In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

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It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

Do you think increasing teacher’s salaries resulting in a higher calibre of teacher is the answer?
I think the government need to do better at retaining teachers. Last report showed that just 67% of teachers who trained in 2013 were still teaching in 2019. That's an awful attrition rate considering a lot of funding is available to train. People leave because of a combination of workload compared to salary, student behaviour and media perception of teachers.

I'm 10 years in now, my salary is pretty decent but will not rise any more unless I take on a leadership position (that I don't really want). There should be incentives to stay in the classroom.

Formerbabe mine has been in throughout. They haven't had anymore than what has been given to those at home.

The chosen ones...ie the children of key workers, have been allowed in school and doing the work in a classroom environment with teachers available to help....how is that fair? Why should I apologize that my dc may hold them back?

These children were in school purely for childcare - I don't think they were being taught although I think they should have been.

I’d love if they had longer days to catch up

I'd resign. My days are long enough as it is. Teachers are used to differentiating work, we are used to finding and plugging knowledge gaps.

Most students won't need catching up. They've missed 3.5% of their school time. Relax a bit, enjoy the summer and let us pick up the pieces in September without any mad radical plans. Instead we'll just crack on and teach them.

"The chosen ones...ie the children of key workers, have been allowed in school and doing the work in a classroom environment with teachers available to help....how is that fair?"

That's not my understanding at all. Our school made it clear that keyworkers' children were at school for childcare purposes, in mixed groups, doing activities yes but no learning. So they would be bottom of the list when it comes to homelearning over lockdown. On that basis I have no qualms over my kids doing little work. It was never meant to be home schooling. It was just about coping without schools for a bit.

@formerbabe
My daughter hasn't been to school once and is fully up to date. I am a key worker.
Myself and my husband have worked fulltime throughout lockdown.
No one is a 'chosen one' and implying that there are simply sounds like an excuse for those that haven't been committed to it as they could have been.

The chosen ones...ie the children of key workers, have been allowed in school and doing the work in a classroom environment with teachers available to help....how is that fair? Why should I apologize that my dc may hold them back? My dc was banned from the school premises and some were welcomed and taught in small class sizes...that's what's not fair

What would you have preferred?

The options;

a) no school closure, everyone in -with the subsequent community infection.

b) KW/vulnerable children not allowed in either.

Because those are the other options, former.

@formerbabe

If children haven't done the lockdown work despite the opportunity to do so then it is not fair to hold back those that have

The chosen ones...ie the children of key workers, have been allowed in school and doing the work in a classroom environment with teachers available to help....how is that fair? Why should I apologize that my dc may hold them back? My dc was banned from the school premises and some were welcomed and taught in small class sizes...that's what's not fair.

Would you have preferred that the key workers stayed at home so your bins remained unemptied, your GP not available for any appointments, the hospitals only staffed by people without children?

During the lockdown we all had to take on additional responsibilities - my own children didn't have me at home during the half term or Easter holidays because I had to work out of the home and yet they were able to do their school work at different times of the day when I wasn't working. We all had to adapt as best as possible. My DCs were able to go to school as I was (am) a key worker but we chose for them not to so we minimised the chances of them coming into contact with the virus; having one person in the house likely to come into contact with it was enough.

The chosen ones didn't do school work here, it was childcare only until the wider opening.

@oblada that's not usual, if correct. Most schools with key worker provision used part of the day for self study / time for Oak Academy or similar, to allow the same cover for key worker kids as those at home, and frankly to give something to do that is socially distanceable.

I think the government need to do better at retaining teachers. Last report showed that just 67% of teachers who trained in 2013 were still teaching in 2019.

Universities need to do better at keeping students on teacher training courses as well. The course that our last trainee teacher was from had 2/3rds of the students drop out. We had 3 students who passed their first placement with us, they all passed their second placement somewhere else before 2 of them dropped out.

Stuckforthefourthtime - quite a few ppl here are saying the same as me. It was childcare. Not school work though they may have given them some printed sheets etc the same I've done occasionally at home. I'm not sure social distancing was part of the consideration at the time. It was just about keeping those kids occupied so parents can work.

The university thing is a difficult one to pin down. Do they quit because they have seen the reality of teaching or do they quit due to lack of support from university?

We had a trainee who 4 weeks in couldn't cope with the workload, she didn't need the money, she wasn't going to complete her NQT year anyway so just left. Nothing would have made her stay once she saw what it was like.

What an odd thread.

When we get to Sept, no one knows what things will look like. My youngest is back and trialling the pod system. So one pod of children, with set teachers. For all subjects. Focus on maths and English (core subjects). Outside of their pod they interact with no one else.

That may well be what our children return to. No one knows. All I would advise is stay close to your child’s teachers and work together to try and solve any challenges.

My eldest has been home the whole time, done approx 4 hours a day. I asked some of his teachers for extension work and they set it (state school).

This has been tough on everyone. The parents, the teachers and the kids. Work together. This virus could come back with a vengeance, we have to adapt.

Bloody hell referring to all the kids who did their home learning as “bright” isn’t ver bright. And I say this as someone on furlough who has had the time and resources to help their child, it doesn’t make him any brighter than his classmates who have parents working full time or access to the internet and were unable to do any home learning.

Surprisingly once this point was raised the Op has disappeared

Your post sounds very unkind. Some children have not been able to do some of the learning due varied reasons. This could be lack of available technology /busy home with siblings/ parents trying to work / or in our case a child who struggle to work without assistance . We have been told the topics will be covered again in September

@formerbabe ds is in and has been the whole time I can assure you it's been more play time than education at his school.

@CatkinToadflax well done to your ds ⭐️

My daughter does really well at school but has totally disengaged with all school work now. Our class received emails last week from our teacher to ask about the children and I let her know that my daughter has lost all motivation, she said it was the same for most of the class and that I shouldn't worry. But it's a little hard not to really apart from the email our school has been really poor with communication and we have idea what's going to happen in September.

“ The bright kids who have done their homelearning”

Oh fuck off OP.

After the conversation I had with my dc's primary the other day, I am no longer worrying about their home learning.

Mine have to go in part time as I'm a key worker on a rota at another school.

Their teachers set work which was a week long project and covered several lessons - English, maths and art. I tried to send their work in halfway through the week when they went in and was told they couldn't accept it. Even though they needed to refer to it for the days learning. I asked if they could email home the relevant tasks they had done to be told they wouldn't. Therefore they either had to duplicate work or do a weeks worth in one day.

Mine have not looked at their home learning since as the school have decided it isn't important to do the work they are asking their teachers to set.

Earthyfire who old is your daughter? My DD is the same and and she will be sitting GCSE’s next summer.

The goverment talk about the disadvantaged kids and the gap widening in knowledge between the two groups. The opposite of disadvantagedis privileged, advantage, bright outcome in life. So we have the disadvantaged kids and what should we call the other group ? Sorry for saying they bright maybe I should have used privileged?

@RuddyP

Why are people getting so uppity? It's a legitimate question to ask how lockdown and home learning will affect differentiation next year.

Well yes, but it's what happens every year anyway.

Some children come from a home where they're parents are literate, speak English, they are read to, they are engaged with, they are fed, kept clean and loved. Some children aren't as lucky.
Some children start school already able to read. Some children have never had a book and can't speak in full sentences.

Teachers will do what they do every year and they time off school won't really change that much.

@Hercwasonaroll

The university thing is a difficult one to pin down. Do they quit because they have seen the reality of teaching or do they quit due to lack of support from university?

We had a trainee who 4 weeks in couldn't cope with the workload, she didn't need the money, she wasn't going to complete her NQT year anyway so just left. Nothing would have made her stay once she saw what it was like.

Two of ours were former TAs with a lot of experience so they knew what they were letting themselves in for I think. There will have been others who knew it wasn't for them of course, it's inevitable.