That Eddie Redmayne is a self serving privileged prick?

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Where was he when he took the part in the Danish Girl that could have gone to a trans woman and elevated an actor who otherwise has no options open to them? AIBU in thinking Eddie Redmayne is jumping on a misogynistic bandwagon when he doesn’t actually give a shit about trans people or their rights?

FWIW I do believe there’s a world where women’s rights and trans rights can live side by side and support each other but it speaks volumes that the cis-rich-White-Male-heterosexual parade comes out and tries to antagonise a situation between two social groups that their particular social
Group has oppressed and abused and dehumanised and humiliated for thousands of years? Daniel Radcliffe is no better - his response to the original JKR tweet even only refers to transwomen and doesn’t even mention transmen!!!

They say they all need to just listen and be educated when it comes to racism but when it comes to feminism they tell women to sit down and shut up while they mansplain and admonish, fuck them

Please say what abuse you have experienced then. Then we can compare whether it's as bad as being threatened with rape by baseball bat.

You certainly insinuated it difficult. So where is this threatening behaviour towards men then? Online? IRL? (You did say you experienced it in real life)

I have never threatened anyone with violence. I have never abused anyone.i have never sought to intimidate or harass anyone, neither has anyone I'm associated with.

Me neither.

It doesn't mean that it doesn't happen just because it doesnt happen in your particular circle though.

Not in my circle - just go and look on twitter - read the tweets and responses to and from a person 'from each side' - the difference is night and day. To TRAs 'women exist' is violence, but 'choke on my cock' is justified because TERFs 'aren't human'. I don't know any of these people, but I can see who's saying what, in public, and frequently - just as you could if you weren't so determined to say that each side is as bad as the other.

Ok so you want to be exact about it.

Please do go back and find your comment(s) Lemon. Quote them exactly as you wrote them and then explain to us what you did say, what you meant, giving concrete examples from your own lived experience, and set out for us exactly how that translates to us here on this thread being ‘just as bad as those we are against.’ Ta.

Feminazi’, ‘TERF’, ‘bitch’, ‘witch’.
Times change. Woman-hate is eternal.

From jk,s twitter feed

I'm still waiting to hear what these threats are.

Ninkanink you literally are trying to erase my experiences, and now you're comparing them because others have had worse.

Sound familiar?

I am 100% against TRAs absolutely. They have also done a lot of damage in my life too, that doesn't mean that some women haven't done a lot of damage as well. And I do take things up with those people on an individual basis, however the individual incidents are becoming more regular in my life to form a pattern now. Of course, that won't count because ......., I'm sure.

Please do go back and find your comment(s)Lemon. Quote them exactly as you wrote them and then explain to us what youdidsay, what you meant, giving concrete examples from your own lived experience, and set out for us exactly how that translates to us here on this thread being ‘just as bad as those we are against.’ Ta.*

Maybe just read my actual words without adding arms and legs onto them.

No, I am not. In fact I am asking you talk about your experience, which is the opposite of erasure.

I am not cancelling you, I am telling you that I am interested in hearing the reasoned basis for your assertions on this thread.

For those mocking the idea that only a TW should play the role in "Danish Girl", this is what happened when Scarlett Johansson was set to play the role of a TM:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44829766

She was strongly criticised by the LGBT community for not letting the role go to a TM and then quit.

@DifficultPifcultDifficultLemon you said:

Both. And in my real life and lived experience feminists are actually a whole lot more verbally abusive towards transgender people. Although this isnt representative of online abuse and threats.

As I said, my lived experiences arent representative of online abuse, but I have seen the abuse with my own eyes. I also never once denied that men and TRAs are a massive problem. Of course they are. That doesn't mean that women arent also a massive part of the issue towards transgender people too, they really are.

Please can you describe your lived experience of abuse from feminists.

And in my real life and lived experience feminists are actually a whole lot more verbally abusive towards transgender people

OK, I've lifted a quote here, so you definitely did say this Please can you explain in your own words how women were/are more abusive than the numerous threats of rape, death (die in a grease fire!) and violence, (punch a TERF!) that they receive. Thanks!

Also, DifficultLemon here again are some of the responses on Twitter to JKR, which are not anywhere near the worst things said to other feminists. Please describe where anything as bad as this was said to transpeople by feminists:

medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d

IME feminists are verbally abusive if you don’t agree with their brand of feminism. I get it all the time.

Eddie Redmayne is one of the most talented actors of his generation. It was far more important to have a talented actor play the lead role in The Danish Girl than cast it according to demographics. The whole point of acting is to play someone else.

Many years ago before he was famous I met him. He was a humble, polite, hard-working and considerate person. Since he has been famous I think he has always come across as the same person he was then. There is nothing self-serving about his behaviour and to call him a prick is rude and inaccurate.

IME feminists are verbally abusive if you don’t agree with their brand of feminism. I get it all the time.

Please provide examples.

The whole point of acting is to play someone else

Would you be happy with him playing a black woman?

Could we have some examples of the feminist verbal abuse you’ve experienced, please?

Note: vehemently disagreeing with you is not abuse. Robust discussion and advocating fiercely for one’s position is not abuse. Telling you that you are misguided, uninformed or that your argument or opinion fails to stand up to reasoned analysis is not abuse. Being critical of your position is not abuse.

(It goes without saying, of course that I can’t presume to speak for nor represent all feminist women. Many brands of current feminism also aren’t actually feminist at all.)

@InOmniaParatus42

I don't think that article adds anything new. I also think it's pretty patronising to the medical profession who discovered, research and manage these conditions. I think it just reinforces that your genetics/biology/sex chromosomes matter and affects you.
For example people with Klinefelter's (XXY) are infertile, Turner's Syndrome (X0) often have heart defects and fertility issues, Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia which can cause infant girls' genitals to develop abnormally also puts them at risk of salt wasting crises.
These people all deserve to have their specific biology recognised and treated accordingly. It would be folly to ignore it in favour of any other identification.
I do think there is a debate to be had regarding surgery in young intersex children but even amongst these children, surgery occurs in a minority.
People are individual and they aren't just their sex/biology, but it is important and worthy of recognition.

Omg if you read that link that olive linked up above please be warned.

I can’t get to the end of it as it is just horrifying what people have sent to her

The rage and hate unleashed on her 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

And she knew this was coming and did it anyway. Spine of steel, that woman.

He’s a twerp.

Well if he isn't a prick, he's doing a very good job of coming across as one @Genevieva

If transwomen are in fact women, then the Danish Girl role should have gone to a woman - any woman, because apparently we are all the same, biology be damned. So ER stole a much needed starring role from a woman. Bad Eddy!.......except, as we see from the Scarlet Johansson example, transwomen want to be different and separate when it suits them for an acting role. Funny that.

Because feminists and transgender people are to busy being at loggerheads with each other over the rights each one has to be safe and comfortable, rather than joining together and targeting the actual need for a fight to be safe and comfortable.

Gosh, if only someone had told us feminists years ago we needed to target the need to fight to be safe and comfortable against male violence... oh wait.

Both. And in my real life and lived experience feminists are actually a whole lot more verbally abusive towards transgender people. Although this isnt representative of online abuse and threats.

You say "real life" and "lived experience" as if they are different things. JKR has been told to choke on a dick by hundreds of people - the fact that has been said online, en masse, doesn't mean it isn't "real life". It very much is.

If a feminist said to a trans person they should go and suck a dick, in a public tweet, online - you would presumably think they should lose their job for hate speech? It works both ways. And yet I've heard nothing about anyone losing their job for telling JKR to choke on a dick. Do you think it is excusable for them to have said that to her? Should they be punished?

If a feminist on a march wore a top saying "death to trans" would you think she should lose her job? I am a feminist and I absolutely do. Yet people went out of their way to defend TRAs wearing "death to terfs" tops at events - implicitly violent caption. Do you think it's acceptable they wore that?

You genuinely stand by your words that feminists are more verbally abusive? Goodness me.