To be upset over chlorinated chicken and considering leaving the uk

[Lovesgood]

I know a lot of people saw this coming. Its really upsetting how the uk is now beginning to bow down to our new masters. Im seriously considering to leave the country as chlorinated chicken will only be the beginning. They will completely ruin our farmers and foodstandards. And once theyve done that, who knows what else the US will demand, only for the UK to just roll over... Im quite sad over this actually. Any suggestions as to where to go? Whats Ireland like?

Just posted here for traffic.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chlorinated-chicken-british-markets-us-trade-deal-trump-a9548431.html#gsc.tab=0

Do you always bail out when something doesn’t go your way?

You need to stand and fight for what you believe in. The British public does not want food standards to drop so hit your keyboard and start chasing signatures for the NFU petition.
I’ve just signed

If you want to leave the country because of Brexit, and it's effects, you should. I'm married to an Italian, and on balance, we think post Brexit Italy is better for us, than post Brexit Britain. But take off the rose tinted glasses though, because whatever country you leave for, will have its pros and cons. In Italy it costs a fortune, just to change ownership of a car, for example. The UK is a good country. It has many advantages. You won't catch us going back though, and that's because our priorities are better met in Italy. You can't leave over one issue though, as gross as chlorine washed chicken is. I'd be amazed if the UK gets a deal out of the EU in the end. I think it's backed itself into being trump's sidekick. I also think that lots of British people feel more like Americans, than they do Europeans. I think we'll find the majority won't care about food standards. Those that do, will just make consumer choices that resolve the issue for themselves. I once heard a bloke in Aldi in Leeds, tell his kid to put back the organic bananas, and get the "normal" ones. That summed it up for me.

@pixelatedlunchbox - I think you put too much faith in how much our current government cares about British people and what they are feeding to their families.

They lie and lie and lie.

Boris Johnson then: there won't be customs checks
BJ now: ok, there'll be customs checks

BJ then: no border down the Irish Sea
BJ now: ok, a border down the Irish Sea

BJ then: no chlorinated chicken
BJ now: let's talk about chlorinated chicken

It looks like for awhile you will be able to avoid these products, but our farmers will likely be very pressured to adapt to the new lower american standards to survive. This is a very slippery slope to the bottom. It really upsets me. It leaves a very sinister feeling and not just about food but in general, because this has made it obvious how the UK will just go along with what ever the US demands.

Our farmers struggle enough as it is. They will be forced to adapt to similar low standards and that may not be good enough for them to compete.

I'm afraid the 'option' of buying better quality (for much higher prices) may disappear.

They promised this wouldn't happen - I've just seen the clip of Gove earlier this year promising exactly that.

Can anyone claim this lot of Tories can be trusted ever again?

The British public does not want food standards to drop

The vote for Brexit says they did. And even if it didn't, it's what will be cited when Boris says "Fuck off ", much as he said "Fuck business".

Where are all the Brexiteers that promised us this wouldn't happen now ? I can imagine the fun they are having in private with their blue passports, but surely one or two could pop in and tell us where they were wrong ?

If only the Tories hadn't had chlorinated chicken in their manifesto.

This government u-turns on everything (except DC's resignation) as BJ is such a populist. He might as well get Simon Cowell to canvas public opinion like a reality show in order to come up with policy. Basically if the government says something won't happen, we should always assume the opposite

Anybody shocked at the hypocrisy of BJ encouraging EU workers to come back to the UK and start work again? (The daily press conference)

surprised there's so much fuss when 52% of the population want this.

Let's be more accurate... 52% of people who voted (not 52% of the population) wanted this in 2016. Anyone who mentioned the prospect of lower food standards was accused of fearmongering.

Yeah. It was "Project Fear". But now it turns out it wasn't project fear and we all suffer.

Yeah. It was "Project Fear". But now it turns out it wasn't project fear and we all suffer.

The fable we told our kids about the scorpion and the frog - if only we'd paid attention ourselves eh ?

@Treacletoots

Those who say they can't afford the choice.. just don't eat meat. Vegetarianism is far cheaper than even the cheapest meat.

So glad we're vegetarian.

Fair enough except for two things

1. people should have the choice to become vegetarian rather than be forced into it for economic reasons
2. Why is to say that it wont affect all food stuffs - not just meat. Also what is to say it wont affect vegetable and grain production too.

Chlorinated chicken is a flag behind which lies the reduction in food standards. Chlorinated chicken is the soundbite people hear, but in fact the changes allow for the introduction of foodstuffs that other wise wouldn't make the standard, one of those is the chicken, it's not the only one though.

Ah so now I'm privileged am I? Because I buy British lamb? And you know this how? Maybe I just eat smaller portions of better quality meat less often with fewer transport miles?

You do realise our water is chlorinated right? That when you take a shower or a bath it's absorbed through your skin? And that fluoride in your toothpaste? Yeah, it's not so great for you either.

We aren't escaping this chemical soup we live in people. So quit freaking out or go live in a cave somewhere.

You do realise our water is chlorinated right? That when you take a shower or a bath it's absorbed through your skin? And that fluoride in your toothpaste? Yeah, it's not so great for you either.

Is your day job to spout bollocks too ?

"You do realise our water is chlorinated right? That when you take a shower or a bath it's absorbed through your skin? And that fluoride in your toothpaste? Yeah, it's not so great for you either. "

The levels of chlorine used are minuscule compared to the amount used to sanitise chicken.

Yes, well 52% of people who voted thought they were voting for oodles of money going into the NHS each week because Boris and Nigel had it written on the side of a big red bus. Some of us knew it was bullshit.

They thought, we'd be closing our borders and all the foreigners would be kept out. Seems we can't run our NHS or our care homes or get our crops harvested without them; as some of us knew all along.

I suspect a good many of them voted leave because they didn't want our bendy bananas banned. Well, they probably read the Daily Mail.

And so on and so on.

And now we face the prospect of lowered food standard. As a lot of us feared but were told we were scaremongering.

Oh, and I suspect most of them were some of the voters responsible for voting this bloody government into power.

That 52% of people who voted have a lot to answer for and so, tbh have the people who didn't bother to vote because they thought no one would vote leave.

Oh for god sake, how many more times....
It's not the chlorine that's the problem, it's the REASON is chlorinated in the first place!

Our farmers struggle enough as it is. They will be forced to adapt to similar low standards and that may not be good enough for them to compete.

They'll eventually sell up to the american farming companies and there won't be any struggle left. British farming (as you know it) will be dead.

Oh for god sake, how many more times.... It's not the chlorine that's the problem, it's the REASON is chlorinated in he first place!

Sssh. I was reloading for a second shot

They'll eventually sell up to the american farming companies and there won't be any struggle left. British farming (as you know it) will be dead.

It's a classic US business trick to buy competition in order to close it down.

Incidentally, does anyone who is surprised this is happening remember Cadburys ? Because it's pretty much the same outcome. Only for meat and chicken, not chocolate.

OP, YANBU. It's outrageous.

@Tanith exactly, not only will it be impossible to avoid (school meals etc) but it means that if you're not well off you have to eat crap.

Once this rain stops, socially distanced revolution anyone? So fed up with this completely necessary incursion in our standards.

No, OP, YANBU at all.

I am in despair at what is happening to this country. It feels as if everything I love and respect and cherish about the UK is disintegrating before my eyes.

Sadly, post-Brexit we have nowhere to go, realistically.

I think we need to be positive about all of this (since there isn't anything else we can do).

Who knew that in 2021 we'd get a chance to try a mix of rodent droppings and insect particles in the same meal ? You really can't grumble that you aren't getting value for money.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/food-standards-brexit-uk-us-trade-deal-maggots-rat-hair-worms-insects-mould-products-a8575721.html

“Insect-filled chocolates, rat hair-infested noodles, and orange juice containing maggots are just some of the “horrors” UK consumers could be forced to accept if post-Brexit Britain signs a wide-ranging trade deal with the USA.
“In the US, producers adhere to a “Defects Levels Handbook,” which sets out the maximum number of foreign bodies like maggots, insect fragments and mould that can be in food products before they are put on the market.
“For example, US producers are allowed to include up to 30 insect fragments in a 100g jar of peanut butter; as well as 11 rodent hairs in a 25g container of paprika; or 3mg of mammalian excreta (typically rat or mouse excrement) per each pound of ginger.
“In the EU there are no allowable limits for foreign bodies in food products.”

Can't you just eat far less chicken (once a month?) and only eat organic?

Can't you just eat far less chicken (once a month?) and only eat organic?

Look at the post directly above yours, megletthesecond. It's not simply about chicken.

pinktaxi It's pointless being logical when people get into hysterical mode.

I enjoy meat and would never be a vegetarian or vegan but I only buy free range meat from first class butchers who know the provenance of the meat they stock. Yes it's more expensive, yes it means I eat less meat because of that but I could not eat beef from a cow stuck in a crate or a chicken raised squashed in with thousands of others in metal cages, 24/7. I don't buy takeaways unless it's fish and chips or marguerita pizza, I never buy ready meals which contain meat, because I know they do not use free range. Same goes for eggs which must be free range.

I see people buying eg chickens for really low prices. They can't be stupid, they must know that the chicken has never seen daylight or walked on soil, same with the takeaways they buy and I'm guessing a lot of these same people will now be having hysterics over chlorinated chicken.

Do I think chicken should be dunked in chlorine - no. Would I buy a chicken which had been dunked in chlorine no - but then again, nor would I buy the sort of meat a lot of people appear to have no problem buying with no respect or care for the animal's life or how it was raised.

meglet, aside from the fact that it's about more than just chicken, what about those who can't afford to 'just eat organic'?

Or is it ok to have shit food as long it's just for the plebs?