State school teachers moonlighting as private tutors during their 'working' hours

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Should be sacked
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/state-school-teachers-moonlighting-private-22303681

So i would expect a range of answers from when teachers on here have questioned them.

I have answered it.

@hashtagbollocks

* Every single school in the country has a different headteacher. Mindblowing, I know

So i would expect a range of answers from when teachers on here have questioned them.
Mindblowing isn't it (you patronising bellend)

That's okay, I'm always here to help. I'm glad you appreciated learning extra cultural references.

I hope it stands you in good stead. Let me know the next time you need assistance.

In fact, you really think it's ok if a teacher on full pay is achieving 20% of their normal workload.
Any other teachers agree with this?

My (“outstanding”) school has made live lessons an option for teachers. The response from students has been woeful.

Teachers who are not delivering live lessons are effectively working flexitime - in my case spread over 7 days a week rather than my normal 3. It would be perfectly possible to fit in the odd hour of tutoring here and there.

Oh, and a zoom lesson for 1 tutee is a different kettle of fish to a class of 30.

well not really, teachers are on full pay, not furloughed......

Yes, which is 80% of full pay, so if the teachers that poster referenced are doing some work, say 20%, then they're quits.
I bet the vast majority of teachers, if asked, would have bitten their employers' hands off if given the option of being furloughed.

Pumpertrumper it might be different where you are, but we can't use key worker provision in order to work from home in Scotland. So on a day I'm in looking after keyworker dc I can use it, but not in order to zoom my department or get some work done in peace.

Originally when you used Zoom it was being porn bombed or random people popped up and you were unable to block or mute them.. Hence some LA's barred it. You can now purchase a paid version with enhanced security.
Parents also need to agree to the virtual policy and many did not or took their time to respond. We did live lessons with specific timings. Everyone in class joined at the same time as their peers( some). One school loaned out 90 computers.

Yeah, you'll be my first port of call pothole

hope you treat your students a bit more respectfully

@hashtagbollocks

In fact, you really think it's ok if a teacher on full pay is achieving 20% of their normal workload. Any other teachers agree with this?

You ave not understood what I said. I'm not going to explain it again - as it's a Sunday and I'm not teaching today (just my normal weekday hours).

or even (radical) helping out with shopping or community work for the vulnerable.

Really? You think that teachers should be using any spare time in their contracted hours to do community work? What other profession would you expect this of? Those folk who have been furloughed? The whole range of professions working shorter hours due to lack or demand, or lack of ability to work remotely?

By the way OP, did you know that loads of MPs - you know, government people - have jobs on the side? usually worth hundreds of thousands a year? do you feel they should be sacked too? perhaps these clashes of interest have contributed to the parlous handling of the covid crisis. I mean, BoJo was off writing his book about Churchill wasn't he? clearly his part time job as 'author' took his attention away from what really matters.
Perhaps you could start a thread about that.

We’ve had no contact from our school until 2 weeks ago.

If my DDs teachers had been teaching other kids whilst we’ve been struggling at home (both working and crappy pdf sheets to do) then yes I’d be beyond miffed.

If it’s being carried out by a contracted teacher in their working hours, then personally I think it’s all shades of wrong.

As a side note a friend who works in the state school system has said that teachers have been actively encouraged by the unions not to teach and dissuade at all costs in order to negotiate a better pay deal.

The last paragraph is not my opinion, just what I’ve been told.

cabbage
thank you for a reasoned and non aggressive / sarcastic reply

@hashtagbollocks

Yeah, you'll be my first port of call pothole

hope you treat your students a bit more respectfully

I don't have any students! I'm just a parent with children at school.

Interesting to see that you assume anyone who disagrees with you is a teacher though.

Depends really. State school teachers always have been able to privately tutor. If they are marking all children’s work (done during the day) at night, then that might provide the most timely feedback. I think it’s only an issue if the HT feels they aren’t performing the tasks they are supposed to in their working day.

sorry 8pothole*
your sarky defensive attitude did lead me to make assumptions.
i can only guess your school isn't one of the many who have abandoned the pupils

I should add my opinion is obviously more generous because I have daily feedback on work for my child. If I didn’t and saw my children’s teacher tutoring, then I would feel irritated.

teachers have been actively encouraged by the unions not to teach and dissuade at all costs in order to negotiate a better pay deal.

My union has not done this.

Nor has mine!

@hashtagbollocks

sorry 8pothole* your sarky defensive attitude did lead me to make assumptions. i can only guess your school isn't one of the many who have abandoned the pupils

I'm definitely sarcastic, but I'm not defending; I'm attacking your comments because they're silly.

All this what "the SLT said" and this assumption we all want zoom lessons. It's silly. Last thing I want is zoom lessons and I've already explained why.

teachers have been actively encouraged by the unions not to teach and dissuade at all costs in order to negotiate a better pay deal.

Evidence/link please.
Ditto, my union (one of the largest) has also not done this.

I'm a state secondary school teacher. I tutor too. Once schools closed and exams were cancelled the majority of my tutoring stopped as I mainly do exam years. I carried on with some Y12s and I picked up a Y9 - through teams or skype, works perfectly well.
One of my Y12's I tutored at 2pm - this was during one of my non-contact periods. His Mum said it made him get out of bed! I checked it was OK with my workplace and they were fine with it. I have continued to teach and set work and be available for all my classes. I teach 'LIVE' lessons - we do not allow videos on but that is school policy. In fact I teach a few of my LIVE lessons at 3pm which finish later than normal school day, again this is because afternoon LIVE lessons are better attended than mornings (particularly for older years) so school supports and encourages us to do this. I do not charge £95 per hour

The last paragraph is not my opinion, just what I’ve been told.

Ah, right. So a load of old bollocks then?

As a side note a friend who works in the state school system has said that teachers have been actively encouraged by the unions not to teach and dissuade at all costs in order to negotiate a better pay deal

Bahahahaaa. Good lord.