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to hate what my name has become

445 replies

tohatemyname · 06/06/2020 12:03

I have a name which is ridiculed a lot in society and is frequently used as an insult. I already have low self esteem after years of abuse and depression and anxiety as a result. MN and other social media was my respite from all the emotional fallout of the abuse.
On MN now my name is used as an insult and thrown around casually like it doesn't matter.
It fucking does matter. My one safe place to escape my feelings has been pulled from under my feet.

OP posts:
Plumpi · 06/06/2020 12:05

Karen? Yes it's awful. I'm offended by the way it's used and it's not even my name. Don't worry, I think there will be a backlash.

HappyLemonSadLemon · 06/06/2020 12:05

Would you consider formally changing it?

HappyLemonSadLemon · 06/06/2020 12:06

If it is Karen, it gives me the absolute rage, actually. I hate the concept as it's so sexist. What's the male equivalent? (Sorry derailing a bit here, OP)

Plumpi · 06/06/2020 12:06

She shouldn't have to change her name!

rawlikesushi · 06/06/2020 12:08

Oh give over. It's a name used as shorthand for a particular type of person. If you're not that type of person, none of it is personal or about you. i suppose Sharons snd Traceys might have felt the same a decade or so ago. Unimportant nonsense that really shouldn't impact your self esteem or wellbeing in any way.

Sunshineonacloudyday20 · 06/06/2020 12:09

You have a lovely name.. honestly it will be a different name next year and another after that. It shouldn't be that way but its difficult to change 'society'.
I went to a festival a few years ago and a name was shouted out.. that same name was called out for many months after and used in a jokey way, thankfully it seems to have stopped now!
Please don't change it as previous poster has suggested!

rawlikesushi · 06/06/2020 12:10

Not every Kevin is a moody teenager and not every Karen is an entitled, opinionated middle-aged woman.

DartmoorChef · 06/06/2020 12:11

Same as being called Wendy...

HappyLemonSadLemon · 06/06/2020 12:11

I agree, she shouldn't have to change her name, but as the OP calls herself "tohatemyname" then it would seem a realistic option. I can't tell if she actually hates the name itself or (as per her post title) what the name has become synonymous with. There's a difference and if it's the former then changing it could go someway to solving the problem.

Laundrywoman · 06/06/2020 12:11

@HappyLemonSadLemon

If it is Karen, it gives me the absolute rage, actually. I hate the concept as it's so sexist. What's the male equivalent? (Sorry derailing a bit here, OP)
Not too long ago the male equivalent was Colin, thank goodness it's died out a lot now.
Bettysprocker · 06/06/2020 12:12

Karen, Susan, Wendy... I don't take it personally.

rawlikesushi · 06/06/2020 12:13

In the States I've heard Brad used as a male version of Karen.

Wasn't Jeff a meme for awhile.

Clymene · 06/06/2020 12:14

It's just misogyny

Bobbiepin · 06/06/2020 12:15

Kevin is the male equivalent

HappyLemonSadLemon · 06/06/2020 12:16

Isn't Colin someone who is just a bit boring. The Karen connotations are white, middle-upper class over privileged, judgemental, angry, superior. Far more negative than being a bit boring.

toastofthetown · 06/06/2020 12:17

It's not really a new thing. Sharon and Tracy have been used as a cultural shorthand for a long time here. I see Wendy used all the time here with negative connotations, and haven't seen any really backlash to that. It's only Karen that I've noticed any backlash to on Mumsnet.

Not just women's names either. Chad and Kevin are used often for men.

Hailtomyteeth · 06/06/2020 12:17

Ignore the the people who misuse your name, they're being stupid.
They really are.
You didn't choose your name.
It wasn't used the way it is today when you were given it.
Go to a mirror and practice your best 'withering look'. Give that or a Paddington hard stare to anyone being stupid with your name.
It could be worse. I knew a 'John Thomas'. My grandma dated a 'Percy'. My dad had an uncle 'Dick'.

SmudgeButt · 06/06/2020 12:18

And here I was thinking your name might be Sheila as that's the only normal name I could think of that was a bit of an insult and then only when in Australia. I had to google what "karen" was supposed to mean. Never heard it used as an insult, don't know any Karen's that are concerned about it.

Don't change your name, inevitably whatever you change it to will become the next fashion insult. Difficult some times but try to laugh it off.

montyliesandmontycries · 06/06/2020 12:18

The ‘Karen’ meme will pass. I’ve only ever met lively Karen’s...

Oldsongsrevived · 06/06/2020 12:22

That's my name, KARIN. I rolled my eyes when I first heard the Karen meme. I've got mixed feelings. I tell myself it's all a load of nonsense, but then I'm really hoping it'll disappear quickly as well. I am a middle aged woman, with short hair, but I definitely don't have that personality. It's a shame that the name's been hijacked, but it'll pass.

YANBU, it's disgusting to belittle women.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2020 12:22

I'm sorry OP. It's really ignorant and I cringe every time I see it used here.

It will pass though.

LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 06/06/2020 12:23

You simply can't go through life relying on anonymous internet discussion groups as your safe place, because you have no way of controlling them and indeed no right to do so. You need to look closer to home, and consider getting help such as counselling.

littleblackno · 06/06/2020 12:24

There are so many names that have had negative links. Sharon and Tracey, Colin, Dick.
I dont like the use of it but I know several Karen's and never think of the meme and I doubt most people do.
I think you should work on your self esteem rather than change your name.

NathanNathan · 06/06/2020 12:25

Imagine being called Florence. And having a niece.

The negative connotations everyone attaches to their period when describing it: "oh no Aunt Flo/AF" is here are just lovely. Angry

Pelleas · 06/06/2020 12:27

Misogynist way of erasing female voices, particularly middle-aged female voices.

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