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To report this person to their employer for hate speech?

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NickMyLipple · 03/07/2020 20:39

I've attached a screenshot - I am not friends with this person. She does however display her work on social media and she is in her uniform with her lanyard on display in her profile picture and in other photos which are accessible to the public.

It's NHS Values Week and I feel very strongly that if you're going to publically display your workplace you need to be responsible in not making such racist and hateful comments.

I called her out on it and the post has now been deleted.

AIBU to call the HR department and complain, or should I leave it and hope that she thinks carefully before she posts in future?

To report this person to their employer for hate speech?
OP posts:
FizzyGreenWater · 03/07/2020 22:15

Really OP I cannot think coherently about the question of her job until I have seen you put on trial at The Hague for that font. Are you four years old? Get rid of it!!!

donquixotedelamancha · 03/07/2020 22:16

@EnoughAlready2020

Everyone is happy that her job shouldn't be at risk but happy to throw the guy out of the country!

I'm struggling to find that comment. Can you quote which posters said they were happy to see this bloke thrown out of the country? We need to do something about those MNers.

srownbkingirl · 03/07/2020 22:17

I would rather some unethical arseholes were thrown out of the country than innocent people die

Why is throwing people out of the country the answer though? No caution? No fines? No jail time? nothing? Just hold it over their heads that they don't belong in the country?

caoixr · 03/07/2020 22:18

Report it. The more examples we can make of people, the more it will serve as warnings to others that their views are unacceptable.

donquixotedelamancha · 03/07/2020 22:18

I like the cut of your jib, @donquixotedelamancha**

Thankyou. If anonymous posters like myself laying into some random woman doesn't stop racism, I don't know what will. Modesty forbids me from calling myself a hero.

roarfeckingroar · 03/07/2020 22:20

Report to platform. Don't try to ruin someone's career. Are you always such a busy body?Also what on earth is NHS values week!?

DuineArBith · 03/07/2020 22:21

@lockdownbreakdown

You want someone to loose their job and possibly their entire career because they have horrible views? Why not engage and educate instead ? what is this? Stalinist Russia!!!! I think you are worse than she is !
I would. Because this person will be dealing with the general public every day, and if she brings those views to work with her there is a very strong likelihood that she will treat minority ethnic patients badly and discriminate against them, which would be totally unacceptable. Those patients can't wait for her to be educated, and frankly if she has reached adulthood with these horrible views it's going to take one hell of a long time to educate her out of them.
KitKat2020 · 03/07/2020 22:23

@donquixotedelamancha

I hadn’t even considered child abuse in m comment.

My point was ... if you were from a BAME background and your child’s teacher said this, would you trust them to care for your child?

BinkyBoinky · 03/07/2020 22:23

Report. I doubt she's much of a caring person with those views. Probably abusive. Perhaps she should find a new career.

I prefer cancel culture to a racist culture.

FlissMumsnet · 03/07/2020 22:24

Hi All,

We're just nipping in to say that we've had tons of reports about the tone and direction of this thread and we'd like to enlist your help to keep things on track.
We want the conversation to flow, of course, and there's clearly a debate to be had here but we've made so many deletions already that this thread is likely to be removed if things don't change gear soon.

EnoughAlready2020 · 03/07/2020 22:25

Everyone is worried about the lady committing suicide? What about the brown and black people that read comments like that? Oh yes - no one cares about them...

donquixotedelamancha · 03/07/2020 22:25

Report it. The more examples we can make of people, the more it will serve as warnings to others that their views are unacceptable.

This. Any unacceptable views must be crushed. It's really important to give the governement and employers more power over individuals. Doing so will definitely imporve the changes of vulnerable minorities- nothing bad ever came from informing on each other.

MoreCookiesPlease · 03/07/2020 22:26

I would report her, OP. She seems horrid.

donquixotedelamancha · 03/07/2020 22:27

I hadn’t even considered child abuse in m comment.

You don't consider an authority figure telling a child to go home verbal abuse? I do.

My point was ... if you were from a BAME background and your child’s teacher said this, would you trust them to care for your child?

And I completely agree. It's exactly the same thing as a deleted comment on SM.

KitKat2020 · 03/07/2020 22:30

That what I mean. I hadn’t even fully considered that. Now you mention it...

Gobb · 03/07/2020 22:32

I hate the way she swears as well. So aggressive Imagine if you had a vulnerable child and she swore like that at them, or if someone was dying and she used language like that. Completely unacceptable. I think she should be reported and then if she doesn't get fired, start a campaign against her. Maybe we can hack into her Alexa and get more examples of her filthy language at home.

BinkyBoinky · 03/07/2020 22:32

[quote donquixotedelamancha]@EnoughAlready2020

Everyone is happy that her job shouldn't be at risk but happy to throw the guy out of the country!

I'm struggling to find that comment. Can you quote which posters said they were happy to see this bloke thrown out of the country? We need to do something about those MNers.[/quote]
It's in the general attitude of the posters here. Ignoring the crap she spouted but Oh, the poor woman shouldn't be punished. How awful for her! It's FASCISM how people don't like it when you're hateful!

donquixotedelamancha · 03/07/2020 22:34

That what I mean. I hadn’t even fully considered that. Now you mention it...

Ah, I understand. Still, doesn't change anything: thoughts and actions are exactly the same thing and the government should regulate both.

KitKat2020 · 03/07/2020 22:34

SM comments can be deleted, but they have still been said in a public domain.

IWillNotNameTheTree · 03/07/2020 22:35

She knows the social media policy, she read the code of conduct. She posted a racist comment regardless. Report her.

Not surprised to see the amount of posters defending this racism either. Disgusting.

wellhellohi · 03/07/2020 22:35

If she is a healthcare professional. Then yes she has done something wrong by sharing that view and also representing her profession on social media. Her employer will have a policy on it which she will have broken. If she is in a registered profession her view will potentially bring disrupt to the profession.

CluelessBaker · 03/07/2020 22:37

Do it. You only have to look at the fact that people of colour have worst healthcare outcomes in virtually all settings to know why racists shouldn’t be working for the NHS. There is every reason why her employers should know about it.

Evelefteden · 03/07/2020 22:37

Can you imagine the day when your employer is able to check your thoughts and you can only work there if you are the purest of the pure..

I think every fucker would be out of a job to be honest.

donquixotedelamancha · 03/07/2020 22:38

Ignoring the crap she spouted but Oh, the poor woman shouldn't be punished. How awful for her!

Couldn't agree more. Where do these posters get the idea that OP wanted them to comment on whether it was OK to find this woman's details and contact her employer? That's not the point of the thread at all.

It's FASCISM how people don't like it when you're hateful!

The real Fascists are those who don't want servere punishment for unacceptable opinions based on being reported by concerned citizens.

Squeezylemon · 03/07/2020 22:39

I haven't read that article, does it say that the people breaking the law aren't from this country?
If so, are you saying she is racist for saying people not from this country that break the law should be kicked out?