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Rant alert! How do those who want Lockdown to continue justify the suffering of everyone else?

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Thefrenchbaguette · 05/06/2020 08:35

My 3 month old has been waiting for a hip scan to confirm her rather obvious DDH. She needs a harness, the GP already confirmed she will need one and put in an urgent referral at her 6 week review and still nothing because they're not doing them at all here! You can only use a harness up until 6 months and after that the treatment for DDH is an operation! My baby is going to have to have a completely unavoidable operation or suffer lifelong damage to her hips because the NHS is just not interested in anyone who doesn't have Covid19! There isn't even the option to pay for it to be done privately! I am furious and so sick of seeing countless threads and comments about how lockdown needs to be continued and even stricter! All very well with your comfortable house and perfectly secure income and no real risk to your overall well-being but what about everyone else who is suffering?!
A friend had an abnormal smear come back in January but the follow up has been indefinitely postponed! How many people are going to miss life saving diagnosis', life saving treatments! It's disgusting and I feel so unbelievably angry at what this country has come through so 90% of people can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold!

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EmeraldShamrock · 05/06/2020 09:25

OP you're being goady now.
Write to your MP. Knock into number 10. Stand naked on the road with a banner but blame the right people.

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NekoShiro · 05/06/2020 09:25

They should be focusing on getting the hospitals opened up again not the high street shops.

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highmarkingsnowbile · 05/06/2020 09:26

Nobody likes lockdown, but it's the lesser of all evils.

On the contrary, it seems like plenty of people are quite enjoying it.

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EmeraldShamrock · 05/06/2020 09:27

@MagicKingdomDizzy I am so sorry the stress is unbearable. I hope your DM recovers.

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StayinginSummer · 05/06/2020 09:27

YABVU

There isn’t a load of people shouting for total lockdown indefinitely. Where do you think they are?

You do realize that health services will be able to re establish now that virus has been repressed by... mmmm let me see... lockdown?!

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TheGirlWithAPrince · 05/06/2020 09:27

im with you because of lockdown i cant move into my new home ( council have to approve but wont at the moment)

so im currently living in 1 room that is falling apart and tiny and boiling with 1 small window with 2 toddlers aged 1 and 2 :(

the new house is a massive 3 bed with huge garden that i was supposed to move into in march so im like WHY couldnt lockdown have happened at least when i was in that lovely house haha Im just waiting impatiently

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heartsonacake · 05/06/2020 09:27

You are ignorant and uneducated on the coronavirus matter because you are, understandably, passionately angry about your child’s situation. But it’s clouding your judgement and you’re blaming the wrong people.

It’s not a case of wanting the lockdown to continue but a case of necessity, and not “everyone” is suffering just because you’re having a hard time.

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IndiaMay · 05/06/2020 09:28

Agreed it's really scary. Cancer diagnosis has dropped 75% since lockdown. Those people havent disappeared! They've just not had the screenings/been reluctant to go to a GP. The backlog will be absolutely fatal.

I wish people would stop crying 40,000 people!! 40,000 people HAVE NOT DIED OF CORONA VIRUS. The ridiculous over reaction has meant that anyone who has tested positive for corona virus either before or after their death is included that number, whether they've died of a burst appendix, a heart attack, a brain hemorrhage or any number of other issues. They would have died of these things whether or not they caught corona

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TabbyMumz · 05/06/2020 09:29

"formerbabe

"Because you can die from covid and pass it on to several others who will also die. Your baby will not die from having a hip problem"

"And apparently prolonging the life of mostly incredibly elderly people is more important than the mental and physical health of children"
Eh? Are you slightly mad? Prolonging the life of everyone, repeat EVERYONE, is more important than the mental and physical health of just children.

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Thefrenchbaguette · 05/06/2020 09:29

@Nonotthatdr Thank you, I appreciate your suggestions. I am using reusable nappies now with extra inserts to make them extra bulky. I will look into using a sling, we use one sometimes but I hadn't considered it as something that might help.

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DomDoesWotHeWants · 05/06/2020 09:29

And apparently prolonging the life of mostly incredibly elderly people is more important than the mental and physical health of children

So offensive. What ugly words. And lies, at that. Over 60 is not incredibly elderly.

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StayinginSummer · 05/06/2020 09:29

@formerbabe

Because you can die from covid and pass it on to several others who will also die. Your baby will not die from having a hip problem

And apparently prolonging the life of mostly incredibly elderly people is more important than the mental and physical health of children

That is a horrible statement. It’s not an either or. And elderly people’s lives do matter.

If we had lockdowned earlier it would have been perfectly possible to care for all and no one be forced to wait.
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CherryPavlova · 05/06/2020 09:29

I’m not sure it’s fair to say nobody has died because of lack of ventilators. Whilst technically correct, there were people denied access to ventilation. There are very significant numbers of excess deaths for people with learning disabilities, for example.
Many elderly were denied hospital admission and even oxygen.

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qweryuiop · 05/06/2020 09:29

@thefrenchbaguette

I want Lockdown restrictions to stop being lifted so that hospitals become able to test and test people with and for other diseases.

That's not what is happening. Instead, we're going to be allowed to go clothes shopping. People will continue to catch covid and a proportion will end up in hospital, taking beds and preventing other treatment and testing from continuing for longer.

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CHIRIBAYA · 05/06/2020 09:30

Surely the OP's daughter is AS important as everyone else - many of these 'everyones' having already lived, in many cases, very long lives. Maybe not as delicately put as it could have been but the truth is that many people are having to make incredible sacrifices while serious healthcare needs closer to home are being ignored and dismissed, yet people are not expetected to be bothered by this? Speaking up for your daughter does not make you selfish.

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Chloemol · 05/06/2020 09:31

Wow I get you are upset but ‘essentially just a bad cold’. It’s killed hundreds of thousands across the world in a short time, with some horrific consequences for some, and death for others, it’s left families devastated. Lots of various groups of people are more susceptible than others, and may still require treatment or die, your child won’t die, but may need an operation rather than a harness.

I agree the nhs needs to get back to treating everyone, my personal opinion is the nightingales should have been used for Covid and hospitals deep cleaned and re opened wherever possible. But there is the issue of staffing both

There are still areas where the rates are going up.

Your post indicates either you don’t really understand what’s happening, or you don’t care about being goady

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BeijingBikini · 05/06/2020 09:32

The ridiculous over reaction has meant that anyone who has tested positive for corona virus either before or after their death is included that number

Even people who haven't tested positive have been included - people with "suspected" covid but a negative or not test.

I read that 240,000 people have had cancer treatment/diagnosis/screening delayed or cancelled; that is horrendous.

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Inkpaperstars · 05/06/2020 09:32

"But actually I'm using my daughter's situation to highlight a bigger problem and specifically question why people suffering with Covid are more important than people suffering with other conditions?"

As individuals they are not. As part of the problem of a novel virus that would grow exponentially if unchecked they are, in the sense that during that peak there would not be health care for covid or any other condition, not to mention the other social and economic impact.

Basically whether or not you believe that exponential growth on the virus would have occurred, that has been broadly the basis of global policy. So the answer to very many questions is exponential growth, and the predicted (again, many unknowns) knock on effects of it.

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Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse · 05/06/2020 09:33

Very thoughtless comment OP. Lots of people are waiting on operations and treatments, myself included but it’s not just a cold. I work for NHS, I’d hate to tell that to the people who worked hard through it, made sacrifices and families who lost loved ones. Also nobody is clear on the long term effects Covid will have.

Clinics and Outpaitents will be up and running again soon so I’m sure your child will receive the treatment needed.
Everyone is fed up with lockdown but looking at the science holistically, they had no other choice. Everyone not just you has had to make difficult sacrifices that may have long term effects for years to come.

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TabbyMumz · 05/06/2020 09:33

"They would have died of these things whether or not they caught corona"

Not necessarily. Corona virus creates blood clots which causes those heart attacks, strokes, pulmonary embolism etc which they died of. I think very few people fit the description of dying of something else, but just happening to have corona at the same time.

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UnderTheBus · 05/06/2020 09:33

Your baby will not die from having a hip problem
Perhaps not, but people will die from not having cancer screenings, or from missing other surgery and appointments. Maybe not now but these things will have a long term effect.

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CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 05/06/2020 09:33

@formerbabe

Because you can die from covid and pass it on to several others who will also die. Your baby will not die from having a hip problem

And apparently prolonging the life of mostly incredibly elderly people is more important than the mental and physical health of children

I think you will find their lives have not been prolonged, they have been sent back to their care homes, to die, after all, who wants to die in hospital

and, as said, it is NOT an either or situation. No one is more important than anyone else, in fact, it may be argued that those with less of a chance of recovery have been deemed unsuitable for treatment
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Cadent · 05/06/2020 09:33

Not one person who has died with the virus (because let's not forget that they have never been able to differentiate from dying of and dying with) died because of a lack of access to treatment.

London woman dies of suspected Covid-19 after being told she was 'not priority' . (She was black).

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/london-woman-36-dies-of-suspected-covid-19-after-being-told-she-is-not-priority

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StayinginSummer · 05/06/2020 09:33

@IndiaMay

Agreed it's really scary. Cancer diagnosis has dropped 75% since lockdown. Those people havent disappeared! They've just not had the screenings/been reluctant to go to a GP. The backlog will be absolutely fatal.

I wish people would stop crying 40,000 people!! 40,000 people HAVE NOT DIED OF CORONA VIRUS. The ridiculous over reaction has meant that anyone who has tested positive for corona virus either before or after their death is included that number, whether they've died of a burst appendix, a heart attack, a brain hemorrhage or any number of other issues. They would have died of these things whether or not they caught corona

You are factually wrong, as well as very offensive to anyone who has lost a loved one recently to the virus. The excess death data show that many more than 40,000 people have died, and of these most in all likelihood from covid19, and not ‘we’re going to die anyway’ as many people pretty cruelly suggest.

And I say again. If we had locked down earlier, thousands would not have had to wait so long for cancer treatment. So maybe listen to the people who cried lockdown?
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