In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

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It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

@noblegiraffe I get it. And it's part of your job and skills to engage your bored year 9 class. And some parents are doing naff all (o particularly hate the post on the Family Lockdown FB group where someone reveals they are on furlough and their 7 and 11 year olds have done nothing and literally.a thousand posters jump on to say 'me too' and 'well done anyway hun' and 'they'll.all be in the same boat, the teachers will catch them up' and 'it's all about life skills' as if someone who couldn't be bothered with a worksheet would otherwise be doing engaging nature walks and teaching to bake).

BUT DH and I are lucky enough to be educated enough to engage with school.content and able to work full time from home. We also have 4 dcs from toddler to primary school age and it has been BRUTAL, with shifts from 5am through to.11pm - so yes, it really did matter to us at the start when we just got a link.to.Oak.Academy and nothing more, I don't have the time or skills to tailor three timetables based on Bitesize/Twinkl etc while trying to hold down a job based around video calls while.trying to care for a very energetic 18 month old. For families without enough resources, skills or confidence that would be even harder, and many of these families have been pretty abandoned.

As earlier, it also revealed to me that despite having very dedicated and skilled teachers, large and enormously mixed ability classes at my DCs' school are clearly not helping them to achieve their potential. In 2 hours a day of home learning my two.more typical kids have started doing the work of their siblings in years above and my ds2, with additional needs but strong academic skills, has been doing the maths in particular aimed at many years above and is in heaven. I'm not a very skilled teacher (my children keep.me modest by reminding me frequently how poorly I understand everything from digraphs to polarity!), but have more time than their overstretched, under-resourced class teachers. It's sad for them that they could do more, but even sadder for the children who are struggling but could meet expectations or beyond if they only had more time.and attention - and sadder again that many will have fallen even further behind and got even less engaged after their parents, their schools or both have been unable or.unwilling to.keep up their education in this time.

Teachers know how to teach to groups of different ability levels, even in primary. They can even teach different year groups in the same class so I doubt this will cause much of an issue to a trained and skilled teacher.

YABU therefore, and also YABU to make the assumption that bright kids will have been doing the home working. Maybe there are other bright kids who haven’t been able to do the work for any number of reasons and maybe there will be not so bright kids done everything set.

Genuine question.

My DC are set 3 tasks a day, Engligh, science, Maths. Ie year 2 DD, describe a habitat, draw a picture. Write a poem etc
DH and I complete the tasks set each week with DD and DS.

DC are normally in a class of 30, as they have our full attention during these tasks, can we hope that they are not behind with their learning? Or would more normally be achieved in a school day? Obviously neither of us are teachers but we do our best...

Question might sound odd, but wondering if we should be doing more? It is a struggle, both working FT and they don't really want to do their work with us. DD is quite brutal and says she prefers her real teacher!

@Stuckforthefourthtime cross post - but similar points !

if you can do it, why the hell can’t the other teachers? Why are parents doing TWO full jobs so teachers can just do the home schooling and no work?

Many teachers have been in school, full time, or part time on a rota. They have set work, marked work, answered emails, reported safeguarding concerns, followed up on non submission of work, phoned students, visited homes of vulnerable students, delivered food, done planning, created lessons, searched for online content, developed resources etc etc etc. I am sure some have done nothing at all but it is certainly not the case amongst my colleagues and friends who teach. Many teachers have been personally affected by Covid, some are very ill or have been very ill. Others have lost family members. Some are officially shielding or very vulnerable. Life has continued - so teachers have been diagnosed with other illnesses, have had babies, have had to support elderly, disabled and vulnerable family members, have had drains block, washing machines die, pipes burst etc. We have experienced the pandemic in the same way as everyone else, with the same fears and frustrations as everyone else.

Fundamentally, you fail to see or understand that there is way more to what we have been doing during lockdown than just teaching. There are wider issues like access to the tech and essential software, a good enough internet connection, safeguarding concerns with video conferencing used to teach online, problems where families have only one laptop but 3 children needing to homeschool, older children caring for younger siblings where parents are working, Violence and abuse and all that means when it comes to managing the ever-widening education gap.

I did it because my school demanded it of me. I have resigned, I should say, and will not be returning in September. Failure to understand my personal circumstances is up there as part of my reason for resigning - I have literally abandoned my children 3 days a week to teach other people’s. You can’t afford to lose Dedicated and experienced professionals like me but sadly, there seems misunderstanding of the pressures on us by the public generally. Indeed, I have had all sorts thrown at me during this pandemic on here when I have expressed concern for my own children (‘sanctimonious’ was one of the words used) and the vulnerabilities of school staff whilst the pandemic rumbles on. But very few people see the bigger picture so thankfully I have found other work because frankly I no longer feel kindly towards students and their parents who treat us not quite as well as something they have scraped off their shoes. Other school management have made different decisions for their staff so hopefully some teachers have enjoyed the sun in their back gardens whilst getting on with their work on laptops. Who can blame them.

shocker you can be working class and bright and Privileged and not academic 🙄

Doesn’t mean I can do fuck all work, it means I do as much as I can during the day and catch up at night/ at weekends. I don’t see ANY of the many, many teachers I know doing that. Not one.

Just closed my laptop for the day.

I have resigned, I should say, and will not be returning in September.

I’m sorry your school was shit and didn’t look after its staff. We can’t afford to lose good teachers.

Teachers are key workers. They could have and should have sent their own kids to school so they could relieve another 30 parents up to do their jobs.

DH and I are both teachers. However our youngest DC is vulnerable to Covid and his surgeon decided that he should not be in childcare (he is a toddler).

Blanket statements like this do not work as you do not know the situation of everyone. Thankfully schools and their HR departments do.

So many people don’t seem to realise that primary teachers are working in school full time and have been for weeks/months.

OP reeks of smugness, presuming he/she has a perceived “bright” child but I am wondering because of the misspelling of “to” and the misuse of “which” in OP? Makes me think either “troll” or “deluded”....

No @Rentonsstillgettingit - the OP admits in her second post that her DC haven't done any home learning.

My son isn't 'bright' but he's been working every day doing the work set. If they go over it again in September it's a win win for us because he may just actually reach his potential !

@SlipperSwan

So many people don’t seem to realise that primary teachers are working in school full time and have been for weeks/months.

Yep, since 1st January I have been in full-time with a group that is not my class and I still have to set remote working for my own pupils.

Parents who are WFH and teaching their own kids are not doing two full time jobs.
They are doing their wfh and a tiny percentage of the teacher’s job. I know this isn’t ideal and is difficult and tiring. But pretending that helping your own kids complete some school work is the same as being a teacher is ridiculous and shows woeful ignorance.
Schools have been great during this crisis. In all the cases that I know of in RL (not SM) they have gone well above and beyond.

Howabout: glad at least one school was insisting teachers fo some with. Everyone else had to. The fact that you’ve resigned as a result fuels all my arguments about many teachers being lazy and entitled and frankly living in a different world. ‘What I have to work as well as look after my kids, like everyone else? I’m off!’.

Those who can do, those who can’t teach. Never has that been more blatantly obvious.

@changeofheart1234567
Gosh, your post was delightful to read.

Did you happen to keep tabs on all the teachers you spied on for the entire pandemic or are those just examples of when you thought they weren’t doing their jobs?

Don’t forget that teachers were entitled to having time with their own children, or even time to relax in the garden - are you someone who believes that teachers start work at half past 8 and finish at half 3 and have a crate load of holidays a year?

Teachers are not childminders, and whilst the majority of the job is usually child facing, this pandemic has changed the landscape of how things have had to be done. It is entirely possible to plan and prepare at home, and many schools have been operating rota systems to allow teachers space during the pandemic as it’s still very emotional, who are experiencing things in the same way as you. I have seen so so many posts even from friends who have shared memes etc of cheering mums at sending their children back to school. Teachers are professionals with their own management staff who please let me tell you from experience will not be allowing staff to do nothing and treat the pandemic as a holiday.

@changeofheart1234567 I also hope that despite the tone of your post you are someone who appreciates your children’s teachers as I think ‘those who can’t teach’ is one of the most insulting things I have ever read - I’m hopeful that you’ve said this out of frustration from your own situation rather than that you genuinely believe that as I’m confident that most teachers and every single teacher I have ever worked with are professionals who give their life and souls to their vocation, often to the detriment of their own children, work the longest hours and are still so under appreciated.

I’m sorry you’re clearly so frustrated but I hope when you next need your child’s teachers help and they are there to support and help you that you remember what you have said and feel suitably humbled.

Finerumpus: it’s funny because I have the opposite experience. And the amount of negative chat on here, on Facebook, in the press would suggest it is an endemic issue.

Ha e you ever heard of differentiation? It’s what teachers do

Negativity and lack of understanding is endemic on SM amongst certain groups for sure. I know of no schools that haven’t been willing to adapt rapidly as well as go well above and beyond.

As a primary school teacher, I think it would be good to speak to your childs school about ensuring that your child is challenged enough when school starts again. This is an area of concern. Whoever said schools offer differentiated work, many schools scrapped that idea but it was popular a couple of years ago. Not now 😳

Loads of idiotic comments on this thread. Teachers differentiate, as they always do. Why would we punish children who a) have done their homeschooling through boring them or b) have not been able to through leaving them behind?? There are ALWAYS mixed abilities throughout every class, lockdown may have slightly affected individual children's ability within their class but by very little I would think over the timeframe.

Talk of swots in this day and age is infantile and pathetic. OP stating 'we have done none' while seeming to criticise the thought of consolidation seems odd (and surely you could have done something??? I appreciate lots of people have struggled with it, but NONE?)

Everyone has strong opinions on teachers at the moment, either positively or negatively. But rest assured, a good teacher will do their job by differentiating as we do every single day of school. In primary (it will be far, far harder in secondary due to exam syllabus), consolidation is required for a significant cohort of pupils on a consistent basis and the only difference needed is extra reassurance and positivity in class. I imagine we will almost all give this.

I’m a p/t TA. The teacher I’m working with now is in school every day, teaching a bubble who are not in the year group she normally teaches, so not a totally familiar curriculum. She sets work for her own form who are not in school and answers multiple emails a day from them. She has just finished writing reports for her form and is now starting on transition work for her new class for September, which will include calling the children at home and sending out resource packs as well as meeting last years class teacher.
But, yeah, teachers have all been on holiday since March.

Finerumpus: I think the fact that you can’t see the issue is part of the problem:
Everyone bar teachers: I don’t know any teachers doing any work. No marking, no feedback, no contact, no teaching, no work setting or planning, just oak academy links. I can see them during the working day having fun while I do my own job and theirs.
Teachers: well we are all working one million hours a week so fuck off.

Perhaps if teachers who ARE working called out their lazy colleagues, like my kids teachers and all the ones I know and have seen around me over lockdown, the minority who have actually worked wouldn’t be tarred with the same brush. The lazy ones have decimated your profession and the leaders and unions have both allowed this and encouraged it to happen.