In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

[947EliseChalotte]

It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

The bigger problem will be schools having to find the gaps in the previous years learning when they have all moved up to the next year and will have the new year's learning to do as well. I suspect the gaps in the upper primary years won't show up until the early secondary years. The lower primary years will have their learning gaps filled as they work through primary.

@earthyfire

we have idea what's going to happen in September.
Nor do the schools, we got the guidance on Thursday.

I'm not replying anymore or reading anymore replies to my post, as I asked the simple question as to what would happen and I don't like how people are getting uppity about the question I asked. Thank you to people who answered and explained without mocking my question.

@947EliseChalotte

The goverment talk about the disadvantaged kids and the gap widening in knowledge between the two groups. The opposite of disadvantagedis privileged, advantage, bright outcome in life. So we have the disadvantaged kids and what should we call the other group ? Sorry for saying they bright maybe I should have used privileged?

The opposite of disadvantaged is advantaged. Being advantaged doesn't mean bright, it doesn't mean engaged, it doesn't even mean a bright outcome in life. It can mean those things but it can also mean that the academic pressure either from within or from parents and/or schools can mean a lifetime of mental health problems, low self esteem, eating disorders, self harm and any number of difficulties. Children don't often thrive on being labelled no matter what the label applied.

@bettsbattenburg That's terrible. Wonder where it all went wrong there. Some universities are so backwards with the hoops they expect trainees to jump through.

I suppose there's a whole spectrum of circumstances right now..

A middle class, privileged, highly intelligent child with a place in school thanks to a key worker parent will be in a very strong position..

Then there will be a whole variety including...

An under privileged child whose struggling academically but is in school thanks to a key worker parent.

A child from a middle class well educated family whose very bright but two working parents who aren't key workers and have no time to help

And a myriad of other situations and circumstances...

Bottom line is that life never has, and never will be, fair. All we can do, both as parents, and our children themselves, is the best with what we've got.

My dd is very diligent, hard working and until the last breadth of primary way behind most other kids. Where would she sit in your little world?

danni thank you. I didn’t especially mean to blow DS’s trumpet but I did want to mention a DC who isn’t ‘bright’ as such ( ) but who has worked incredibly hard during lockdown and come on really well as a result.

@Sittingontheveranda

Do you think that "underfunding" refers to teachers' salaries?

I think money is an incentive to go into the profession or not as with all careers.

I'm happy with my pay to be honest. I'd rather the funding went in to adequate provision for the children, or more support staff than my wages.

I’ve had minimal work back (primary) but the children who have been working are across all abilities. We were told to only set consolidation work.

@formerbabe

If children haven't done the lockdown work despite the opportunity to do so then it is not fair to hold back those that have

The chosen ones...ie the children of key workers, have been allowed in school and doing the work in a classroom environment with teachers available to help....how is that fair? Why should I apologize that my dc may hold them back? My dc was banned from the school premises and some were welcomed and taught in small class sizes...that's what's not fair.

Banned is a very emotive word.

And our Keyworker children did not have formal lesson. Yes some learning went on but it was more craft, art, music, gardening, cooking. No one was having an English or maths lesson.

Schools will assess, gaps in learning will be filled as thoroughly as possible and the children who have completed all the work set will be given extension tasks. Unfortunately, I think that, despite teachers’ best efforts, this year’s Year 10 and Year 12 state school pupils will be at a huge disadvantage to public school pupils when it comes to external exams such as GCSE and A Levels.

What mb said -- a lot of state-ed involves repetition, lots of it over the years, DS18 missed years of it, accumulated over several 'excluded' and 'waiting' periods of many months; he still ended repeating the curriculum from time to time.

He's an average student (bright in some things, a bit dim in others, coasts in the rest) - he still got through it and so will most dc.

If the privately educated have some sort of advantage due to CV19, it's hardly surprising as they do anyway.

Unfortunately, I think that, despite teachers’ best efforts, this year’s Year 10 and Year 12 state school pupils will be at a huge disadvantage to public school pupils when it comes to external exams such as GCSE and A Levels.

There's always a gap. Reality is the majority of kids are state educated so the gap will just be a bit wider and kids who may have got a 6 will get a 7 in private schools. This doesn't fuss me too much to be honest.

@947EliseChalotte

I'm not replying anymore or reading anymore replies to my post, as I asked the simple question as to what would happen and I don't like how people are getting uppity about the question I asked. Thank you to people who answered and explained without mocking my question.

Nobody knows because this government can't plan more than 5 minutes ahead.

That's why I decided to keep pushing DS's education despite needing to work as well. He's now completing tasks 2 years ahead. This means that if the education system is in confusion and chaos, he can afford to coast a little and revise skills we've learnt together. That should be easier for him than it is for kids who are trying to catch up whilst adapting to everything else

@formerbabe

I suppose there's a whole spectrum of circumstances right now..

A middle class, privileged, highly intelligent child with a place in school thanks to a key worker parent will be in a very strong position..

Then there will be a whole variety including...

An under privileged child whose struggling academically but is in school thanks to a key worker parent.

A child from a middle class well educated family whose very bright but two working parents who aren't key workers and have no time to help

And a myriad of other situations and circumstances...

I feel for some of the Key Worker children we have had in school. They had no Easter or half term break. They have seen their friends being at home with a parent, at best doing activities with them like baking, gardening, playing games or (and the child may well thin this is better) watching Netflix/playing Fortnite all day. They have been in a school with adults who have to spend all day telling them to keep their distance, who can't hug them when they are sad or hurt. Many of them have been in school way longer than the school day. Some of them have been the only one in their year group or friendship group.

So please don't think that Key Worker children have been having a normal school time and will now be streets ahead of all other children.
In my experience they are tired and fed up.

Yes I'm aware it is not a normal school experience but I've heard from the parents of the chosen ones that they've been loving school right now. At least they get some interaction with their peers...better than the situation with the banned children who may not have seen another child for months.

Give me strength.

@947EliseChalotte

I'm not replying anymore or reading anymore replies to my post, as I asked the simple question as to what would happen and I don't like how people are getting uppity about the question I asked. Thank you to people who answered and explained without mocking my question.

Please answer the question as to why your DC have done no school work?

You're moaning about there being a disadvantage to those who haven't done any home learning, your children fall into that category. People would be more accommodating with an answer if they knew the reasoning behind you not doing any home learning with them.

@947EliseChalotte why haven’t you kids done any home learning? Surely that is the issue.

*your

'The chosen ones'? 'Banned'?

Strewth.

@formerbabe

Yes I'm aware it is not a normal school experience but I've heard from the parents of the chosen ones that they've been loving school right now. At least they get some interaction with their peers...better than the situation with the banned children who may not have seen another child for months.

Will you stop saying banned and chosen ones.

SCHOOL WAS SHUT, they weren't banned. No one sat there and decided to put a big cross next to the names of children they didn't deem worthy enough to come in.
School was shut due the the pandemic that you might have read about.

parents of the chosen ones

So we’ve gone from clapping for NHS and keyworkers to bitching about them and their kids.

Fucksake.