In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

[947EliseChalotte]

It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

All classes are differentiated anyway. Teachers will assess where everyone is and then plan accordingly. It's not unusual to have classes were some kids are still learning their sounds or and others are writing paragraphs. Teachers always have to plan for this.

What @FartingNora said.

I can only speak for primary pupils.
The teachers be used to differentiating as children are naturally at very different levels in their learning. There's likely to be a few weeks of assessing and settling in because children may have changed places according to how much work they did. DD is a weak writer and was in one of the lowest groups but we've worked really hard with her during home schooling so I'm hoping she's caught up a bit.

There could well be a gap opening up where bright children with parents able to teach them are flying whilst children who struggled already have had the double whammy of parents who weren't able to give them what they needed. So teachers will need to stretch their differentiation but it is manageable.

Some 2 or 3 form entry schools could mix classes up I suppose.

Why are people getting so uppity? It's a legitimate question to ask how lockdown and home learning will affect differentiation next year.

I expect in primary it will be similar to usual in that some children are working a year or two ahead of the curriculum and some are a few years behind. IF they are able to teach as usual they will probably do the same as before where they have a 5 minute set up to see what people remember. Ds is usually fine with that, then they all pick the level they want to work at and the teacher helps those on the lower levels while those who have picked the harder tasks go off and do those. Don't assume that the 'clever' ones have done loads of work. Ds has hated lockdown learning because it is all 'just revision and boring'. There will be some who are further ahead than they were in March because they have worked really hard and some who are further behind because they haven't done anything, there will still though be a range of abilities and hopefully the teacher will give those who are ahead for any reason more stretching work so they don't mess around. I don't think anyone thinks that they will just fit seamlessly back into schooling, there will be some disruption initially.

You don’t sound very clued up on how teachers teach! They’re already able to differentiate work based on how well grounded children are in a task and even if it’s a topic the “bright” kids covered in lockdown at home, it’s likely they’ll still need to re-visit it with proper teacher input and assessment to ensure they’re secure in their understanding and able to apply the knowledge appropriately.

It’s not as simple as the bright kids will have done home schooling and the less bright ones won’t.

A bright kid may have parents who fit whatever reason haven’t supported home learning, they may have had no access to technology, been living in cramped conditions, been a young carer.

A not so bright kid may have had parents dedicated to helping them keep up, a suitable study space, access to all required technology etc

Surely if the bright kids who have done the home schooling are being disruptive then that will be dealt with as would any class disruption?

And tbh the pp who said their kids have done absolutely nothing and are concerned about bright kids disrupting class, I feel you’re projecting focus on your own kids and try and do some school work with them!

Why are people getting so uppity? It's a legitimate question to ask how lockdown and home learning will affect differentiation next year

Because there’s an underlying tone that children who haven’t been able to homeschool are thick. Basically.

This is a crazy post! Teachers differentiate and are used to catering for a cast array of abilities at primary level. Concepts and skills are revisited in a circular manner and built upon throughout the year. Good teachers will ensure all are supported and challenged!

Vast

Why are people getting so uppity? It's a legitimate question to ask how lockdown and home learning will affect differentiation next year

I think it was the phrase 'bright kids'which pissed people off.

Could have just said kids with key worker parents or those who haven't remained banned from the school premises.

Why haven't your children done any learning at all? Lots of friends with primary children havent necessarily followed the work that's been set, but they've all been learning something.

Work is differentiated anyway - the average year 6 class already has children working at age 5-12 level. There will likely just be a higher proportion of children requiring more support in the lower ability groups than before.

@PollyPelargonium52

The swots are usually in the higher band classes.

Let me fix that for you: The children who value their education are often, but not always, in the higher band classes.

R school have said assessments will be made and children will be moved classes if needed there also hoping to have afterschool club every day to help kids catch up. This is high school

Why are people getting so uppity? It's a legitimate question to ask how lockdown and home learning will affect differentiation next year.

I think it's because the OP seems to be implying that none of us should have home schooled our kids because she didn't. Basically our kids who did work at home will now interrupt her non-home schooled kids in lessons (a load of old bollocks of course) but it's an original way of looking at it, I'll give her that!

This is a crazy post! Teachers differentiate and are used to catering for a cast array of abilities at primary level. Concepts and skills are revisited in a circular manner and built upon throughout the year. Good teachers will ensure all are supported and challenged!

We are at an outstanding state primary, one that people move from all over for and parents rave about, and the above is still just not true. Of my three DCs at school, one is quite bright and differentiation works fine, one is a bit above average but laid-back (/lazy) and it doesn't as they let them select their own level and he chooses standard, then with home schooling I realised he was capable of far more than he's been doing. Then there's my ds2, who was already bored with even the top level stuff before lockdown and getting low level disruptive with it, and although our home learning has been patchy, he has been teaching himself more and more and doing stuff from his older brothers' books and now I don't know what to do. He really really doesn't want to go back - should I pull him out of school? tell him he has to stay ok with finishing work in the first part of class and just sit silently? His teachers have been great, but they have 30 kids including some with far more challenges, I sympathize that it's not easy to address.

At least we have problems about being ahead, I can only imagine how much harder it is for those who have the reverse challenges for dcs.falling further behind.

@947EliseChalotte

In secondary there are different bands but primary ? My kids haven't done any home learning but I know the bright kids will be bored re learning work from march and because they are bored will effect their behaviour and disrupt the class so will effect the ones who haven't done work.

Why haven't your children done any home learning?

I expect the ones at primary who haven't done any home learning will be the ones who will have missed some topics but the skills aren't only taught once in primary, there is revision of key areas in maths at greater depths as they move up the school but they might have missed the basics and so be put in a lower ability group for a specific lesson. In English there is more cover of the same skills than there is in maths. They will have missed out on general knowledge gained from science, history and geography though.

You do realise that teachers already differentiate work to allow for the fact that ability is a broad spectrum, and children have different homelives?

They don’t in my kid’s very mediocre primary school. They are all taught as one class in every subject except English. My DC was frequently bored in school. I have moved to the following year at home with him and he is more than able for it. I am worried that he will be bored further in school now. While I don’t think he will be disruptive, I think he will stop making any effort.
I know half of his class will have been working hard at home and many of those have parents who are teachers. Another quarter will have done the minimum and a quarter (the most disruptive and the ones who needed to do the work) will have done nothing at all and think that is fine because the school itself has very very low expectations.

The swots are usually in the higher band classes. There are no words for this level of attitude towards education.

I hope they do separate the children into groups. That would solve many problems but I know already the primary school does not have the resources and staff to do this.

My children aren't overly bright (they're the middling sort) but they have been home learning.

In September they usually spend a few weeks consolidating some of the last year's learning anyway and most work is differentiated so I wouldn't worry.

In primary I should imagine they will just start the year afresh. Lots of the areas in maths and English are repeated anyway. There are always top middle and bottom in classes, so the fact that some children may know more than others, is always how it is.

The swots are usually in the higher band classes

By 'swot' I assume you mean those who can be bothered to do the work as opposed to those who can't. It's a little like calling someone lucky when they do well, I always found that the harder I worked the luckier I got!

PollyPelargonium52
The swots are usually in the higher band classes.

Just wow.
Not in a good way either. Out of order.

@947EliseChalotte Am I reading this right? You say your DCs have done no home learning? Does that mean you think they aren't bright?

Loads of very bright children will not have managed to access home learning for one reason or another. Lots of average or even poorly performing children might have done a full timetable.

I agree though that holding back those children who've managed to access distance learning and done it would be unfair just as not giving your (?not bright?) children the chance to catch up would be unfair to the ones whove worked throughout.

They’ll probably ask the “bright” kids to teach the others

Which is not great