Hut tub dilemma

[Cuntycovid]

As did half the country we decided to get a hot tub during lockdown , its causing no end of problems with the neighours though

We have lived in the same new build home for a while , friends with the neighbours no problems whatsoever and generally get on well. Dont socialise together but always pleasant exchanges so no problems , we turn a blind eye to some antisocial behaviour on their part. mainly smoking weed in their garden that blows into ours because on the whole they are good people , no loud parties or noise from theirs ect

They seem however to have taken exception to our hot tub as they dont like what they call a loud humming sound that they can hear , we are at a loss what to do about this as we canny move the hottub anywhere else in the garden , we have a large decking for garden furniture /bbq and a home made bar that take up the other spaces in the garden , my husband has spent a considerable time putting electric cables in the garden so repositioning this would be out of the question, we are mindful not to put the jets on after 11pm (checked with local council and this is the time that noise wouldnt be acceptable after) we also spent a fair whack on a set up so we would not consider not using this
Any suggestions other than moving house ?
AiBU for wanting to enjoy my garden ?
Neighbour came.round fairly angry knocking on door

If your hot tub is private and you aren't having drunken gatherings in there late at night it wouldn't bother me. It is those who dump a huge hot tub in the middle of a undersized garden with no privacy and have no respect for their neighbours late at night trying to get/keep their very young dc asleep that does bother me

I'm learning so much about hot tubs from this thread. Can't help OP as no idea how they work, but I would say that some people seem to be oblivious to their own noise (perhaps you in this scenario?!). Our neighbours have a horribly squeaky swing, I pretty much have to go indoors if the kids use it for any length of time as it's a horrible grating noise, not very loud tbf just nails on a blackboard type nerve jangling. It clearly doesn't bother them, so I guess they would have no idea how I feel about it. So maybe that's why they can hear it but you can't iykwim. If I was listening to the swing 24/7 I'd probably be round there hammering on their door too!

It also those same people that cut their grass and jet wash their conservatories after 8pm on a weekday..

I think playing music in your garden is incredibly selfish and antisocial. And making noise up until 11pm is also very selfish.

And just to reiterate what many others have said, I doubt that anyone is jealous of your hot tub, outdoor bar and range rover.

What other things do you have that everyone else is jealous of? A massive gas powered barbecue maybe? You really are #livingyourbestife aren't you hun.

What a load of preachy judgemental posts on here. I think people who don’t like or understand them seem to resort to calling them sex ponds which Is quite frankly just ignorant. We’ve had ours 4 years.Bought to give one of our children pain relief through hydrotherapy. It is fabulous for muscles, and as an added benefit we all enjoy it. Sitting with a glass of bubbly as dusk sets in & watching the bats & stars is lovely. I would rather not have needed to have it but now we have and see the benefit. If others did I think they may be more tolerant for others enjoying the benefits. Oh and ours is crystal clear & water well managed.

Can you test them to see if they are bullshitting or not. Switch it off one night, say you made a small change and ask if they can still hear the noise. If they say yes they are bullshitting you since you know it was switched off.

Also, just as some advice - don't leave it on a high temp all the time if you are only using it 3/4 times a week. You need to leave the filter/pump on to keep the water clean but I wouldn't keep it heated constantly - with ours if we aren't going to use it, we turn it down to 30 - so hot enough for the chemicals to still work (I think it just needs to be above 20) but it isn't going a fortune in electricity.

Then when we know we want to use it, bump it up.

What you don't want to do it stop heating it completely and allow it to go cold as then firstly the chemicals won't work correctly and it costs considerably more to heat it up from cold. It's better to keep it at a warm temp when boost it up when required.

Ours only costs around 50p a day to run, so around £15 a month.

Anyone else imagining OP as a modern day Hyacinth Bouquet? "We have room for a hot tub, a bar and an Evoque don't you know" (disclaimer: I have no particular views on any of those items)

'If others did I think they may be more tolerant for others enjoying the benefits.'

If others 'enjoying the benefits' means drunken antics late into the night no just no. I.don't think anybody is complaining about people having them in a large private secluded garden where it isnt disturbing anybody.

I'd have no issue with you having a hot tub or the noise/smells associated with it. But you do sound like you're being antisocial in your use of it. Admittedly so are your neighbours with smoking weed (unless it's medicinal), but two wrongs don't make a right.

Boxing in the pump sounds sensible and hopefully that helps.

But you really do need to consider your neighbours and limit your outdoor noise. Regularly making noise in your garden up until 11pm, especially at this time of year when people have windows open, isn't reasonable at all. I'd never begrudge my neighbours making noise between 9am-9pm. And I wouldn't begrudge my neighbours having the odd party etc or making noise early/late every so often so long as it wasn't ridiculously loud. But your pattern of useage would definitely start to grate on me, especially at the moment when lots of people are home a lot of the time.

Hot tubs in back gardens are essentially vulgar

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How can anyone want to sit in hot water in this heat! 🤔

My neighbours have one of these and it’s 3 feet away from my fence. Noisy humming all day added to the jets on until 11 sometimes 12 at night coupled with the screeching over the jets to each other means in the heat windows in here are closed so no air getting in. Also you can hear it/them over the tv so that needs turning up. It’s selfish and thoughtless to put it so near someone else’s property. My 6?year old is constantly wakened by their yakking and bubbles. It sucks/they suck.

@TheHighestSardine

£70 a month for the electricity to run the thing? Wow. Turning it off as much as possible is a no-brainer. Use it three times a week? Spend £30 on a timer switch that'll set it going six hours before you'll want it, it'll then cost you £20/week or less and stop pissing off the neighbours.

Also box in the humming part - pump or voltage rectifier? - or even bury it (in a plastic box) in a hole with a lid, that'll very effectively cut the noise.

Playing music on a phone is worse than quietly on a decent portable stereo, as it's tinny and awful. Can't bear phone music myself, and find it desperately antisocial.

Depending on the starting temperature 6 hours probably isn't enough. It takes about an hour a degree or thereabouts so if it's cool in the morning six hours is not enough Getting the balance right between costing a fortune and it being the right temperature with the unpredictable uk weather can be tricky!

I love getting my vulgar on in my sex pond with my husband. No one else is allowed in. Especially cobwebbed mingey moaners.

So if on the odd occasion we have friends round you think its anti social to play music on a low level in the garden? You csnt be serious ? Is any noise acceptable.in your world? Do your children tip toe round the house?

I think it's inconsiderate for one person to inflict their musical taste on their neighbours outdoors, except for one-off events like the occasional party, which no-one minds. Iirc (and I can't be arsed to go back and check) when you mentioned playing music on your phone you made no mention of "the odd occasion", so I got the impression that this was something you did routinely when using the hot tub.

There's what I regard as a normal amount of noise where I live: children playing, lawns being mown, cars, pressure washers, building work, dogs barking occasionally, plus sheep, chickens and, in the early mornings, the clip-clop of racehorses being road worked round the estate (sometimes accompanied by a bit of whinnying and the occasional swearing when one of them gets a bit "spirited" ); there's also an abnormal amount of firework noise.

In some ways, it's noisier here than when I lived in London, because most people where I lived were out at work. Here, it's a mix of older people and young families with a SAHP, so a lot more coming and going during the day, even pre-Covid. But in the evenings it is blissfully, beautifully quiet. Sometimes, the loudest thing I can hear is the skylarks.

No children here, thank goodness, but I do like to hear them playing in their gardens (no trampolines, thankfully ).

Yes, my neighbours has put it right next to my fence, which is also 12 inches away from my patio doors and against the wall, under our bedroom window. So selfish. So when my patio doors are open we can hear every word they say when in it. When I sit on my patio, with the fence to my left, they are literally 1 metre away away from me!!! they play their music out the window, so all I get is that too.

Playing music on a phone is worse than quietly on a decent portable stereo, as it's tinny and awful. Can't bear phone music myself, and find it desperately antisocial

Agree 100%. There is nothing worse than music from a phone. It's horrible.
I wonder if that's what's annoying your NDNs more?
It is very antisocial but unless someone is having a party, and told me in advance (that's fine), I think music in a neighbour's garden is an awful thing to inflict on everyone in the area.

Having experienced the true hell of properly bad neighbours I have little sympathy- I would have dreamed of the hum of a hot tub being the worst of it!

Large out of control staffy type dogs jumping fence and shitting in our garden
Gangsta rap
Constant drunken fights in garden and street
Undesirables congregating on front step so you run the gamut of them whenever you went anywhere
Smoking drugs in garden constantly
Always there as none worked

We moved

So sad to see how fast this descended into class war-style insults. Even if the OP was indisputably wrong, what is the excuse for assassinating her character and supposed class?

Someone I know is getting one but they have a large detached house and wide garden so the neighbours shouldn't be disturbed by it , or them. A noise like you describe would drive me mad too to be honest. We had a tiny pond from the previous owners and the pump made a low humming noise : my neighbours were so pleased when we got rid of that when we moved in and re homed the two fish ! Noises can be annoying.
Hot tubs are also hard work with the cleaning and buying of products to upkeep them all. People forget all this needs doing / buying too!
I can see the appeal of them , but they can be antisocial too.

My neighbour::
Moved in and painted their side of my new natural looking wooden fence (fine), but also painted the top bright red!!!
Keeps us awake all night, shouting at kids and kids shouting back at her till 2 in morning.
Now ex Partner shouting her from downstairs so we now know her as SAAARRAAHHHH.
Works nights so leaves kids alone all night so they of course invite teenage friends who party till 3am on a regular basis.
Trampoline next to our fence so kids stare at us when on it
Hot tub next to our fence and under our bedroom window.
Plays music in the house so she can hear it in the garden.
Plays music so loud at 7.30 in the morning I can hear the words to the songs on the other side of my house.
Allows son to play football against my new fence and breaking it in several places.
I hate them with a passion.

Tabby
That sounds truly horrific. There are some horrible people around aren't there
I hate them too and I don't know them

@qwertyuiop098

So sad to see how fast this descended into class war-style insults. Even if the OP was indisputably wrong, what is the excuse for assassinating her character and supposed class?

I agree. I'm sure everyone is enjoying their bashing, and in fairness to the OP she seems robust enough to shrug it off (as well she should!)

But seriously, it screams of insecurity and over investement in some outdated idea of class, and a need to have people to look down on. These comments are ridiculous: chav, tacky, tastless, I'd never etc etc, couldn't bear to live next to one, they make me feel ill...

Completey bonkers reaction. Totally class based and totally rooted in insecurity and need to 'keep people in their place'.

I live in a row of small cottages with small gardens. All of my neighbours have either kids, dogs, or some combination of the two. I would not expect, nor am I entitled to, the fabled peace and quiet beloved of mumsnetters in their garden. I get reasonable levels of human noise and interaction from all sides. If I need absolute silence I would have to look elsewhere for it, not in a terraced garden.

you'll get a lot of very sneery, snobby comments from people who claim to be "genuinely curious" about why anyone would enjoy a hot tub, despite the fact it's a popular growing market, and most people on here seem to have a neighbour with one!
Everyone I know with neighbours with overlooked/smallish gardens who have a hot tub are complaining about them.

Same with trampolines!