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State school teachers moonlighting as private tutors during their 'working' hours

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UmbrellaHat · 05/07/2020 13:21

Should be sacked
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/state-school-teachers-moonlighting-private-22303681

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darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 17:22

That is completely unacceptable

SmileEachDay · 07/07/2020 17:26

Yes, that would be completely unacceptable darkcaramel

Remember, you never know who you’re talking to on here or what ethnicity they are.

That’s the point you should have made, but you didn’t.

darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 17:27

smile you have been deleted a number of times now.

PotholeParadise · 07/07/2020 17:30

If in some alternate universe primates of all types had evolved to have white fur, like polar bears, and humans all had the pale coral, beige-ish skin that is, in this universe, typical of humans whose ancestors settled in northerly climates...

humans would still compare other people's behaviour to that of chimpanzees, just as I have mentioned my MIL's cat. The same would also happen if all humans had pale skin and all other primates had black fur, golden fur or red fur.

We don't live in that universe, so I avoid ever using primate comparisons in face-to-face conversation in case I accidentally slip up and use it to a black child. Why? Because they could justifiably conclude it was a racial reference. It would be an entirely reasonable misunderstanding, so I take care to avoid that.

However, I cannot agree that online text-based conversation where we respond to what other people have typed is the same as real life.

I absolutely cannot agree that it is always a racially-charged term and this idea that an ape comparison actually means the speaker is comparing you to a black person is so out-there I can't believe it. There is something very insiduously nasty about that chain of reasoning, and it sounds about as racist as throwing bananas at football players.

SmileEachDay · 07/07/2020 17:32

Yes I have.

That’s fine - MN think I’ve been goady. That’s their call. 🤷🏻‍♀️

darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 17:35

pothole do you honestly believe the ape comparisons were because apes tend to be brown/black in colour?

CuckooCuckooClock · 07/07/2020 17:35

Humans are primates and apes. Stop using ape, primate and chimp as if they are interchangeable when they’re not.

darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 17:37

That’s really not the important aspect of this discussion cuckoo

Piggywaspushed · 07/07/2020 17:38

Can we stop now please?

The OP must be lapping this up, what with her confirmation bias and all.

Peace and love.

CuckooCuckooClock · 07/07/2020 17:39

It’s one of them. darkcaramel

darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 17:41

It really isn’t cuckoo, once you start using ape OR chimp as an insult then you are walking into territory that is racist, even if you don’t mean to.

piggy I’d love to. But I don’t have the luxury of being able to shrug off comments like that. I’ve tried to be reasonable and fair and acknowledge not the intention but - But there is an absolute refusal to see that the insult is absolutely seeped in racial discrimination and it needs to be challenged.

Mrskeats · 07/07/2020 17:43

I need to put my prices up (misses point)
Not in state school before anyone has a go.

PotholeParadise · 07/07/2020 17:43

@darkcaramel

pothole do you honestly believe the ape comparisons were because apes tend to be brown/black in colour?
I feel like you're trying to trick me into justifying the origins of racist comments through the years.

No. Not doing that.

darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 17:45

I’m not trying to trick you at all. I’m asking you a genuine question, because your post seemed to imply that you believed this. If I’ve misunderstood, just say that.

FrippEnos · 07/07/2020 17:49

darkcaramel
I do not “keep insulting posters” at all

I have said that some of the responses by teachers on here are childish and silly.

and to grow up + the swearing.

So insults,

Or are the you one that decides what is an insult and what is not?

darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 17:52

I swore (if you call ‘piss off’ swearing) once.

Did it really upset you so much?

FrippEnos · 07/07/2020 17:53

darkcaramel

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of what you are doing.

darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 17:55

Fripp, it is not hypocritical, unless you really think any disagreement is wrong.

I think some teachers are being ridiculous and childish - OK, disagree with that, tell me I’m wrong, even swear at me. I don’t care.

Tell me my intelligence is sub par to a chimpanzee? Yes, I will care. And so should everyone.

xsquared · 07/07/2020 18:01

@Piggywaspushed

Can we stop now please?

The OP must be lapping this up, what with her confirmation bias and all.

Peace and love.

Hear, hear! This thread has gone from "Teachers who tutor during working hours should be sacked. Discuss" to a pantomime about whether one poster called another a chimp.
darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 18:02

A pantomime? Racist language?

Piggywaspushed · 07/07/2020 18:04

OK, I tried. Once a HOY. always a HOY...

xsquared · 07/07/2020 18:08

First of all, echt didn't call you a chimp and secondly, the term chimp wasn't used in a racially motivated context either.

darkcaramel · 07/07/2020 18:09

First of all, echt compared me to a chimp, and second of all, calling people chimps as an insult is always mired in racism, so even if it wasn’t used in a racially motivated context, it was still unacceptable language.

borntobequiet · 07/07/2020 18:10

I could do with a good book to read. And a strong drink, because the convoluted thinking on this thread is making me dizzy.

xsquared · 07/07/2020 18:10

I beg to differ.

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