Lockdown is ending and we are off to the shops!!!!!! :)))))))))

[pigeon999]

Yes we can book hair appointments, nail appointments and banish the roots in a matter of weeks. We can shop today!! We are counting down the days to hotels, restaurants and bars opening. We are breaking out.

We have turned a corner in England people!!

The lockdown is ending at long last - so what are you doing today?

@Willow2017TH then don't specifically tag someone you're 'not having a go at'.

Everyone is free to do what they want. This disease won't suddenly disappear because 'The Government' has said it's OK to open shops again. We need a bit of personal responsibility too.

Same old, same old. Normal still feels a long way off and I can’t bring myself to go shopping with all the measures in place.

Where have I said that? I haven't said it at all. I've said they've only just allowed us one walk a day, I've been out twice but it's impossible to maintain social distancing so now I'm staying in again. But, no, just keep making things up*

Here is where you said it @Hearhoovesthinkzebras
*
Unless you all cause a second peak before the rest of us even get a chance to go for a walk eh? Still, not to worry as long as you had a lovely day. Perhaps ask your friend what she thinks about it.

@ThatLibraryMiss

Hooves, did you follow the link to the out-of-date data and find out what the risk is in your area? Multiply it by a sufficiently large number to satisfy your sense of doom for the number of deaths shooting up since then and you can arrive at a worse-case scenario. I came up with one chance in 19,157 for the worst borough in London.

NB: I see no case whatsoever for thinking that the number of cases actually is going up, but I know you want to think it will.

I'm pretty sure that you won't be content until either everyone else is as confined and miserable as you are or you consider there to be no risk at all. But nothing will ever be risk-free. Walking down the road carries a risk, from a random lightning strike, a meteor, an out-of-control car, a drive-by shooting, a loose scaffolding plank plummeting to the ground, a toilet seat falling out of a plane... And with that, Madam, I'll leave you to this link and your dementing.

Why would I be using out of date information to calculate some mythical risk? I'm listening to government scientists and my own doctors who have more reliable data, an oversight of the true picture and facts about my specific condition. That you can't see a conflict between what you are choosing to believe and what the government are telling the shielded baffles me. If what you are saying is true, then there is no reason why government would want us to shield. Something doesn't add up, but clearly you don't want to consider that.

Just as many people are adamant that a vaccine absolutely, definitely will be available by autumn because that's what they heard.

understandmenow

Yes, in the context of what I've said throughout this thread -we can go for a walk if we can maintain social distancing, but it's now so busy and many people are ignoring it that social distancing is next to.impossible. So walking safely, in built up areas isn't possible.

Once again, Hear Hooves, NOBODY is saying you shouldn't stay inside if you have been advised to do so.

What people are objecting to is you pissing all over the chips of people who aren't restricted in the same way and who have decided to go shopping. It's NONE of your business, yet you have a mission to make everyone else as bitter and unhappy as you clearly are.

Stop it - it's mean and totally uncalled for.

That you can't see a conflict between what you are choosing to believe and what the government are telling the shielded baffles me. If what you are saying is true, then there is no reason why government would want us to shield.

You are shielding because of your specific health status. There is a miniscule chance you will catch it but if you do it will potentilly be much worse for you than for most of us.

Which part of that is so hard to understand? Its your health problem thats causing the need for sheilding not the current risk of catching it by walking past someone in the street.

But hey dont put the facts of your individual circumstances before a good ol conspitacy theory eh?

I'm listening to government scientists and my own doctors who have more reliable data, an oversight of the true picture and facts about my specific condition.
If they and you are so clued up on the facts and data regarding your condition v covid wtf are you on here asking repeatedly for scientific evidence about your risk for?

Hearhooves has been wanging on exactly like this since March
Every
Bloody
Thread

So you want non shielded people to not walk @Hearhoovesthinkzebras, just what do you actually want to happen.

As I said previously you were on my positive thread on 25th May saying that Somerset was about to implode, didn't actually happen did it, I think new cases have significantly declined since then, does that not cheer you up?

DH bought some flowers (for me), some books and a wine aerator
He only went to get a crown checked at the dentist.

Anybody who went shopping today. We're the queues and the rules and restrictions in place in the shops as bad as they've been made out to be?

WFH today so didn't get the chance to go out. Just wondered how the experience really was.

HearHooves, I mean this sincerely and as kindly as possible. I've seen your posts on various threads but didn't realise til this one that you're shielding on your own, and honestly, I'm not surprised it's driving you round the bend. I also live alone, and even though I'm usually quite happy in my own company, the early part of lockdown was absolute hell. No-one knew how long this was going to last, and all the smug posts from people spending more time with their families, 'loving the slower pace of life', and proclaiming that we weren't allowed to complain about anything unless we were literally dying gave me the ABSOLUTE RAGE like nothing I've felt before. At times I was sincerely wishing for people to lose their jobs, homes and relationships as a result of the lockdown they were celebrating so much, so they would have cause to regret being so fucking sanctimonious about it. It's not who I am at all.

People don't understand just how much enforced total isolation fucks you up mentally unless they've experienced it for themselves - and that was after a month, with the ability to go outside, and (sort of) knowing there was going to be an end date at some point. Your situation is so much worse, with no end in sight and the potential for serious illness or death rather than simply being fined for going against the rules. In your position I don't know how or whether I would cope and, while I don't agree, I completely understand why you feel the need to lash out at people whose lives are starting to go back to normal.

I think perhaps it would do you some good to step away from MN for a bit. You are on here a lot, and unfortunately as a forum it does have a tendency to bring out the smug twattery in people (not on this thread but in general). I know it's easier said than done when forums are currently your most accessible form of social contact, but as restrictions are being lifted people will inevitably post about things they're doing that you currently can't, as is their right. You know that being angry with them won't change anything, and maybe you need to consider whether it's actually helping you. At the very least it might be a good idea to avoid threads that are obviously about people being happy that they're able to do more things. Even posting more about neutral topics would probably be better for you than getting into constant arguments about other people doing the things they're allowed to.

(Sorry for derailing OP, although to be fair I think that was done pretty effectively a while ago!)

Willow2017

But your argument makes no sense. If my chance of catching it is miniscule, which is what most are arguing, then telling me to shield is disproportionate. Telling anyone to shield is disproportionate if the risk is miniscule. Which leads me to believe that the risk isn't miniscule.

SockYarn

And what you're ignoring is that it does affect me if everyone flooding out to queue at multiple shops, ignoring social distancing, pushes up the infection rates again because that prolongs my isolation even further. None of you know yet how infection rates will be affected by the lifting of lockdown. It might have no effect or it might cause a sudden rise. Then what? People are screaming bloody murder because schools aren't opening. I bet they'll be chuffed to bits if it turns out that people flocking to sports direct and Primark caused a second peak that stops summer childcare from happening.

@Hobnobswantshernameback

Hearhooves has been wanging on exactly like this since March Every Bloody Thread

Unfortunately this is entirely true.

I agree with Psychomath.

It is not all about YOU, Hear Hooves. You need to step away from the forum, or post on other topics as it's clearly clearly doing you no good at all.

It is not all about YOU, Hear Hooves. You need to step away from the forum, or post on other topics as it's clearly clearly doing you no good at all

Now that's not going to happen!

So you want non shielded people to not walk

Why would it be so unthinkable that councils might make some arrangements for people who are shielding to be able to exercise once a day?

Or why is it so unthinkable that parents and children would choose not to cycle, in a group, on the pavement and cycle past people walking in front of them, or that groups of mums pushing prams, might choose to walk in single file when approaching another person, or people walking in couples walk in single file when going past someone else? Why are any of those so offensive to you? Why, when you can all go and do so much now would it be so utterly unthinkable to consider other people who can't do anything else and who depend on social distancing?

Clearly I'm asking for too much though right? Even though social distancing is actually still meant to be in place.

I cant WAIT to go shopping! So excited. Am working until Thursday and come Friday I will be out there, am going shopping and nothing will stop me.

Its like finally, the pressure cooker is releasing slowly and it feels hugely cathartic and wonderful. Cant wait to get back to normal.

Ok @FuzzyPuffling what luxury item do you want, please choose a shop with a decent queue or it's not worth my effort. I'll also risk life and limb sitting in my car for two hours, completely alone, not within 2 meters of anyone to queue at a McDonald's, that action alone will cause a spike, I mean people sitting in their cars alone! Dangerous.

Quite fancy some smoked salmon and a shed load of decent chocolate please. Oh and cheese. Nice cheese. No McDonald's please...it'd be cold by the time you get here. Thanks!
PS And a flash ballgown please, I fear my standards may have been slipping a bit recently.

Hooves there is nice "thread for those that are shielding" in Chat which you might find helpful, or would at least give you the opportunity to talk to people who really do get how very difficult shielding is.

'I cannot believe someone has actually posted 'comforting. My DH who's father died yesterday' I mean come on, the OP was clearly upbeat and this thread is full of fucking fun sponges.'

I've just come back to this thread. Yeah, people do tend to be 'fun sponges' less than 24 hours after a sudden bereavement. Fuck me. Hope you enjoyed getting a cheap laugh from that. What a nasty piece of work you are.

Or why is it so unthinkable that parents and children would choose not to cycle, in a group, on the pavement and cycle past people walking in front of them, or that groups of mums pushing prams, might choose to walk in single file when approaching another person, or people walking in couples walk in single file when going past someone else? Why are any of those so offensive to you? Why, when you can all go and do so much now would it be so utterly unthinkable to consider other people who can't do anything else and who depend on social distancing?

Sorry that I'm the main is happening here, not sure why you haven't experienced it?

Although in fairness you've seemed to have found everyone to be wrong, the way they walk, cycle, shop just everything that everyone is doing. And yet the rate continues to fall, amazing really.

Well, I had a lovely trip with DD, the shops were deserted, we got several things that were bargains at half price and we observed all the rules. We felt normal again.

I'm on it @FuzzyPuffling!

HearHooves, I mean this sincerely and as kindly as possible. I've seen your posts on various threads but didn't realise til this one that you're shielding on your own, and honestly, I'm not surprised it's driving you round the bend.
No she isnt! Last time she posted on these types of threads she had a husband!