In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

[947EliseChalotte]

It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

I think money is an incentive to go into the profession or not as with all careers

You have quite spectacularly misunderstood what ‘underfunding’ is referring to.

@947EliseChalotte

In secondary there are different bands but primary ? My kids haven't done any home learning but I know the bright kids will be bored re learning work from march and because they are bored will effect their behaviour and disrupt the class so will effect the ones who haven't done work.

Why have you let your children down? What justifiable excuse do you have to have disadvantaged them in this way?

Sitting on the veranda

They absolutely do not divide the children into high and lower ability group.

How do you know that? They absolutely do.

Depends on the school. Depends on the teacher.

They should concentrate on bringing the disadvantaged children up to the level of the others.

@Sittingontheveranda

that there was provision in case there wasn't additional provision from the school.

I’m just repeating myself now - the school didn’t mention that website. I only found out about it through MN. The school did not mention it!

Do you always expect to be spoon fed?

@noblegiraffe

No, I’m sure the tutoring will be a sticking plaster over a missing limb but it hasn’t even been brought up and dismissed on a thread about catch-up.

Is it another thing parents aren’t aware of?

I'm aware of it but it's another thing on my list of government promises which are as much use as a snowflake in a heatwave.

@947EliseChalotte I can’t quite understand why your children have done no home learning at all. Are you just saying that to get a reaction from us? Even if they couldn’t access the work set by the school, surely there would have been some creative activities you could have set them, art, cooking, reading or watching BBC educational programmes, for example. Couldn’t you find a topic in their curriculum and ask them to research it on YouTube, then create a poster or a video about it? Is that really so difficult? Genuine question, tell me if it is, I need to understand!

Surely a good school differentiates the world anyway? Children must be at different levels within the class.

Work
Although differentiation of the world would be good too!

@noblegiraffe

This thread totally ignores the funding for catch-up tutoring promised by the government.

Do people think that’s not going to happen?

The catch-up funding is a little bit of a red herring anyway once you factor that schools have to pay 25% of the cost themselves from existing budgets in order to access it. There will be a number of schools who are simply unable to do this; primary schools in particular. Especially with the expectation that additional costs for all of the additional cleaning, resources, etc are also to come out of their existing budgets.

Positivevibesonlyplease - I don't know about the pp but my kids havent done much bar a few work sheets and a few educational programmes because both me and DH work FT and are v busy atm and we also have a 3yrs old to supervise.
I'm not worried tho, they'll catch up. Schools will adjust. After all the keyworkers' kids going to school will not have done more.

I agree that the curriculum was frozen so all the work really should have been going over stuff already learned. My year 2 has started doing year three maths but he is in no way secure, so some stuff will have already been covered extensively for him but a lot of stuff that he is supposed to know he is in no way secure in. So for him it will be s good thing to go over it again.

Do some posters not understand that some DC’s have not any schooling since lockdown. As posted earlier my friend (she is also a colleague) and her DH are both working from home. Both in the corporate finance work - particularly busy at the moment. Their DC’s aren’t disadvantaged children. They have a laptop each, post grad educated parents but they are seven and eight years old. At that age they aren’t going to watch educational tv or complete worksheets without constant encouragement which their parents can’t give they as they are on conference calls and trying to meet deadlines every day.

Totally different than if a parent is a SAHP or furloughed. Try and be a little less rude about other parents who are at breaking point from the stress they are under. They don’t need other parents pointing out , incorrectly, that they have failed their DC’s.

@TheMammothHunters

Surely a good school differentiates the world anyway? Children must be at different levels within the class.

Teachers are used to having classes with huge ranges in ability, attitude to learning, access to resources outside of school, etc. They are expected to adjust for this in what they do and the vast majority do this successfully.

This will look different in each school: some will group by perceived ability and tailor teaching that way, some will provide a range of challenges so the children can access at the level that suits their understand and some will offer the same task but it is one designed to be low threshold and high challenge so it's accessible to all but has deeper levels for those who require it.

It's not the "bright kids" who have been doing all the work. It's the kid's whose parents have made sure they do it.
The most disadvantaged children have done the least, nothing to do with ability.

I agree that children don't have to come from disadvantaged backgrounds to have not done any work. My DD has done some, but like I said earlier, now refuses. I'm a sahm, we have a laptop and a printer, I'd happily sit there all day and help her but she won't do it. I could shout and nag and punish but I'm not prepared to live in an unhappy home over this issue. My DD loves school and is very compliant there...she just misses it and wants to go back.

Streaming. As PPs have suggested. In core subjects.
Be prepared for teacher bashing once this happens as the pupils with horrendous home lives will be in ‘sink classes’ with the pupils who’s parents don’t value education.
I wrote ‘don’t value education’ not ‘ haven’t been able to access the learning’ or ‘ haven’t had the resources or time’ .
More parents need to speak out about the behaviour of pupils who’s parents have ensured their children do not value education.

@nobelgiraffe

Thank you so much for that link. DS has been struggling in some topics so this will really help. I hadn't realised this was a thing

There is a very wide range of abilities in most primary classes. Teachers will differentiate accordingly.

@ladymalfoy was your post meant to be so bigot-ed?

My DD struggles with behaviour and is lower ability. She has complex SEND. I assure you I value education.

If children haven't done the lockdown work despite the opportunity to do so then it is not fair to hold back those that have.

I hope they do assess the children and split them up accordingly and also give them extra classes to catch up. I know my kids will be going into classrooms with new teachers who won’t know them from before. I’d love if they had longer days to catch up. I know my kids school won’t do that. It is a mediocre school, with a high staff turnover, and many teachers who do the minimum and many parents who send their children to private tutors to compensate.

Pre coronavirus- For example, in one class some children might be be at the level of multiplying 230x30 whilst other children might not be able to add 230 and 30. Huge variation is hard, but it’s also very much the norm in the average primary school.

If children haven't done the lockdown work despite the opportunity to do so then it is not fair to hold back those that have

The chosen ones...ie the children of key workers, have been allowed in school and doing the work in a classroom environment with teachers available to help....how is that fair? Why should I apologize that my dc may hold them back? My dc was banned from the school premises and some were welcomed and taught in small class sizes...that's what's not fair.