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State school teachers moonlighting as private tutors during their 'working' hours

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UmbrellaHat · 05/07/2020 13:21

Should be sacked
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/state-school-teachers-moonlighting-private-22303681

OP posts:
user1487194234 · 05/07/2020 13:23

Quite a few 5th years I know are having tutoring from teachers
I didn't know it wasn't allowed

JudithGrimesHat · 05/07/2020 13:25

It should be pointed out that the article says it’s a small minority, before everyone starts jumping on teachers.

StealthPolarBear · 05/07/2020 13:27

They should be sacked. But I doubt it's more than a few

EmperorCovidula · 05/07/2020 13:30

A lot of schools aren’t bothering with online learning anyway. I’m sure that if they had the option of actually teaching their pupils they’d be doing that but if you’ve got nothing to do all day why wouldn’t you do this?

hashtagbollocks · 05/07/2020 13:32

Gosh, doesn't quite fit with the "we're on our knees!" narrative, does it?

Jellycatspyjamas · 05/07/2020 13:33

Because you are contracted not to?

hashtagbollocks · 05/07/2020 13:34

so how come they can't do zoom lessons for their state pupils?

Letseatgrandma · 05/07/2020 13:35

The only teachers I know tutoring over Zoom are people that did tutoring anyway. They are still doing their normal teaching jobs.

I bet this not very widespread.

SmileEachDay · 05/07/2020 13:36

A minority of state school teachers have today been condemned for moonlighting as private tutors to earn up to £95 per hour over Zoom

Hundreds of teachers are offering their services on the video conferencing site, with some breaking rules that ban them from doing private work during the school day, it has been reported

So - a minority of teachers, and only some of them are breaking the rules re the school day.

I’d be interested to know further details as the article is a bit vague....

I imagine you love this story though Umbrella, given the absolute skating you’ve been giving teachers for months!!

SmileEachDay · 05/07/2020 13:37

*slating, obvs!

Beebie2 · 05/07/2020 13:37

Yes, of course they should be disciplined, they’ve broken their contact. If you break the rules you’ve agreed to, you risk getting sacked.

Most contracts say we need to consult the employer before engaging in other work. They definitely can’t work in contracted hours I.e 32.5 hours per week (if they’re full time)

I don’t know how they’ve found the time. It’s really greedy, but I doubt there’ll be more than a handful.

bengalcat · 05/07/2020 13:37

If they've fulfilled their schools online teaching or marking etc then I don't see why this is a problem .
I wonder if all teaching staff are still paid - thinking particularly of employment contracts for supply teachers etc . Maybe this is the only way they can make ends meet .

DomDoesWotHeWants · 05/07/2020 13:39

I see the usual suspects are here to have a go at teachers again, they are just so tediously predictable.

Beebie2 · 05/07/2020 13:40

Hundreds of teachers maybe offering zoom tuition. That doesn’t mean hundreds of contracted full time teachers are offering tuition. If you work 3 days for example, you’re free outside of your contracted 19.5 hours. If you’re supply, you can work as you please.

Cattiwampus · 05/07/2020 13:44

Lots of teachers also tutor, so provided they are filling all the obligations the school has of them during this time, what’s the problem? If the school isn’t living up to expectations, complain to SLT.

Redhair23 · 05/07/2020 13:44

I didn’t know it wasn’t allowed, I am paying one to tutor my year 6 ds. Two hours a week.

ilovesooty · 05/07/2020 13:45

I doubt very much if many full time teachers are doing this and if they are they should of course be disciplined.

Supply teachers haven't had any work for months so why shouldn't they do this? Part time teachers can do this when they're not contracted to work.

But of course one or two posters predictably have dived straight in licking their lips.

AlpineBell · 05/07/2020 13:47

Maybe they are employed part time hours by the school

Cattiwampus · 05/07/2020 13:50

I agree, if they are breaking the rules, they should be punished, that’s the risk they take. Interesting to see if the DOE have any evidence, or if they’re running on gossip though.

AriadneCrete · 05/07/2020 13:51

Like a previous poster, the only teachers I know doing online tutoring did tutoring before all of this anyway. They’ve just moved their regular slots to online (after school).

Any full time teachers doing this will be in the minority and should be disciplined by their schools. I’m sure that won’t stop people from having a go though!

Cattiwampus · 05/07/2020 13:51

@Redhair23

I didn’t know it wasn’t allowed, I am paying one to tutor my year 6 ds. Two hours a week.
Are they also a full-time teacher with a contract? Or a part-timer? Or supply?
TillyFloss10 · 05/07/2020 13:52

I think it depends on the school. We have been told we have to be logged on, working and available between certain times so that other staff, students and parents can contact us. At least one person at our place has been dismissed for taking on work inside these hours (not tutoring work - related to their side business)

Theimpossiblegirl · 05/07/2020 13:53

Oh bore off op.
Flowers

OverTheRainbow88 · 05/07/2020 13:54

It’s not breaking the rules if the teaching is not done during contracted teaching hours. Sometimes the school Headteacher has to agree. Lots of teachers want to do zoom lessons with classes but the school has said not to. If I want to teach my classes 9-3 and then private tutor 4-7 why not? Obviously the money being made has to be declared and taxed.

CallmeAngelina · 05/07/2020 13:56

During their working hours? But if school is closed (for them and pupils), and they have fulfilled all the duties required of them by their Head Teachers, why not? Or if they do those duties during the evenings (so, flexi-time) leaving some time during the day to tutor when students are available, why not?
I'm part-time. Would it be OK with you, UmbrellaHat, if I chose to do this on one of my non-working days?
Although frankly, I can't see that it's any of your fucking business.

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