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Are women allowed to be offended by Drag/ women face now then?

427 replies

Chosennone · 12/06/2020 11:11

Things are changing. Strange times. Midst Pandemic. Horrific events in the USA. people are 'waking' up to oppression and inappropriateness within comedy.
If it is no longer seen as acceptable to wear any kind of black costume, seen in LB, LOG, Ant & Dec, surely it is time that a sensible debate could be had on Drag. Is it acceptable? Is it not a mockery of female features for comedy in the same way original blackface was?
If not, why not?

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ChewChewIsMySpiritAnimal · 12/06/2020 11:13

Yeah it's offensive. But it's more fashionable to be for it than against it.

ItsInTheShed · 12/06/2020 11:13

Oooh interesting point!!

I think I agree, it IS a mockery of women

WrongKindOfFace · 12/06/2020 11:14

No, women are not allowed to offended by anything.

StealthPolarBear · 12/06/2020 11:15

No. Because t will upset the men

DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 12/06/2020 11:16

Lol no. Women are not allowed to be upset or offended.

Mumoblue · 12/06/2020 11:16

I know a lot of women who love drag and I really really don't get it.

Personally I'm not offended by it, but I don't get why people like it, either.

FatalSecrets · 12/06/2020 11:17

Surely you know by now women aren't allowed to be offended by anything...

PheasantPlucker1 · 12/06/2020 11:17

I find it very offensive.

But the menz enjoy it and it doesnt offend them, so it doesnt count.

Carrotynose · 12/06/2020 11:19

I see them as a gross and terrifying caricature along the lines of clowns. I don't like it.

Pics · 12/06/2020 11:19

Now that's not true WrongKindofFace. We have to be offended by people who don't think the right way, or who people who are not tolerant of all our identity and spaces being invaded. We can be very offended by women the existence of science too.

GinasWig · 12/06/2020 11:21

Drags are grotesque and disgusting.

SarahTancredi · 12/06/2020 11:21

Watch it become "their idea" and then we can all become offended then Hmm

HMSSophie · 12/06/2020 11:21

No because some men find it fun or funny or erotic, or find it humiliating to women which they enjoy. So it's gonna be staying on our screens.

If the woke world was going to take down the statues of misogynists or remove from tv every programme that featured sexism, we'd have fuck all left. And men can't do without their fun. So don't hold your breathe.

God this world sickens me.

CherryBlossomPink · 12/06/2020 11:21

Totally agree - the outcry that David Walliams is portraying a black character when he is not black, but nobody notices he’s also portraying a woman (sorry, person who menstruates ......). Really object to censorship anyway, but if they are going to have it at least be consistent.

Chosennone · 12/06/2020 11:22

Usually far more offensive than anything I've seen on the aforementioned TV programmes! Oftern overtly sexual, offensive regarding menstruation/vaginas. There is one drag queen called Anna Bortion for Gods sake!

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ShowOfHands · 12/06/2020 11:23

People used to lap up vile racist sitcoms in the 70s and over time, we've shifted societal attitude in the right direction.

In exact opposition to this progression, we have continued to fetishise womanhood and we now have to lap up drag as comedy/entertainment or be described as bigoted.

HMSSophie · 12/06/2020 11:23

Are we going to get rid of religious buildings of all stripes, as every last fucking one of them is sexist? No. Because sexism does not count in the way racism does. Because it's not about upset men.

(I'm having a bad day)

Porcupineinwaiting · 12/06/2020 11:23

Of course they can be offended - quietly and in the privacy of their own homes. They shouldn't voice their opinions in public though, otherwise some men's people's feeling might be hurt.

Chicchicchicchiclana · 12/06/2020 11:24

Completely agree although am uncomfortable about the whataboutery element of this just at the present time.

Those of us who have always objected to drag should have galvanised ourselves to protest years ago - although we all know where that would have got us. I was cold shouldered and sent to Coventry for raising concerns about male teachers in highly sexualised drag (balloons down jumpers for breasts) sending up women in the most derogatory way at my children's primary school. Some very blinkered parents disagreed with me and didn't talk to me ever again. Fools.

IsMiseMorag · 12/06/2020 11:24

I'm looking forward to the new series of Rupaul's Drag Race where men dress up as teachers, dental nurses, hydrotherapists, council tax officers and checkout staff, then bitch hilariously about the cost of childcare and whether the last series of Killing Eve was any good.

Flippetydip · 12/06/2020 11:25

YADNBU. I find it horrifying.

This particularly:
dragqueenstorytime.com/

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 12/06/2020 11:25

Could not agree with you more, CherryBlossomPink, but lady dick is apparently something we now have to not only tolerate, but welcome and encourage

slipperywhensparticus · 12/06/2020 11:25

We are allowed to tut in the privacy of our own homes as long as no one hears us

Tonz · 12/06/2020 11:26

Anna Bortion. Fuck sake. That's fucking low. Is it meant to be funny? It's not it's really not

MrsKCastle · 12/06/2020 11:26

Nah, don't be silly. Women aren't people in their own right. They don't get to be offended. They have to wait and be told what is offensive by the men.