State school teachers moonlighting as private tutors during their 'working' hours

[UmbrellaHat]

Should be sacked
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/state-school-teachers-moonlighting-private-22303681

Wales - we have a website of teachers who do private tutoring in different subjects, why is this a problem now. Friends have used them over the years.

I can’t see the problem if they are doing what is expected of them by their headteachers at school and tutoring isn’t interfering.

It literally makes no difference to anyone or anything if a teacher does this alongside meeting all their commitments to school. The only people that will be bothered about this will be those who already have a bee in their bonnets about private tutoring even without lockdown.

@flumposie

I dont know how they'd have the time. I certainly don't.

The teachers that I know who offer tuition are part time.

Oh wonderful. Another teacher bashing thread.

Now we are so far down the live, I can't understand why others on here can't understand that yes, some schools have not been doing much at all!.
Some schools have managed a seemless on line transition. Those teachers will also have all the issues and family and obligations that all other teaches have.
Some schools have given out weekly work.
Some schools have not given out weekly work.
There is disparity.
This is the issue. When some schools have managed so easily and well, others seem to have been either genuinely useless or deliberately obstructive.

Re teachers moonlighting, I don't blame them if their head has precluded them from working!!. At least someone is learning something somewhere.

Sack the small minority that are doing this.

The children have been badly let down during this pandemic by some teachers.

I've not been doing this but I don't see a problem with it. It's school policy that we can only set work and not offer live lessons - that's not because I'm being lazy and don't care. I'm glad some are offering their expertise; I know that if dd was school age I would definitely be paying someone to keep her on top of her school work. People aren't fighting for fairness when I am giving up my lunchtimes and after schools for free offering extra revision classes, but as soon as a teacher says their time comes with a price tag, they don't think it's fair.

I don't see the problem.

I’m in FE and have been working very different hours from my contracted hours because it’s way better for my learners.
If I wanted to do some tutoring during the day (when they are at work, or homeschooling themselves) I would. But I don’t want to, because frankly I’m exhausted. What I’m doing at present is very labour intensive.

Yay another teacher bashing thread

Do you seriously think it’s only teachers who moonlight, or who jobs on the side, sometimes in working hours, because it’s not

But yay let’s sack the lot, then have no teachers to teach

I really understand why, after all the teacher bashing threads on here and across social media more and more people are leaving and less and less joining.

How about you just live and let live

Employers can expect their employees not to moonlight during working hours. I get if those teachers have been told not to Zoom they could spend their time working on resources or other tasks relating to their job or even (radical) helping out with shopping or community work for the vulnerable.

I'd love to know how they're getting £95 an hour (private tutor, don't earn anywhere near that much!)

they could spend their time working on resources or other tasks relating to their job or even (radical) helping out with shopping or community work for the vulnerable.

I'm sure they don't need you to point out what they could be doing in their spare time.
What sort of community volunteering are YOU doing, by the way?

How do you know, umbrella that the school has actually specified the hours during which the teacher should be working during lockdown?

Mine hasn’t.

so how come they can't do zoom lessons for their state pupils?

Ask the schools, not the teachers, I don't think they're the ones in the position to turn down teaching their actual students in favour of tutoring for money instead.

My partner is still off work but has at most; 2 online sessions with their students a week, they haven't been tutoring at all, but I wouldn't begrudge them if they did, given that they've done all what their school has asked of them I don't think it matters if they're tutoring "during school hours".

I’ve seen the total slaughtering teachers have been getting on here over the past few months and stayed out of it but I’m finally so fed up I’m going to say something....

During lock down I lived with a family member (ex teacher) who now oversees 20+ schools in our local area. Lots of DOE stuff going on in our house. Many teachers are working very hard but equally MANY are taking the piss! Choosing not to put their kids into available childcare, not working anywhere near their contracts, refusing to adapt the way they work (online teaching), claiming to be high risk when they are not and totally ignoring that their jobs are actually amongst the safest in the country and they are exceptionally lucky.

A couple of weeks back a friend of mine who is a teacher was complaining what a monster her head was after he’d had a ‘word’ with her about her two children kicking off on work zoom meetings.

-How am I supposed to explain to a 3 year old that mummies working? Honestly can you believe it?

• I thought their nursery was open for key workers?
• I’m not sending them there!
• Right, but you’re still getting full pay to work?

Some schools and teachers have been fantastic. We’ve had a woeful experience. An average of a 48 hour period for a response to email queries from ‘full time’ teachers. A significant number of our teachers have been offering tutoring. It’s been like a bandwagon effect with them.
Will a teacher EVER acknowledge on MN that a teacher is ever in the wrong? Perhaps when hell freezes over

I bet most of them are qualified teachers who usually work as supply teachers (and therefore have no contacts to anyone right now) or qualified teachers who usually work as exam markers (which were cancelled this year).

Will a teacher EVER acknowledge on MN that a teacher is ever in the wrong?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3941702-Annoyed-your-kid-isn-t-having-zoom-lessons-or-school-contact-or-not-going-back-to-school-yet

Here you go.

Umbrella really hates teachers. I wonder why.

Re teachers moonlighting, I don't blame them if their head has precluded them from working!!. At least someone is learning something somewhere

This.

so how come they can't do zoom lessons for their state pupils

"Ask the schools, not the teachers"
aren't the schools made up of teachers?

@hashtagbollocks

so how come they can't do zoom lessons for their state pupils

"Ask the schools, not the teachers"
aren't the schools made up of teachers?

It's the school management that decides if Ms Bloggs in the English department should provide a zoom lesson at 9am on Thursday, or continue to send out worksheets. Not Miss Bloggs.

aren't the schools made up of teachers?

And one of them is in charge and tells the other teachers what to do and what not to do. They are commonly called the Headteacher.

And are there no SLT or headteachers on MN who can answer why they're not doing zoom lessons?
Or have the "normal" teachers not asked them why?