WTAF - Far right protests

[Poppi89]

I have just heard on the radio that far-right protesters will be out tomorrow in response to the BLM protesters. People are being urged not to be out in support of BLM tomorrow due to the aggressive nature of the far-right group and BLM protests are being cancelled because of them.

I am outraged by this. The BLM protesters are asking for people to not be killed due to the colour of their skin. They have rightly or wrongly made a decision to put themselves at risk of COVID-19 to help spread this message - a lot of people have called them idiots etc for doing this.

The far-right protests are now also protesting in large groups (but not in response to a murder) and are 'known' for being aggressive. How is this acceptable?

I would like to hear from anyone who is planning to join/agree with these far-right protests and their reasons why?

[quote Mittens030869]@GetOffYourHighHorse

And BBC News haven't mentioned Nazi salutes at all. It could be a garbled rumour that gets accepted as true when it isn't. The man urinating was discovered so I can't help thinking there would be footage of any Nazi salutes of there were any.[/quote]
Exactly, everyone just seems to believe it because someone said it on twitter, but it just seems odd that there hasn't been any posted pictures of it at all. If anyone can prove me wrong then fine.

Not saying there weren't any far right trouble causers there, as there were certainly far left trouble makers. The msm just seem intent on inflaming the situation with very biased reporting as usual.

Compare that with Cressida Dick reporting the figures of police officers injured on 7th June as 14 (not the 40 you claim) "This led to 14 officers being injured, in addition to 13 hurt in earlier protests this week" Even if we count the injuries in earlier protests, we're nowhere near 40 ...

Just to point out that over 60 police officers were hurt in the 'peaceful' BLM protests;

"Writing in the Evening Standard on Monday [8th June] Dame Cressida condemned the attacks, as she revealed 49 officers were injured over the weekend, including a mounted officer seen to fall from her horse on Saturday, adding to 13 hurt last week."

news.sky.com/story/police-call-for-apology-from-bosses-after-49-officers-injured-during-anti-racism-protests-12002875
www.itv.com/news/london/2020-06-08/frontline-officers-call-for-apology-after-49-injured-in-anti-racism-protests/

I think they're certainly trying to paint them as black as possible certainly. It's like that rumour that kept being repeated on here that Cummings' parents had a birthday party on 5th April where Abba were playing. But by contrast it was the day his uncle had died of COVID-19. No one had the courage to admit they got that wrong.

I'm not defending Cummings and I'm not defending the far right protesters, btw, not at all. I just think it's important to stick to known facts borne out by actual coverage.

So does that mean that actually Cummings went up to see his uncle? Not the story he told about childcare, which contradicted the story his wife wrote in the Spectator about him lying down unable to do anything?

I think the Abba story is known to be fiction, but there are still questions around Cummings behaviour. Behaviour which has sent a message that there is one rule for the elite and one for the rest of us. Which will work to their advantage because they can then blame the public for breaking the lockdown rules if there is a second wave. Nothing to do with us guv. Except Johnson was voted in to lead a Government, not come up with marketing slogans.

I don't dispute that, I have no time for Cummings and he should have been sacked. I was just using that as an example of people quoting rumours as fact. I had sympathy for Cummings's mother rather than him about that, actually, as it was her brother who had died.

No excuse for Cummings, but getting facts wrong does no good.

But Clavinova has to find chunks to cut and paste to attempt to discredit the BLM movement, because Saturday's behaviour by the right wing was a total disgrace.

Compare pulling down a metal statue erected nearly two centuries later, and the Government getting their knickers in a twist about it, to a man pissing against a memorial to a PC who was murdered by a right wing fanatic only 3 years ago.

I thought the attacker at London Bridge was an Islamist terrorist? It doesn't make that man's behaviour any less disgusting, though.

His excuse made no sense, that he was too drunk to know what he was doing. He chose to urinate on that particular memorial after all.

@Mittens030869

I thought the attacker at London Bridge was an Islamist terrorist? It doesn't make that man's behaviour any less disgusting, though.

Keith Palmer didn’t die at London Bridge. He was killed outside the Houses of Parliament by an extreme right wing demonstrator.

Sorry I’m wrong. Mashood was a convert to Islam with a long criminal history prior to his conversion.

Okay, thank you for explaining that. Yes I do remember that event. Disgusting specimen, I was ashamed to be British this weekend.

@Alsohuman Okay, so that was it. But in reality the motive for the original murder changes nothing about the shameful behaviour of that man this weekend.

Keith Palmer didn’t die at London Bridge. He was killed outside the Houses of Parliament by an extreme right wing demonstrator.

No. He was killed by an Islamic terrorist.

I just said that. 🙄

everyone just seems to believe it because someone said it on twitter

Nothing new there ... it's a curse of the internet age that so much rubbish posted online gets treated as "fact" even if there's nothing to prove it at all

He chose to urinate on that particular memorial after all

And rightly got 14 days custody for it

Yes I was really pleased about that, what an arsehole. I couldn't believe his excuse.

'Compare pulling down a metal statue erected nearly two centuries later, and the Government getting their knickers in a twist about it, to a man pissing against a memorial to a PC who was murdered by a right wing fanatic only 3 years ago.'

I think people are 'getting their knickers in a twist' about the precedent it has set and how it's a free for all on all monuments. A labour council had been in charge in Bristol for years why on earth hadn't they done something about it sooner?

Also, I don't know anyone who doesn't condemn the stupid man urinating against a plaque, it's just how it's all very one sided. Send all monument defacers to prison or none, you can't pick and choose depending on which day they protested.

Oh conservatives suddenly want to think about those in poverty do they?

@Mittens030869

His excuse made no sense, that he was too drunk to know what he was doing. He chose to urinate on that particular memorial after all.

No he didn't I don't know if you have a DH or DS but if you do you would know that their aim isn't always how we would wish it to be, but even my DH whose aim is pretty bad would have least tried to hit it if he wanted to urinate on it. The guy was an idiot and there was no excuse for public urination but it was very clear he wasn't aiming for it but next to it in fact from the pictures I have seen it looks like he was peeing through the black metal 'railings' next to it

Dont pretend you give a monkeys about the media enflaming things, Highhorse, you're looking to excuse these scumbags, as always. Plenty of footage of the nazi salutes. A simple google search away

I have a DH, BILs and DNephews. I can't imagine any of them doing something like that. Find somewhere out of sight if you're that desperate to do a wee.

Yep Peregrina, always the same posters.

presumably the police will be arresting all the people that urinate everywhere at Notting Hill carnival next year as well now

Islamic terrorists are still right wing nutcases.