In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

[947EliseChalotte]

It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

Spreads the funding needed out, means those who have worked are not penalised nor are those who didn't. They all have access to a suitable curriculum.

Why is it a punishment to.provide them an education at the level they are at?

No one will be relearning work "from March" or redoing a year because there has been the Easter holidays and a half term since then. The children have only missed a few weeks of school. I know it doesn't feel that way but it's true!

Teachers will do what they always do in September. Assess. Level. Provide support or extension where necessary.

Don't forget teachers always have a wide spread of abilities in every class. The pandemic won't change much about how we plan and work, just how much scaffolding and support some children will need.

They're all disadvantaged whatever they've swotted up on at home. They will badly need the socialisation and community of school. If they're disruptive it won't be because they're bored!

after ten years of Tory underfunding and undermining the better.

Do you think increasing teacher’s salaries resulting in a higher calibre of teacher is the answer?

This thread totally ignores the funding for catch-up tutoring promised by the government.

Do people think that’s not going to happen?

In secondary there are different bands but primary ?

In primary classes children still get divided into groups according to ability or tasks; just slightly more subtly. They'll be in the same room sitting at tables with names like Green and Yellow or Cats and Dogs.

Why penalise children who have got behind through no fault of their own

It really isn’t a penalty to extend the length of their education so they can thrive at their own pace and achieve the highest they are capable of.

Do people think that’s not going to happen?

Now, what possible reason could anyone have for not taking anything promised by this Government at face value? Or thinking that what was guaranteed by them to be a diamond, would very likely turn out to be glass?

The funding for catch up works out at like £80 a child and schools have to fund a proportion too. Schools can't afford to fund their share.

@noblegiraffe

This thread totally ignores the funding for catch-up tutoring promised by the government.

Do people think that’s not going to happen?

I don't think government tuition is a reason to ignore homeschooling or something that should be relied on.

No, I’m sure the tutoring will be a sticking plaster over a missing limb but it hasn’t even been brought up and dismissed on a thread about catch-up.

Is it another thing parents aren’t aware of?

just slightly more subtly. They'll be in the same room sitting at tables with names like Green and Yellow or Cats and Dogs.
Interesting and hopeful idea. My kid’s class changes the tables every four weeks. I’ve been told by the teacher that one of my DC’s is one of the top achievers in his class. He spent most of the year sitting at a table with a child who struggled so much, he eventually moved to a special needs unit.

@noblegiraffe I read something about the catch up funding, but I thought it was only for the already disadvantaged children (ie, those who already pupil premium etc). Is it for everyone?

The catch up funding is aimed at disadvantaged children and isn't a great deal of money. It will get entirely absorbed by those children and not impact on the children on here we constantly hear about where the parents were too busy to manage two to four hours of learning anywhere in the day because the parents were working.

I havr a ds4 who only went back to nursery a few weeks back. We had no idea of what he was working on so let him find his own level, hes currently using a reading scheme and on the 5-6 year old books, he's jumped a level plugging away on his own and is attempting the next one. He's gone back to nursery and is now on flashcards again 😂. I'm hoping when he starts school they will work around him. I know when i was in school they did work to try and encourage the children at higher levels etc

I thought the curriculum had been officially suspended on 23rd March?

My secondary school dc have been ploughing on with the curriculum. Generally they can study independently and have followed the work set by the school. One is yr10 and I would be quite concerned if they had just downed tools. A bit different in primary school.

I don't think teachers will really be able to judge where children are until September. One of mine on paper has done very little of the work set but has for the first time in his education done work just differentiated to his level. He is probably further ahead than before but there was little point in him just doing the revision tasks set.

I used to be a teacher and currently work as a home tutor for Primary aged children but I have really struggled with homeschooling my Year 7 and Year 8 DCs.

As someone up post commented, it has been the learning of new concepts in e.g. Physics that has been particularly baffling and frustrating. Added to that are 2 hormonal youngsters, it has been so much harder than I first envisaged.

The DC's teachers have been extremely supportive and understand how difficult this time has been for everyone and they've worked very hard throughout lockdown.

At their school they only set (pre lockdown) for Maths and I think my two will remain in their original sets.

I know it will be impossible to consolidate when they return in September as the curriculum will march on, as far as I know.
But there will be big gaps.

@947EliseChalotte

Just wondering why your kids haven't done any home learning OP? Were you WFH, or ill, or no internet/books etc?

I wouldn't worry about the ones who have done home learning being bored they will just be ahead of the game - some children are always ahead of the game due to lots of reasons..... brighter/parents that encourage or push home learning/private tuition/access to books or internet.... advantage comes in many forms

The idea that teachers have a class full of students that are all at the same level ......

The idea that teachers have a class full of students that are all at the same level ......

I don’t believe anyone thinks this. The OP’s question is about the gaps being even larger than before. One PP said her child thrived learning at home and is now doing work two years ahead. Another has said her child hasn’t done anything. It is a good issue to discuss.

@Sittingontheveranda

after ten years of Tory underfunding and undermining the better.

Do you think increasing teacher’s salaries resulting in a higher calibre of teacher is the answer?

Do you think that "underfunding" refers to teachers' salaries?

Do you think that "underfunding" refers to teachers' salaries?

I think money is an incentive to go into the profession or not as with all careers.

The bright kids who have done their homelearning

Only bright kids have been working whilst at home? Really?

@Sittingontheveranda

Do you think that "underfunding" refers to teachers' salaries?

I think money is an incentive to go into the profession or not as with all careers.

But that's not what was being said.

And anyway, teachers' pay is notoriously crap for the level of qualification and training required and the workload once in the job. It's certainly not an incentive to enter the profession and CERTAINLY not an incentive to remain, if the numbers leaving within 5 years are anything to go by.