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To wonder what happens in society now that will be frowned upon by our descendants

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Dylaninthemovies1 · 11/06/2020 12:36

There is lots of things our ancestors did in the past that we quite rightly think are morally reprehensible.

I’m wondering how history will judge us! What things will our descendants judge us for?

I’m thinking:
Destroying the environment
People in 3rd world country making our clothes for peanuts

OP posts:
NailsNeedDoing · 11/06/2020 17:03

Brexit
Eating so much meat

fadedout · 11/06/2020 17:04

Eroding women's rights.

WhoWants2Know · 11/06/2020 17:07

I think we are thinking too short term. Gay rights may not have existed 100 years ago, but if you look much further back, gay relationships were common in some periods.

Civilisation doesn't progress in a straight line towards utopia. It gets better and worse in cycles.

People are a product of their upbringing and circumstances and they behave accordingly. There's not a lot of point in judging our ancestors for their behaviour because we can't guarantee that we would behave differently in their position. I'm sure we'd love to think so, but when you look at what happened to the Jewish population in Europe during WWII, it's clear that people don't always do the right thing.

monkeyonthetable · 11/06/2020 17:08

The appalling waste. So much excess packaging. So much food going to waste in Western countries.

I'd like to think the appalling gulf between the rich and the poor, black and white, third and first worlds would be frowned on but I doubt it. There have always been workers in squalid conditions trying to survive while the rich get richer. In all societies. So I doubt this will be frowned on or dealt with any more than it is today. When I was a child I used to think it was so shocking that Victorians sent the poor to prison for stealing a loaf of bread and I was so glad that people these days recognised and took circumstances into account. But then during lockdown - a period of immense financial hardship - George Floyd gets murdered for trying to pass off a dodgy $20 bill.

vulvachips · 11/06/2020 17:17

I'm not against that idea @annamaria14 but still think some won't be happy.

vulvachips · 11/06/2020 17:18

There's not a lot of point in judging our ancestors for their behaviour because we can't guarantee that we would behave differently in their position. I'm sure we'd love to think so, but when you look at what happened to the Jewish population in Europe during WWII, it's clear that people don't always do the right thing.

Exactly

Mohiqo · 11/06/2020 17:21

Transing our children.

Pinkblueberry · 11/06/2020 17:26

The way we treat animals will probably be a big one - I don’t think meat and dairy will go out the window but mass farming and eating cheap meat will be frowned upon.

I think currently as a society are we quite sensitive and easily offended - I think our descendants will laugh at us for it.

Annamaria14 · 11/06/2020 17:37

I think that they will think that a lot of things we do are completely crazy.

Why do we have:
Governments
Royal families
Mortgages - a slave system to keep us in one place
Schools - a slave system to keep children in place
Work - a slave system to keep adults in one place

And that we keep letting all these things being done to enslave us. That we never think for ourselves.

Money - which is a completely made up thing

Porn

WhoWouldHaveThoughtThat · 11/06/2020 18:41

@Annamaria14 Confused

Andante57 · 11/06/2020 18:53

AnnaMaria why don't you start a commune in which the inhabitants live by the principles which you desire.

MarmiteyCrumpets · 11/06/2020 18:57

The abominable way we treat animals, especially in factory farms.

How we've fucked the environment through greed, apathy, and laziness - fucked the climate for them, fucked the weather patterns, trashed the oceans, destroyed the rainforests and allowed countless species to become extinct.

Future generations will not be kind.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 11/06/2020 18:57

Censorship of free speech!

Annamaria14 · 11/06/2020 19:10

@Andante57 I personally have a remote job, and I do not live in one country. I rent a flat on air b and b for one month in one country, then I move country the next month.
Last year I was in Poland, Bulgaria, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Turkey, Nepal, Thailand and the USA.

After lockdown , I will be spending three years working online and living in all of the different countries in Central and South America.

When you rent an air b and b flat - you do not pay any bills.

The old way of Living your whole life in one small box, in one country, paying a mortgage your whole life is a ridiculous way to live. It is not natural

Annamaria14 · 11/06/2020 19:11

You pay rent, but you do not pay electricity or council tax

Travelling is cheaper than living in the UK

choli · 11/06/2020 19:20

Recreational shopping.

WellTidy · 11/06/2020 19:32

High heels

Caged hens’ eggs being legally bought and sold

Homelessness

Mysterian · 11/06/2020 19:39

Pineapple on pizza.

Eating meat.

Vernon Kaye.

Postman Pat going all computer generated animation.

Ignoring human right abuses.

Fireman Sam going all computer generated animation.

Pollution and stuff.

Alsohuman · 11/06/2020 20:07

Agree with the PP who said makeup. I'm surprised to see that suggested here (or anywhere). As a bright eyed feminist in the mid-90s I thought makeup would be obsolete by now

As a feminist in the 70s it never occurred to me that women would ever not wear make up. We’ve done it for millennia. Women liberated from concentration camps fell on lipstick. My face without make up frightens me, let alone the horses. How do bare faces represent progress?

thecatneuterer · 11/06/2020 20:09

I agree with high heels.

JustaScratch · 11/06/2020 20:10

Eating meat

Pinkblueberry · 11/06/2020 20:15

Make up and porn, at least in picture form, have been around for thousands of years - I think it’s a human staple. Maybe mainstream make-up for men will take off again at some point.

Emmapeeler1 · 11/06/2020 20:17

There's not a lot of point in judging our ancestors for their behaviour because we can't guarantee that we would behave differently in their position. I'm sure we'd love to think so, but when you look at what happened to the Jewish population in Europe during WWII, it's clear that people don't always do the right thing

This.

Inspiralcarpetry · 11/06/2020 20:17

I'd like to think homelessness and hunger, but sadly that has been a factor since time began.
Also, keeping large hyper intelligent ocean predators in captivity in the equivalent of a large bathtub and us wondering why it makes them psychotic and violent at times.

Wearywithteens · 11/06/2020 20:20

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