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Was she a terrible hostess, or was I a rude guest?

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PeopleAreAllWeveGot · 22/06/2020 09:05

Im hoping someone might be able to help me to understand something that’s been really bothering me for almost a year now, whenever I think of it. I’ve name changed but long time member (penis beaker, cancel the cheque etc).

Last year, my dh and I went to stay with a Uni friend of his and his wife, & 2 kids.

I had met his mate a few times and he was nice. They’d been at our wedding but aside from brief hellos and thanks for coming I hadn’t spoken to his wife much.

I’d had our third child 3 months before we visited, so was feeling pretty fuzzy the entire time, but I can’t stop thinking about how awful his wife was to me when we were there! Whenever it pops into my head I wonder how I could have handled it better. And also whether I somehow misread the situation.

Mi dh had last visited them 10 years earlier, around the time I met him. I’d heard all about this trip, and the fact he’d chatted up a girl in a bar there and she’d not been interested (we were friends when we first got to know each other, because his long term ex had hurt him badly and he didn’t want to get serious too soon. Massively overshared with each other, but that’s another thread). It wasn’t a huge deal, he was talking about other girls he’d been chatting up in the next breath (!) And then a few months later, after i’d put a stop to the “friendship” and he’d done a bit of dating with others, he got back in touch and we ended up together. Now been married many years.

Anyway, back to this woman. Literally the first thing she spoke about, in front of some of their extended family who were there, was his last visit. But it was ALL about this girl he’d chatted up. She knew who the girl was from her husband (they live in a very small place). And she made a point of finding the girls picture online (local businessman’s daughter it seems) and showing everyone there while saying repetitively and loudly “she is totally out of your league! No wonder you didn’t get anywhere!!!”. She showed me the picture too, anything else would have been rude 😳 I was sort of “ah yes she’s lovely”, in a bemused way. She did say “not that you’re in his league. But you’ve just had a baby so...”

I thought that was probably just a bit of an unguarded weird moment from the wife. But over the course of a 3 night stay, she literally made a point of telling me 3 times that she’d really really liked Dh’s ex (who she had met just once at their wedding 12 years ago, and who’s name she had forgotten). Like REALLY lovely girl. She REALLY REALLY liked her. Ive net the girl and she’s very nice. I have nothing against her. It just felt so so over the tip and fake coming from this woman, especially as she genuinely had to be reminded the first time she said it who the ex was, what she looked like, and what her name was.

She was an amazing host to my kids and husband, like outstandingly welcoming and lovely. She is an incredible cook. She took us to meet their friends, and made efforts to keep us entertained. Their home was immaculate. There was just this glitch in the matrix when it came to me!

Honestly, I got the feeling she was actively trying to make me feel like crap. We were guests so of course I was just friendly and didn’t respond to the strange comments.

One morning my husband let me sleep in while he took the baby and the two kids on a walk. Friends wife made a hugely pointed comment when I came downstairs at 10, I can’t remember what it was but I got the very strong impression she thought I was the rudest guest in existence because I hadn’t woken early. Is it terrifically rude to sleep in when ones a guest? I wouldn’t usually do it, ever, but I was exhausted with the baby and it was such a lovely holiday treat I let it happen.

Basically when we left I felt so relieved never to have to see this woman again. But every few months the trip pops into my head and the full horror of it washes over me. AIBU for feeling like this? It makes me want to message her and say “that was a really tough time, and I can’t believe anyone would be such a bitch! Is it because I was huge and exhausted and you saw someone weak to prod? Because that makes you evil.” But obviously I won’t.

So, AIBU for thinking she was being bitchy? Or are these normal things to say and I was exhausted and being overly sensitive? Is it so rude for a guest to lie in, that they deserve to be put in their place? If she WAS being a cow, why would someone do that?

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Margerine78 · 23/06/2020 17:49

She sounds like a Class A Bitch, and perhaps one of those men's women (so lovely and jovial to your husband but horrible to you). Definitely her and not you.

Also sleeping in when on holiday - and after having a baby - is totally understandable. If she was a decent host she'd be happy you were relaxing.

Localocal · 23/06/2020 17:49

That sounds awful, OP. I'm sorry you had to deal with that with all the exhaustion of a new baby. I think it was sporting of you to go on a visit at that point at all.

Your hostess sounds very competitive and insecure, and was trying to mark her territory with your husband. Not very nice, but try to see this as her problem and not let it be yours. You can't control what she said, but you can choose to let the past be the past and do not visit them again.

As for sleeping until 10, unless there were specific morning plans agreed the night before, any nice mum would be happy for a new mum to get a little rest. I'm sure your husband explained you had been up with the baby - nothing more needed to be said. But again, competitive person will seek any advantage.

I actually like it when house guests have a little lie-in. It gives me time to get the housework done and anything else I want to do before putting the hostess hat back on.

CallmeBadJanet · 23/06/2020 17:57

@PeopleAreAllWeveGot
A good host would have let a mother of a newborn, with 2 other children stay in bed, taken her a cup of tea and some toast! A long lie in is usually fine when you know people really well, so maybe she thought it was rude, but it wasn't. She was thoughtless, rude and inappropriate. But you've got to get it out of your head. She's a nobody, there is no way you'll go back there. Write a letter, get it all out on paper. Then tear it up/shred it and throw it away. Carry on with your life and be grateful that you are not bonkers like her. Life's too short to let insecure people ruin yours

cheeseontoastwithonions · 23/06/2020 17:58

She is not a great host she made you feel so shit you're still thinking about it now. My guess is she's jealous, perhaps has a thing for your DH.
She's a bitch!

As for having a sleep in, no way wools I be bothered. As a new mother with a little baby, you'd have got breakfast in bed at my
home!

Celestine70 · 23/06/2020 18:14

Jesus Christ she had a baby and two other young kids and she slept until 10. Call the police!!! Some of you are vile. Yes the woman was bitchy. Maybe she fancies your husband? Who knows, just try and forget it and don't go back there.

BarbedBloom · 23/06/2020 18:20

She sounds unpleasant. I wouldn't think anything of a guest sleeping in till 10. We don't have kids so to us that isn't late

chatterbugmegastar · 23/06/2020 18:30

She sounds seriously unhinged. As if she's ill - a weird ill woman

You need to let it go , though. Write her a letter. Lay it all out - every last little feeling. And then burn the paper

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 23/06/2020 18:31

Also sleeping in when on holiday - and after having a baby - is totally understandable. If she was a decent host she'd be happy you were relaxing.

They weren't on holiday though we're they? They were staying with friends.

Our friends live abroad and people often go out to visit. When we went over they commented on how nice it was that we pitched in - offered to.make tea, did the washing up, looked after their children for a bit - because their other guests did view it like a hotel and expected to be waited on hand and foot.

Yes, op had a young baby but this lady had children too. Maybe she did feel put upon having to get breakfast for everyone, possibly give ops husband a hand (did he wash, dress and feed three young children on his own?) getting the children sorted while trying to get her own kids sorted. She wasn't the hired help was she?

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 23/06/2020 18:33

As for having a sleep in, no way wools I be bothered. As a new mother with a little baby, you'd have got breakfast in bed at my
home!

Maybe the hostess, as a mother herself, might have appreciated a lie in and breakfast in bed?

Twigletmama · 23/06/2020 18:36

Whenever we stay with friends, or have other people stay with us, it is the norm for only one parent from each family to get up with the kids. This is usually decided by who is the most hungover!

WorkHardPlayHard1 · 23/06/2020 18:37

Hi there aw honestly you need to let this go. But learn the lesson that she's a mean cow/jealous. If you ever need to see her again it will be too soon! I think she fancied your husband at some point and took it out on you. Smile to yourself on that. 😄

areyoubeingserviced · 23/06/2020 18:37

This is why I always stay in hotels when I visit friends in other towns

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 23/06/2020 18:39

doA territorial insecure Queen Bee, trying to display her dominance by putting down both you and your husband. She sounds awful and was picking on you because you were a vulnerable outsider. All the crap about ex girlfriends being out of his league and other women's attractiveness is entirely her problem. The lie in business was just her wrong footing you. And I think slightly resenting that your OH was doing something so nice for you. It was her problem not yours. It might have been ressentful hosting, or she might have suspected that her OH was having an affair or something.. you'll probably never know.
Your OH hadn't visited them in 10 years so they are not that important in his life. And you've talked it through with him and
It must have hurt for you to still be thinking about it, but you said you tried to be friendly and didn't rise to the bait and I think that was the right approach to show she wasn't getting to you. Please don't text her and give her behaviour anymore weight. She would love to know her barbs hit home. If you ever meet again, you will be forewarned and in a better position
Hopefully this exercise will exorcise the whole experience and you can move on and forget all about it. "She a'int worf it!"

mousey37 · 23/06/2020 18:39

I can’t believe people are saying you’re rude for staying in bed until 10am. I’m sure you wouldn’t have done it if there were plans. You were on holiday and with a three month old, third child you absolutely deserved it. I don’t have children and I’d be determined to take the child off you so you could have a rest. Smile. Sounds like she was jealous of you. This is why my partner and I would prefer to stay in a hotel to someone’s house.

Vickie89 · 23/06/2020 18:41

Here's my theory, (and I haven't read other people's posts) I reckon you got the third baby that she didnt & was totally jealous! You did good holding your tongue, considering you just had a baby. 😊

Vickie89 · 23/06/2020 18:44

Oh & you wasn't rude at all. Thank god you dont have to see her again. 😅

oldspaniel · 23/06/2020 18:50

She sounds like a dick, most people couldn't care less if guests sleep on. The mentioning of a girl who was out of his league is very weird, bring on the sarcasm. Yes I'm still in shock that he even looked at me, he's out of my league and I'm so lucky he threw me a crumb of attention, please show me more pics of the stunner who got away.
If she gets into your head, laugh at her.

gamerchick · 23/06/2020 19:00

hearhooves I hope you don't host, you have some weird views on how guests should behave. Breakfast in bed for the host indeed, talk about embarrassing Hmm personally I like it if guests have a good kip. Means I have a comfortable bed.

OP I hope you get your day with a big fuck off if you ever have to clap eyes on her again and that goes for your bloke as well. She basically told him he was an ugly fucker.

Choccylips · 23/06/2020 19:04

She was bitchy and as for her hosting its like giving someone a turd covered in chocolate.

VincentVanGoo · 23/06/2020 19:05

She sounds bloody bonkers more than anything. And I wouldn't mind in the slightest if someone staying with me had a lie-in until 10 and left me in peace (given your husband was looking after the children, you weren't expecting her to entertain them). I'm the opposite, feel so uncomfortable staying in someone else's house that I'm awake at 5.30 and lying there rigid for fear of waking anyone else. Whole thing makes me shudder though - my exH was very sociable and liked to visit friends overnight and have friends to stay. Both were a refined form of torture to me! Now I don't have to have anyone to stay, or vice versa, except my very nearest and dearest... Or have anyone over for a meal ... Or basically see anyone socially Blush It's bliss.

VincentVanGoo · 23/06/2020 19:06

Never mind misogynistic, I think I'm just misanthropic Grin Forget her though, just never go there again Wink

Charlotteskye · 23/06/2020 19:09

My opinion is she has her eyes on your husband and she is immensly jealous of you . Keep away from her. Never see them again.

Thinkingabout1t · 23/06/2020 19:14

Oh god, the loons are out in force. "Mysogynistic" indeed. I think OP was setting the scene that it was otherwise perfect hosting. And why shouldn't you sleep till ten when you have the chance because dh had taken the kids out? Bloody hell

Yes, those comments puzzled me too, Flossie. I'd be delighted if a guest with a three-month-old baby slept till 10am at my house. I don't mind when visitors get up -- relaxing is part of the break.

OP, she was obnoxious and has dreadful manners, so not such a great hostess. I would just forget about it now, and just be blandly polite if you bump into her again.

Definitely don't contact her about it, and don't ask her about it even if the opportunity comes up. Just ditch it the way you'd throw out anything useless and unpleasant.

I hope discussing it here and knowing most people sympathise with you helps you feel better.

spokeinthewheel · 23/06/2020 19:16

She sounds beyond insane and it makes you wonder how some women get through life.

jwpetal · 23/06/2020 19:17

Give yourself a big hug and let it go. It happened. I wonder if this comes up when your are feeling stressed or tired? Try to figure out when it happens and the trigger and deal with the emotion that comes up. Write all your feelings and thoughts and burn it. Ymit is done and you are strong.

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