Do you wear a face covering at the supermarket?

[FluffyKittensinabasket]

I don’t normally but I have a coldsore so think I’ll wear one tomorrow, hopefully I won’t get any passive aggressive comments from other shoppers that have been reported here.

I'm surprised it's an issue anywhere. From what I see, most people aren't wearing them but enough are for it not to be an uncommon sight, and everyone knows the reason for it, so...why would anyone have a problem with it?

I've worn one for shopping for a couple of weeks now and never had any issue. Sorry to hear that people have.

@thistimeofyear

“The govt wanted me banged up for 3 months” what?! You were advised to for your own safety. Would you rather they said - we’re not going to advise anyone to be careful - crack on as normal and catch the virus?

I would have preferred this, by far. At least we could have taken our own, adult, decisions without losing our jobs, depriving our children of their education, friends, and lives, chucking a hand grenade into the economy, etc, etc, etc.

I know what is best for my own safety. I don't need anyone else to decide this for me. As it happens, I have 'cracked on' and have done all sorts of things that are against The Rules. Guess what? Neither I nor anyone else whom I have seen regularly throughout lockdown has contracted Covid.

@PhilCornwall1 Do you think the Boden masks come in petite sizes too?

@thistimeofyear

If a mask protected you from ever catching the virus most people would wear one but because it doesn’t benefit them - a lot of people will give all sorts of excuses for not wearing one.

I don't agree with this, either. I am simply not worried about either catching or transmitting this virus any more than I am worried about catching or transmitting anything else. I see masks as another encroachment on my civil liberties - but I also don't think they benefit anyone else or me. I have not had a habit of breathing on strangers in supermarkets in the past, and am not going to start doing it now.

I have always been pretty hygienic, and will continue to be so. That's the end of it.

Yes I do. I have had Covid and am supposed to be better, but the cough lingers and it freaks people out, so I wear a mask to save the death stares.

english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/05/db735915ca45-fears-grow-over-heat-exhaustion-caused-by-wearing-masks-in-summer.html

I know what is best for my own safety. I don't need anyone else to decide this for me. As it happens, I have 'cracked on' and have done all sorts of things that are against The Rules. Guess what? Neither I nor anyone else whom I have seen regularly throughout lockdown has contracted Covid.

Well, at least you openly admitted you don't give a shit about others.

No but our go surgery text everyone saying if you have an appointment then you need to wear one. So now i need to buy six just in case we need to go to the GP.

No.

I went food shopping yesterday and no-one in the shop or queue was wearing a mask. The staff weren’t either, but when I was in there last week, the woman on the till was wearing a visor (which looked most unpleasant to wear).

@FedUpAtHomeTroels

Yes I do. I have had Covid and am supposed to be better, but the cough lingers and it freaks people out, so I wear a mask to save the death stares.

If the cough is lingering, you shouldn't be out as you're contagious! The people giving you death stares are right to be freaked out - you literally have a Covid cough!

I hate wearing a mask, they are uncomfortable and can make me feel dizzy, but do where social distancing may be problematic which includes supermarkets.

Very simply, if you can, it is the right thing to do to protect the vulnerable around you.

Thank you to everyone who also wears them to protect me and others. You are doing your bit and your consideration and selflessness is appreciated.

Visors are more comfortable actually in my view and I am trying to find out if they are "face covering" for London Underground purposes - as the new rule is on the TfL website not in a piece of law is it hard to know.

As it happens, I have 'cracked on' and have done all sorts of things that are against The Rules. Guess what? Neither I nor anyone else whom I have seen regularly throughout lockdown has contracted Covid.

You know that’s because of the lockdown, right? So other people obeying lockdown allowed you to crack on and meet people while still reducing the spread of the virus making it less likely you were exposed.

I think it is in a piece of law. It was added on Saturday. I’m not sure if it says about visors.

Rafals - brilliant thanks. I must have looked just before it was published. here is it www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/592/contents/made

Let us check about visors....

“face covering” means a covering of any type which covers a person’s nose and mouth;

Okay so what about my visor?
I p resume if it covers more than the nose and mouth eg the eyes too like a burkah or my visor or a bike helmet you are okay.

How close does it have to cover the face then I wonder?

3.—(1) No person may, without reasonable excuse, use a public transport service without wearing a face covering.

Lots of exceptions:-

But the requirement in paragraph (1) does not apply— (a)to a child who is under the age of 11; (b)to an employee of the operator of the relevant public transport service acting in the course of their employment; (c)to any other person providing services under arrangements made with the operator of the relevant public transport service who is providing those services; (d)to a constable or police community support officer acting in the course of their duty; (e)to an emergency responder (other than a constable) acting in their capacity as an emergency responder; (f)to a relevant official acting in the course of their employment or their duties; (g)where a person is allocated a cabin, berth or other similar accommodation, at any time when they are in that accommodation— (i)alone, or (ii)only with members of their own household or a linked household; (h)where— (i)a person is permitted, or ordinarily required, to board and to remain in a vehicle when using the public transport service, and (ii)the vehicle is not itself used for the provision of a public transport service, the person remains in that vehicle.

. For the purposes of regulation 3(1), the circumstances in which a person (“P”) has a reasonable excuse include those where—

(a)P cannot put on, wear or remove a face covering— (i)because of any physical or mental illness or impairment, or disability (within the meaning of section 6 of the Equality Act 2010(g)), or (ii)without severe distress;

(b)P is travelling with, or providing assistance to, another person (“B”) and B relies on lip reading to communicate with P;

(c)P removes their face covering to avoid harm or injury, or the risk of harm or injury, to themselves or others;

(d)P is travelling to avoid injury, or to escape a risk of harm, and does not have a face covering with them;

(e)if it is reasonably necessary for P to eat or drink, P removes their face covering to eat or drink;

(f)P has to remove their face covering to take medication;

(g)a relevant person requests that P remove their face covering. "

What a minefield. So who decides how often people should eat and drink - eg if we need most people to be a lot slimmer could we say no one needs to eat on a 3 hour train journey?

Severe distress is interesting. I don't like having one on - I am not sure I fall into severe distress category but it must be really hard to define that and to know how someone is feeling inside . May be we need T shirts with slogans saying - I have asthma so I cannot wear a mask or I have a medical reason I cannot wear a mask.

I wear one for my weekly Tesco trip. I'm in the minority but feel safer if I'm wearing it especially as more and more people are ignoring the 2 metre rule and the one way system.

Yes, I do. I don’t really like it either so I think about it as a kindness towards those around me. If I catch it, there will be a couple of days before I know I have it. A mask will reduce the chances of me spreading it to those around me during that supermarket trip. Same reason why I always stop on the way in and out to use the hand sanitiser and wipe the trolley handle down.

I think on balance the visor does cover nose and mouth.

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Just found the link, but I see you’ve got there.

I don’t know about the visor. From a healthcare point of view you’d need to have a mask under the visor.

That’s not the same as the legal point of view though. So there’s no saying if you’d be allowed on or not.

I’m the same as @PARunnerGirl

I don’t like it but I do it as a kindness to others. The more you wear it the more you get used to it.

When we first had to wear seatbelts in cars, that felt odd too.

Rafals I suppose i you have my visor over your face your sneeze is perhaps caught in the visor but I agree it is a grey area. Does it cover mouth and nose - yes it does but not enclosing them at all sides.

I also have one of these www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06WRNLFZG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?psc=1&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&ie=UTF8 which is a snorkel full face mask with a tube at the side - that covers face and mouth but the tube goes behind you and you breath in and out of (I will not be wearing it on the tube as it is very uncomformable).

I hope we allow mothers who are breastfeeding on trains to make off their mask when they feed the baby as looking into its eyes as it feeds is so important as part of the process or at least it was for me.

@Xenia

Babies don’t have to wear masks. And the face coverings that most mothers wear don’t cover the eyes. They are just paper or cloth across the nose and mouth.