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Lockdown is ending and we are off to the shops!!!!!! :)))))))))

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pigeon999 · 15/06/2020 08:09

Yes we can book hair appointments, nail appointments and banish the roots in a matter of weeks. We can shop today!! We are counting down the days to hotels, restaurants and bars opening. We are breaking out.

We have turned a corner in England people!!

The lockdown is ending at long last - so what are you doing today?

OP posts:
understandmenow · 15/06/2020 20:32

No she isnt! Last time she posted on these types of threads she had a husband!

Maybe he is out queuing at Primark @Willow2017 ?

Orangeblossom78 · 15/06/2020 20:32

It could be an idea not to go to crowded places or places where people need to go in single file etc if it worries you? My friend who is shielding simply goes out first thing in the morning when it is quiet and peaceful. It;s a lovely time of day too and she can have the park to herself.

Northernsoulgirl45 · 15/06/2020 20:33

I cannot believe someone has actually posted 'comforting. My DH who's father died yesterday' I mean come on, the OP was clearly upbeat and this thread is full of fucking fun sponges.
Enjoy your shopping OP

Well she ask @ultrababy and no need to criticise someone grieving.

Willow2017 · 15/06/2020 20:33

Maybe he is out queuing at Primark @Willow2017 ?

Grin Grin

forgetthehousework · 15/06/2020 20:35

I've forgotten what I was going to say because I got so carried away reading the subsequent posts.

Very sorry for anyone who is continuing to shield, including a couple of my friends, and particularly for those by themselves; but whether I agree with the lockdown easing or not it has happened, it was always going to happen sometime and we all have to cope with that.

I was sad to read that your parents are frail and elderly Hearhooves and you may not see them again, if you have your own car and they are near enough you'd be in the guidelines to go and at least see them though wouldn't you? I mean they must be shielding too so none of you can have been exposed to any virus at all.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/06/2020 20:36

Although in fairness you've seemed to have found everyone to be wrong, the way they walk, cycle, shop just everything that everyone is doing. And yet the rate continues to fall, amazing really.

It's not to do with numbers falling or not and it's not to do with me finding fault.

Social distancing is still meant to be observed. And I wrote that in response to asking me if I expect non shielding people to not walk.

No, I don't expect that but people should still be observing social distancing because if everyone does what they are meant to do, and considers others, then those of us that are shielding could do the one little thing that we are now allowed to do. But as I said earlier, some people want everything even if it leaves some with nothing. That's been proven by this thread.

understandmenow · 15/06/2020 20:37

@Hearhoovesthinkzebras go early in the morning or later in the evening, it's not busy all the time. You could walk when it's quiet if you wanted to do it enough.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 15/06/2020 20:38

Hearhooves does not live alone
Her husbands a key worker
Apparently

Willow2017 · 15/06/2020 20:38

Orangeblossom78's suggestion was made on many a previous thread did you ever try it Hooves?

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/06/2020 20:38

I was sad to read that your parents are frail and elderly Hearhooves and you may not see them again, if you have your own car and they are near enough you'd be in the guidelines to go and at least see them though wouldn't you? I mean they must be shielding too so none of you can have been exposed to any virus at all.

And that's the problem - I can't get to them and they can't get to me without involving other people, which then breaks shielding.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 15/06/2020 20:39

Clearly I'm asking for too much though right?

Yes.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/06/2020 20:39

@Hobnobswantshernameback

Hearhooves does not live alone Her husbands a key worker Apparently
I've not said that I live alone.
Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/06/2020 20:40

@Willow2017

Orangeblossom78's suggestion was made on many a previous thread did you ever try it Hooves?
What was their suggestion?
Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/06/2020 20:41

@BrightYellowDaffodil

Clearly I'm asking for too much though right?

Yes.

Oh I see, so asking that people maintain social distancing, despite it being a requirement of government, is asking too much? Ok.
Hobnobswantshernameback · 15/06/2020 20:41

There's really no point making suggestions
Save your breath
Anyhooooo
Thread back on track
I'm jealous
No shops open here in Wales
Am desperate for some summer clothes, underwear for the kids and shoes for them
Roll on July

Hobnobswantshernameback · 15/06/2020 20:42

God these threads are like Groundhog Day

Willow2017 · 15/06/2020 20:43

@Orangeblossom78

It could be an idea not to go to crowded places or places where people need to go in single file etc if it worries you? My friend who is shielding simply goes out first thing in the morning when it is quiet and peaceful. It;s a lovely time of day too and she can have the park to herself.
Hearhoovesthinkzebras The one a couple of posts above mine!
NothingIsWrong · 15/06/2020 20:43

I'm going shopping this weekend - Primark / Hobbycraft / local yarn shop / Decathlon and a McDonalds drive thru for meeeee. Kids will be staying at home with DH and I can mooch to my hearts content. I'll try not to lick the door handles...

VeniceQueen2004 · 15/06/2020 20:44

I think people are being pretty horrible to @Hearhoovesthinkzebras who is clearly struggling. Honestly just leave her alone. Go and enjoy yourselves. Don't group kick someone who is clearly very down already. Even if by your lights she is "asking for it" by posting. Just be the bigger person FFS.

Am also slightly bewildered by how many people are thrilled out of their minds to go to the bloody shops. I mean ... Why? Of all the things I've missed during lockdown wandering aimlessly round the town centre is NOT one of them. Still each to their own I suppose...

Now when the pubs reopen; travel restrictions are lifted; and all the cancelled gigs I had booked have new dates, then I'll be a very happy bunny. But the privilege of being able to buy some leggings in person instead of online isn't really doing it for me tbh.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/06/2020 20:45

@Orangeblossom78

It could be an idea not to go to crowded places or places where people need to go in single file etc if it worries you? My friend who is shielding simply goes out first thing in the morning when it is quiet and peaceful. It;s a lovely time of day too and she can have the park to herself.
I've not gone anywhere you need to go in single file - just walking on normal pavements, but when you've got two or three people walking next to each other you can't pass them and maintain a 6 foot gap can you? Certainly here pavements aren't four people plus six feet wide.
understandmenow · 15/06/2020 20:45

The suggestion @Hearhoovesthinkzebras was to walk early morning to avoid the 100s of people walking down your road! Or you could try the evening.

Both of these are quieter and you could get your walk.

Does your DH drive?

Orangeblossom78 · 15/06/2020 20:47

Why are you complaining about people not going in single file then? Confused when you don't go places where they need to.

forgetthehousework · 15/06/2020 20:49

Sorry to hear that Hearhooves, it's a pity neither you or your husband can drive.

TuckMyWin · 15/06/2020 20:50

@Hearhooves

But your argument makes no sense. If my chance of catching it is miniscule, which is what most are arguing, then telling me to shield is disproportionate. Telling anyone to shield is disproportionate if the risk is miniscule. Which leads me to believe that the risk isn't miniscule

Risk isn't the same as likelihood. Risk is a combination of likelihood of something happening, and impact if it does. In this scenario, the likelihood at this point of you, or anyone else who is shielding, catching coronavirus is very low. However, the impact if you do is potentially as bad as it gets. Risk can be high whilst likelihood is low, or low when likelihood is high if the consequences of something happening are unimportant. (The likelihood of something I might buy in Primark falling apart after a few wears is high, but I deem the risk of shopping in Primark low, because it didn't cost very much to start with.)

Therefore, even though likelihood of you getting Covid is low, the risk, because of the potential impact to you, is high enough for the government to continue to advise you to shield. However, that is not the same for people who are not shielding. The likelihood of them getting it AND the probable impact to them are both low. Therefore the risk is low. Therefore the rules are different. There would be nothing gained by them all staying at home, not going to the shops, or out for a walk. You still wouldn't be able to, but there would also be no NHS to care for us in the unlikely event that we got it, because the economy would have tanked and we wouldn't be able to pay for it. And we wouldn't be able to pay those on furlough or shielding , or provide benefits to those who had lost their jobs, or who cannot work due to ill health. And so on. I truly sympathise with your situation. But you would gain nothing by prolonging lockdown for everyone except worsening the consequences of this for you and all of us.

DisobedientHamster · 15/06/2020 20:54

Now when the pubs reopen; travel restrictions are lifted; and all the cancelled gigs I had booked have new dates, then I'll be a very happy bunny. But the privilege of being able to buy some leggings in person instead of online isn't really doing it for me tbh.

See, I would never in my life feel compelled to pay good money for a gig/concert and find pubs a rip off, but it doesn't take a big stretch of the imagination to understand why some people will queue up overnight/campout etc for tickets to gigs or spunk money on over-priced alcohol without the need to sneer at them for doing so Hmm.

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