To suggest a campaign for a referendum on the death penalty for child abusers?

[TheVoiceOfReasonableness]

I’m a professional (I’m not going to reveal my capacity as it could be too outing) but let’s just say it is within the criminal justice system.

I have been involved with many cases of historic child abuse and child abuse images.

Although I could never voice this opinion publicly, because of my job, I really do think that we ought to consider the death penalty for child abusers.

The problem is, they can’t be cured.

The courses and “treatment” programmes that exist both inside and out of prison are geared towards “minimising risk” of committing further offences and are designed to give paedophiles “strategies” for avoiding “risky situations”. These only work if the paedophile is actually motivated not to hurt children.

The problem is paedophiles are extremely manipulative and are often quite intelligent.

They know what the offender manager (the modern term for a Probation Officer) wants to hear and may be saying all the right things while secretly still believing that there is nothing wrong with what they do.

The death penalty for child rape can easily be justified in my opinion. Arguably it is a worse crime than murder as the victim has to
live with the trauma of what has been done to them and it really does ruin lives permanently.

Now that we have left the EU (I voted remain, but every cloud has a silver lining...) bringing back the death penalty would be just as easy as having another referendum then passing legislation if the majority of the public want it.

We need not go down the American route of spending decades on death row- before we abolished it in the UK in the 1960s you got two appeals and that was it.

As for method- we had the quickest method with hanging and it would be all over in less than 15 seconds. There was no ceremony or last words, your cell was next door to the gallows you would be taken straight through- rope round neck, trapdoor opens, instant death from a broken neck.

Zero reoffending rate.

As for it being in humane and the right to life- innocent people including children die horribly from diseases like cancer all the time. 40,000 have died horribly from Coronavirus. I don’t think snapping the neck of a murderer or rapist who has abused a child to kill them instantly is that horrific TBH

Don’t be fucking ridiculous

No.

We already have “paedophile hunters” livestreaming their version of a trial live on facebook, after which the person is declared guilty with lots of memes with guns and nooses.

We have a legal system. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial. We did away with the death penalty years ago for a reason.

No, I would not want death penalty back for any crime. Let them stay imprisoned for a long time and on sex offenders register after release.

I’m a professional (I’m not going to reveal my capacity as it could be too outing) but let’s just say it is within the criminal justice system.

Are you Judge Judy?

No. The death penalty is utterly barbaric and has no place in the modern world.

This is also the opinion of one of my best, and oldest friends who’s daughter was murdered by a well known peadophile.

If you actually are a professional within the criminal justice system you will be aware of the concept of “wrongly convicted”? Yes?

Do they deserve to die? Absolutely

Should we bring back the death penalty? No

Jesus no, it’d be a slippery slope

Employing people to murder others causes lifelong trauma.

Murdering someone's loved one causes trauma.

I think you're a fool.

Google Carl Beech... you think his victims should have been put to death ?? Hes not alone you know

Hung drawn and quartered I say.

I never want to see another referendum in this country.

I don't want to see the death penalty reintroduced for anything.

I'm not at all surprised you won't tell us what you do. I just hope you aren't a prison or probation officer.

Yes you are unreasonable

I say that as a survivor of abuse

Have you formed your opinion because you work with offenerer or victims?

A life sentence.

Offenders.

Sometimes people get wrongly convicted ,remember Stefan Kizco? But it's an emotive issue of somebody killed my child i would want them to suffer .

cool story bro 😎

Justice should be about protecting society, not revenge, it should be cold and unemotional. The death penalty does not fit this definition.

I do not support the death penalty for any offence

Kiszco*

Great way to incentivize paedophiles to murder their victims OP! Stellar idea.

After all, if the penalty for child rape was worse than that for murder, why wouldn't you do everything possible to destroy the evidence permanently if you were guilty of the former.

As horrific as child abuse is, no, it isn't worse than taking someone's life and shouldn't be punished as though it were.

The death penalty kills innocent people as well as guilty ones unavoidably and is disproportionately inflicted on less "powerful/privileged" groups eg BAME people, homeless people, poor people, etc.

Your idea comes across as coldly vicious.

Which may be a consequence of things you’ve witnessed in your professional life.

If that’s the case, why garner opinions on the merits of starting a campaign to run a referendum?

If you feel so strongly about killing people, you’ll need to do more about it.

Also, YABU. The death penalty is never justified.

I don't disagree on principle, mainly because life doesn't exist in UK and a lot of the sentencing is ridiculous. However, other changes can be made before we reach that extreme.

The main issue with what you're proposing is that it'll be more beneficial to also kill the child and either not be caught or not risk death if you do.

I definitely get where you're coming from. Campaigning for proper sentencing will garner you more support.

If you are a professional, you are a disgrace to that profession.

There's a lot of peeeeeedo hunters on MN today. Go and find some thick mates on another thread.