homophobic reference in it which we were referring to?
It's just gobsmacking how people refuse to see even when it's pointed out

It manages to whistle at both transphobia and homophobia, which is pretty impressive going

It's just gobsmacking how people refuse to see even when it's pointed out

Maybe, just maybe, they can't see it because...it isn't there!

(I used to have a neighbour who complained about me playing the bongos in the middle of the night, turned out to be his central-heating system ) Anyway, that's not relevant to Mermaids...

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

If it transphobic, please report it

What was that in response to? The rainbow stuffed ears comment?
Do you miss the homophobic reference in it which we were referring to?
It's just gobsmacking how people refuse to see even when it's pointed out

Yeah. Sure. I was directly referencing the post above talking yet again how transphobic MN was. But you continue your line of posting.

And while you are at it, how about some specific post examples of posts on the FWR boards that are not deleted that fit your personal definition of transphobia, Lemonade.

Maybe, just maybe, they can't see it because...it isn't there! shock.

More that they agree with transphobia than it not being there. I see your same argument from racism deniers

Maybe, just maybe, they can't see it because...it isn't there!

Ooookay. If you say so.
Hands up anyone else who can see the problem with the comment dismissing dissenting opinions as having rainbow stuffed ears?

I see your same argument from racism deniers

A million times this. It's exactly the same. Just will not, or can't accept - just get "it's not there, what you talking about?"
Um... all you can say to that is "OK, if you say so."

No I think when it comes to ANY medical procedure on children that parents have a responsibility to look into the risks involved from all sides.

But you seemed to be saying that the responsibility lay with the parents if the child went ahead with life-changing drugs/surgery and that this might happen if they consulted Mermaids without taking other options into account.

It doesn’t seem to me that any organisation which could lead to such dreadful consequences is something that most parents (or most people) would support.

Would you agree that the CEO of Mermaids having taken her child abroad for surgery which was (and remains) illegal in the UK might lead her to want to ‘normalise’ drastic treatment of other children? And that such an organisation might well take an unnecessarily biased or extreme approach to children who were confused about sex and gender?

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

Rainbow stuffed in their ears?

Well folks, not only do you now have a clear example of transphobia, this post also hits the homophobic tick box

This, I mean just done an actual !
What's rainbows in this context? I;m guessing not clap for NHS?
So it must be - LGBT?
I quite like the idea of rainbows coming out of my ears.
Can I have dancing unicorns too, I like them

It means they feel you're not listening to anything to anyone is saying and it's like you have something stuffed in your ears.

Given the subject of discussion, they've speculated if the thing you stuffed in there so you don't have to listen is some rainbows. I'm visualising pride flags.

We're talking about transphobia again.
This thread is about mermaids and its endorsement by Tesco.
Why cant we talk about that?
Why have none of the people that have made so many posts on this tread about mermaids answered my comments about Dr Webberly and what Susie Green did to her child.
You want to blame the parents, im blaming her.
And im wondering why anyone is happy to defend her and her gross charity pushing others in the same direction via a struck off doctor.

Hands up anyone else who can see the problem with the comment dismissing dissenting opinions as having rainbow stuffed ears?

It’s about on the same level as calling MNers “Karens” i.e. ignorable.

If Greyt is looking to assign blame, then firstly that suggests things are indeed going wrong and perhaps Mermaids is controversial for a good reason.

Safeguarding exists to avoid blame - by preventing the risks in the first place.

Mermaids actively recommends things to families, schools and children that go against every safeguarding principle that has been agreed upon by society and experts, whilst using skewed suicide stats as a stick to beat parents with. So parents feel they're risking their kids' lives if they don't do as Mermaids recommend.

If even one child goes through life-changing surgery and regrets it, this is too many and it doesn't matter if parents should be parenting better because they're not the ones providing access to drugs and medical treatments from supposed 'experts' that in general we as a society default to on the basis that they're meant to know better than we do.

Thinkingabout1t indeed My god, ItsLateHumpty -- this garbage is posted on wikihow as how to determine if your child is transgender? it’s scary and awful and ‘normal’, and I’m so sorry for the children we’re failing.

@GreytExpectations and @LemonadeAndDaisyChains as posters who I thought might actually ‘listen’ I’m disappointed that you neither acknowledged or even saw my posts asking for collaboration, or at least a conversation. You seemed to be much more interested in ‘gotcha’ which is sad when we’re talking about medicating children.

@2BthatUnnoticed hey I’m a name change but I’m very happy to see you. Hope you’re OK.

@Ninkanink hahah hope you got some sun ☀️

Rufus KOKO

P.S. you've already said that you can't hate women because you are one.

Well, I'm right here, to say that post was not bloody disablist, and I can use the exact same argument to support it.

It means they feel you're not listening to anything to anyone is saying and it's like you have something stuffed in your ears.

Yes, I know - why rainbows though?
Bloody hell.
It's actually gobsmacking - as I said, dog whistly, kind of gaslighting to boot - "It didn't mean that, it meant this!"
To make you doubt yourself.
I and others can bloody read, and can see how it comes across.

blubellsarebells

apologies blubells. You are right again.

What's that.... crickets are loud tonight?

More that they agree with transphobia than it not being there. I see your same argument from racism deniers

As it is with misogyny deniers.

Still nothing to say about mermaids signposting desperate and vulnerable people to Dr webberly lemonade?
Thought not.

Oh and by the by @LemonadeAndDaisyChains your comments here and on FWR are by your own admission transphobic, or transphobic adjacent so I hope you’ve realised or will realise soon that your posting on MN is actually adding to the transphobia on this site, and proving the actuations MN is transphobic.

Yes, I know - why rainbows though?

Why not? It was a throwaway comment, talk about making a meal of something.

Oh and by the by @LemonadeAndDaisyChains your comments here and on FWR are by your own admission transphobic

OK, you've really lost me now. You mean because I know you can't biologically change sex? That doesn't stop me accepting trans women as women though. They're legally seen as female even if you don't like that fact.

Why not? It was a throwaway comment

Telling it was rainbows though..... hardly "throwaway"

So either Mermaids are an invaluable resource for parents and children and provide an important service - in which case they also have to be held accountable for their advice
Or Mermaids don't really matter at all, they have no influence, it's all up to parents - in which case, why are they existing and need to be funded?