To be upset over chlorinated chicken and considering leaving the uk

[Lovesgood]

I know a lot of people saw this coming. Its really upsetting how the uk is now beginning to bow down to our new masters. Im seriously considering to leave the country as chlorinated chicken will only be the beginning. They will completely ruin our farmers and foodstandards. And once theyve done that, who knows what else the US will demand, only for the UK to just roll over... Im quite sad over this actually. Any suggestions as to where to go? Whats Ireland like?

Just posted here for traffic.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chlorinated-chicken-british-markets-us-trade-deal-trump-a9548431.html#gsc.tab=0

That’s without mentioning the instances where food is unlabelled or you won’t have a choice such as school dinners, fast food places etc
I wouldn't trust the meat in many fast food joints anyway.

It's not the chlorinating that's the problem so much as the reasons why they do it.

@Runssometimes better but not perfect. We still have factory farms.

This is the second post on this in a few days, I'll just copy paste as many I'm the thread don't seem to grasp the issue (though with most of it I agree).

"I wish people would stop misusing the 'chlorine washed chicken' soundbite. The issue is not with eating the chicken there is nothing wrong with it. If you drink tap water, you'll be aware it has chlorine in it for cleaning purposes yes? You are happily drinking it.

The issue is animal husbandry, and the quality of life of the animals before slaughter. And if you really care so strongly on that front, don't eat meat"

I imagine that chicken will be eaten a lot less.

I don't think people voted 'Leave' (those that did) to see British farming destroyed. I do think that this Conservative government is playing with fire in this regard.

The food label can already be ambiguous. I was checking source for some British lamb mince and apparently the packaging says they could be Britain or New Zealand.

So I am guessing US would be added to the mix and still be called British.

Being in the eu dint ruin our food standards so why should this? Farming standards should always go up, we have some of the best in the world... Esp for pigs.

As long as things are clearly labeled etc, no one has to buy this meat.

Infact I'm considering going back to how chicken was, a special treat brought once a month rather than weekly and buy an expensive, free range chicken.

I never touch danepack bacon, I brought it once and I couldn't believe it, the amount of nasty grey liquid that came out of it was foul...

I have never brought it since. No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. and I'm sure we will be bombarded with hundreds of documentaries on the foul so called farms and poor welfare standards.

Wishing star, eu standards are absolutely nothing at all to write home about! It's a vast area with very poor corrupt countries as part of it, gangs... Etc.the eu has had no teeth to enforce any standards, maybe in 20 years it can but please don't think there is anything to trust there

We shouldn't be aligned to anyone else's food standards at all except our own.

Yes we get these occasionally shocking exposes on various farms but over all we care about animal husbandry and we want to keep improving it. We have many chefs who have brought these issues to light esp Jamie on his school food.

Does anyone think for 1⃣ second any of us would accept that meat in school dinners!!

We get told all the time about the credentials of our school meal provider.. There would be mass outrage if it turned out some nasty hormone pumped meat was suddenly in school dinners!!

Not going to happen.

ListeningQuietly
Your link is to an MOU from 2019

You were clearly under the impression that all US produced meat was banned from the EU -

U.S. Meat Export Federation;

"To import beef meat into the EU from the USA, a company must contract to purchase product produced in one of the EU approved slaughter and deboning facilities in the USA."

"Beef and pork produced in the USA destined to the EU market has to be produced from cattle or hogs born, raised and slaughtered in the USA and that have been traced throughout their lives in the non-hormone treated cattle (NHTC) programme or Pork for the European Union (PFEU) program."

U.S. Beef Exporters to the EU in alphabetical order;

www.usa-beef.org/for-distributors-sellers/importers-exporters/

"US-EU beef trade agreement passes European Parliament
29-Nov-2019 By Aidan Fortune" (copyright allowed link)

"US producers had a successful Thanksgiving following the European Parliament’s approval of a trade agreement between the two markets to increase share of hormone-free beef quotas."

www.globalmeatnews.com/Article/2019/11/29/US-EU-beef-
trade-agreement-passes-European-Parliament

So the European Parliament have voted in favour of increasing the quota of high quality meat imported from the US into the EU, but the UK are not allowed to discuss meat/food as part of their trade negotiations?

www.globalmeatnews.com/Article/2019/11/29/US-EU-beef-trade-agreement-passes-European-Parliament?utm_source=copyright&utm_medium=OnSite&utm_campaign=copyright

I'm puzzled as to how it can be cheaper to produce chicken in the USA and ship it across the Atlantic than it is to produce it in the UK. Is it because our welfare standards are much higher, and therefore costs more?

You could just not eat meat if you care about animal welfare...

Indeed.

That's far too extreme for some people sadly 🙄

You could just not eat meat if you care about animal welfare... [] Indeed. [] That's far too extreme for some people sadly

Homo Sapiens has evolved as an omnivore, not an obligate vegetarian. I'd rather live as nature intended, if it's all the same to you. Meat, fish, fruit, nuts, seeds, beans, vegetables of all stripes. Not necessarily in that order.

It annoys me too but I will just buy meat reared in the UK using the higher food standards. We only have one butcher in our town but that may be a possibility even if more expensive. We will just eat less meat. Pretty foreseeable once we left the EU though that we would be playing to the US tune. Hope the Brexiteers are happy.

Well, then you eat what meat you can get your hands on, Serendipity, which will be what the government allows people to sell, you know, that government people voted in? Our own people did this. Not the US. WE did this and as long as the Tories continue to be voted in, it will continue. The US just wants to sell product the way all capitalist nations do. It's our government who makes deals to buy.

US producers will go after contracts for school meals where lowest cost is what matters, followed by hospitals, prisons.

The food labelling will become ambiguous I would guess.

I can’t believe that people in the UK should accept this shit on a plate

Don't vote Tory then. People will accept anything that's cheap. This government has sold out everything, even the fucking Royal Mail and you're only just now about how unacceptable it all is when it's bloody chicken (that you don't have to accept at all, you need not rely on it, but at one point you rely on the postal system and the health system the Tories sold up and continue to do so) because it's from the US? You think you've been eating quality sourced meat every time you go to a restaurant, takeaway or fast-food establishment 😂😂😂?

Why not stop eating meat. It's not the end of the world.

A combination of production on a massive scale thereby cutting unit costs, feeding the cheapest available food (Remember what happened when cows were fed animal byproducts?) , cutting growth time by bulking up with hormones and growth accelerators, total disregard for animal welfare/good husbandry /safe slaughtering processes, and employing a cheap labour force.

If you manage to cut enough cents from each birds rearing costs then even factoring in the cost of packing frozen birds into a container and shipping them across the Atlantic makes economic sense. If you then manage to manipulate the UK market and undercut our farmers so that they end up going out of business you are in a good position to corner the market, and raise your prices to make even more profit.

Well, then you eat what meat you can get your hands on, Serendipity

I've taken to preferring game anyway. Have done for a while. Also I'd happily have fish over fowl any day anyway. As noted upthread, the clear message of Brexit was "I'm alright, so fuck you", so I've decided to embrace it. Damn sight less work than thinking I can tell you.

Why not stop eating meat. It's not the end of the world.

Asked and answered.

We already import masses of chicken (and other foodstuffs) from Europe, leaving the EU will make this market more expensive and difficult if border barriers are put in place so the US agricultural industries see us as an open target and they are locked and loaded.

If nothing else Brexit has made us very vunerable in terms of food safety , price and availability. Shame the pathetic remain campaign didn't make more of this , but then they didn't really make much of a case about any of the problems we are going to face.

Sorry, my first post was an answer to grassyhillocks

It’s not just meat though
GM food
Pesticide heavy
Food miles