WTAF - Far right protests

[Poppi89]

I have just heard on the radio that far-right protesters will be out tomorrow in response to the BLM protesters. People are being urged not to be out in support of BLM tomorrow due to the aggressive nature of the far-right group and BLM protests are being cancelled because of them.

I am outraged by this. The BLM protesters are asking for people to not be killed due to the colour of their skin. They have rightly or wrongly made a decision to put themselves at risk of COVID-19 to help spread this message - a lot of people have called them idiots etc for doing this.

The far-right protests are now also protesting in large groups (but not in response to a murder) and are 'known' for being aggressive. How is this acceptable?

I would like to hear from anyone who is planning to join/agree with these far-right protests and their reasons why?

STOP SWALLOWING MSM BS LABELS sorry to shout, but the group of war vets standing in front of the boarded cenotaph are NOT far right! Far right is a label-goading attempt by the media to make all defense of riots, vandalism and looting of people's homes and businesses appear dysfunctional. Defending your rights and upholding the law does not make anyone far right alone.

*defence

@Glowcat

If you find yourself standing with Tommy Robinson and his ilk then I think you probably didn’t have to take too many steps to the right to join them.

Sorry but what the left are doing at the moment is indefensible and dangerous.

I will be interested to see if the same people who objected to the BLM demos solely because of CV19 "not coz I'm racist " will be equally worried about the risk this time yes I object to mass anything whilst children are still kept off school and businesses can’t trade!

35 police officers hae been attacked by blm protesters but a group of vets trying to defend the cenotaph and the police might I add (blm want police abolished/dismantled) are far right?! The mind once again boggles. Stop watching the bs lie-by-omission news!

It will be interesting to see the difference in policing this weekend vs last weekend if they do turn up, I can probably guess who will feel the swifter hand of the law.

I wonder if Anarchy Uk have infiltrated the BLM protests - they usually seize any opportunity to smash and vandalize to promote their "cause"

If you find yourself standing with Tommy Robinson and his ilk then I think you probably didn’t have to take too many steps to the right to join them.

Indeed. As for the narrative that people on the left ‘hate this country’, it makes me very angry indeed. How dare the far right hijack patriotism, the flag, the Cenotaph, people like Lee Rigby who died for this country, and roll them up in their nasty, jingoistic, racist and violent narrative. How dare they talk about ‘native British’ when they mean white people. It’s disgusting, and anyone who thinks like this ought to be thoroughly ashamed.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I will be interested to see if the same people who objected to the BLM demos solely because of CV19 "not coz I'm racist " will be equally worried about the risk this time yes I object to mass anything whilst children are still kept off school and businesses can’t trade!

Agree, people shouldn't be out in groups like this, but the threat of veterans turning up to defend memorials and monuments like the Centoaph and Churchill statues has already seen the protests tomorrow called off. That potentially saves more mass gatherings and trouble.

Problem is if the police won't enforce law and order then you get vigilantes (whether you want to call them far right/veterans/patriots) who will do the job for them to prevent anarchy which is where we're heading at the moment with the purges and the vandalism.

I will just pop this here

When it comes to people like Tommy Robinson I prefer the term ‘convicted criminal’.

@Sandybval there are vids on twitter of police armed ready for tomorrow - painting a backwards picture already! Blm have pulled out. I'll wait to see any footage and continue not to watch the news or read Guardian headlines that are all one way bs.

I support right-wing groups’ right to protest peacefully with social distancing. I also support BLM groups’ right to protest peacefully with social distancing.

It’s a somewhat old-fashioned concept called ‘a free country’.

@Glowcat

The cenotaph is protected The statue of Churchill is protected

NOW they are, and they are not being protected from the 'far right' they are being protected from people who decided to high jack a peaceful and much needed protest with wanton criminal destruction which they fully intended to repeat this weekend, the fact that this deliberate vandalism then caught the attention of people who wanted to defend these statues and monuments some of whom will be decent people who want to show their feelings and yes SOME of whom will have racist intent. Looking on facebook before the police moved people trying to protect Churchills statue and then let someone else vandalise it once they had left, there were very few posts urging people to disrupt or stop the BLM protest, after that serious error of judgement by the Police there was lot of anger with people starting to say they wanted to fight back. Hopefully the covering up of these monuments will stop any violent actions on BOTH sides

Who is branding them far right?
Afaik they’re not protesting about anything.
They were going to protect the monuments and cenotaph from being vandalised and are largely from the Veteran community.

Do you have any problem with men and women who have served their Queen and country protecting something which is important to them OP?
BLM supporters - no connotations.
Veterans protecting monuments- far right.

See what they do with words OP?

Far right as in members of far right organisations like this.

www.ft.com/content/2e365b6c-572c-11ea-a528-dd0f971febbc

"Today 17:29BMW6

I wonder if Anarchy Uk have infiltrated the BLM protests - they usually seize any opportunity to smash and vandalize to promote their "cause""

BMW6 If you can, and you haven't already, I'd highly reccomend watching the film "The First Purge" on Netflix.

It's an eye opener!!

It was going to happen. Whenever you have progress you have backlash.

Progress is not destroying statues of imperfect people like Churchill who fought against the Nazis and whose existence means that people have the right to protest and say things you and I don't like.

I think society actually seems to be going in the opposite direction to progess, to a fascist-like Orwellian state where everything is banned, people are attacked for wrong-think, books are burned and history is memory-holed.

@AgeLikeWine

I support right-wing groups’ right to protest peacefully with social distancing. I also support BLM groups’ right to protest peacefully with social distancing.

It’s a somewhat old-fashioned concept called ‘a free country’.

Most fair minded people would agree. BLM protests therefore lost a lot of public support last weekend by refusing to social distance during a pandemic and by failing to protest peacefully, whether or not they were infiltrated with professional agitators and criminals. The two things combined have proved extremely counter productive with public opinion.

As I said i had some people in real life in mind, who I know damn well will this time round defend a person's right to protest. Didn't hear that last weekend

thegcatsmother said:

I think that anyone who isn't in exact sympathy with BLM protests is being termed far right. If a Chelsea Pensioner turned out to protect the Cenotaph, would you call them far right?

Spot on. There was enough violence last weekend.

NF. BNP. EDL.

Don't like to see Black and Asian people getting a bit of positivity.

Boots on. Knuckle dusters out. Out for a bit of argy bargy. Nowts' changed.

@PurpleHoodie

NF. BNP. EDL.

Don't like to see Black and Asian people getting a bit of positivity.

Boots on. Knuckle dusters out. Out for a bit of argy bargy. Nowts' changed.

There was nothing positive about the scenes in London on Saturday.

I don't know why the far right are bothering to protest, what could they possibly want that they haven't already got?

We've even got a unashamedly racist PM who calls black people picaninis and muslims bank robbers, going for a no deal Brexit. First thing BJ did as mayor of London was cancel black history month. We had 'go home immigrant' vans driving round, I suppose they could want those brought back. The statues have been boarded up and protected, they don't need to be there as some sort of security guard. Seriously, what else could they possibly want?

Don’t see the issue with people wanting to protect our statues and monuments.

I do have issue with mindless vandalism and police being attacked for just daring to exist doing their jobs.

I don’t have issue with peaceful protest or socially distanced protest as should be currently.

Someone will be along soon to say that being a criminal is ok because BLM but I’m sure being a criminal never has a good enough reason for attacking people just standing doing a job.