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Rant alert! How do those who want Lockdown to continue justify the suffering of everyone else?

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Thefrenchbaguette · 05/06/2020 08:35

My 3 month old has been waiting for a hip scan to confirm her rather obvious DDH. She needs a harness, the GP already confirmed she will need one and put in an urgent referral at her 6 week review and still nothing because they're not doing them at all here! You can only use a harness up until 6 months and after that the treatment for DDH is an operation! My baby is going to have to have a completely unavoidable operation or suffer lifelong damage to her hips because the NHS is just not interested in anyone who doesn't have Covid19! There isn't even the option to pay for it to be done privately! I am furious and so sick of seeing countless threads and comments about how lockdown needs to be continued and even stricter! All very well with your comfortable house and perfectly secure income and no real risk to your overall well-being but what about everyone else who is suffering?!
A friend had an abnormal smear come back in January but the follow up has been indefinitely postponed! How many people are going to miss life saving diagnosis', life saving treatments! It's disgusting and I feel so unbelievably angry at what this country has come through so 90% of people can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold!

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imsooverthisdrama · 05/06/2020 08:58

Op you have gone off point here , yanbu to say that you think lockdown has gone on long enough and that your child can't have treatment I agree .
But yabu to call Covid a bad cold , for some yes and your right the nhs has coped and in my opinion I don't think it's been as bad as the government expected.
Lots of people have been very ill and many have died so it really is bad taste to call it a bad cold .
You may have many people sympathetic to your situation but that comment will not .

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TheCanterburyWhales · 05/06/2020 08:59

My Aunt died because of a lack of treatment.
No ICU bed available.

Your utter selfishness is disgusting.

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Thefrenchbaguette · 05/06/2020 08:59

For the record, I said for 90% of people it is a bad cold.... I never minimised the suffering of those very vulnerable groups who have died. Most people will not die of Covid, most people can self treat at home and whilst it's unpleasant, are in not danger. Many people don't even get symptom so what would you call that? I'm not saying that we don't care for the vulnerable, I'm saying why forget that why are we allowing others to suffer as well? The daily death rate from cancer and other conditions are far far higher than Covid but we're ignoring them all! And that's my question!.why? Why is that okay! You're pissed off I called it a bad cold... Fine, I'm awful, I get it.. But still, could you answer the question! Why is that okay?

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Sparklingbrook · 05/06/2020 08:59

so 90% of people can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold!

I am guessing you didn't see Kate Garraway on GMB this morning. Sad

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TingTastic · 05/06/2020 09:00

To be honest, I can understand why you describe it as a bad cold for most people (my 83 year old aunt who tested positive used exactly the same words). However, you do need to remember that a lot of people on here have lost friends or relatives to CV19 and those words really aren’t fair

The only reason that the NHS have been able to cope is by shutting down all non-lifesaving treatment

However, given that schools are partly re-opened, I do think (and hope) that the NHS will start doing all urgent treatment again asap, hopefully including the harness

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Teawiththat · 05/06/2020 09:01

I don't think anyone would be against hospitals starting back up on other treatments and appointments even if they don't want everything to open. The hospital here is still continuing with most things, and has done throughout.

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Songsofexperience · 05/06/2020 09:02

I feel so unbelievably angry at what this country has come through so 90% of people can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold!

I know a lot of people have picked up on this already but sadly the issue is that COVID feels a bit like Russian roulette. Most get nothing or a slight cold but others really get it. I was ill for 3 months and still feel unusually tired. I am a 40 year old normally really fit female... very odd.
However I've suffered from this lockdown immensely in other ways. Lost my job, marriage broke down, DD13 can't get her braces removed although they're practically falling apart, her mental health is really compromised because she switched schools in January etc.
Big and small things all at once. I need to see friends and can't.
I want this lockdown to end as much as you do as I think we will ultimately pay a higher price if it goes on.
Just don't say it's a cold though- it's a new unknown virus and we don't know what it does to the immune system. It's really not a good idea to let it spread...

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EmeraldShamrock · 05/06/2020 09:02

Yanbu to be angry and frustrated.
Blaming individuals is not going to help, the government should have made safe arrangements for people to get medical treatment.
Lockdown and care for those in need was possible. No point in getting angry at an individual online you've no idea how their life has changed with Covid19.

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formerbabe · 05/06/2020 09:02

You're not wrong op...it's a mild illness for most. 88% of the deaths have been in the over 65s apparently. Yes, it's sad but I'm not sure the entire destruction of society and our children's future and current health and well being being ruined is worth this.

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Teawiththat · 05/06/2020 09:03

Also some of your comments are disgusting.

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Fatted · 05/06/2020 09:03

@UnderTheBus you have hit the nail on the head.

We all thought Brexit would bring about the end of the NHS. It was in fact Coronavirus. No one is able to receive health care currently, unless they have Covid 19. And even then you're being told not to come in until you're at death's door. Schools closed. Other public services scrapped. All in the name of protecting us.

It's the paranoid and wealthy who want lockdown to continue.

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SiaPR · 05/06/2020 09:03

What an insensitive post. I would not disagree with you but your post is all “my baby my baby my baby”why is it more important than anyone else?

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SockYarn · 05/06/2020 09:05

2, 3 or 5 years down the road we're going to be looking back and wonder why there has been a boom in preventable diseases, and why people are presenting with extremely advanced cancer symptoms which should have been picked up earlier.

Agree that at present we don't have a health service. We have a Covid service.

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djeoah · 05/06/2020 09:05

I agree with you OP, people are jumping on your for the 90% bad cold comment but you're correct. The vast majority of people have mild symptoms. Things need to get going again, too many people are enjoying their extended holiday on furlough not taking into account the fact that the longer they're on furlough the less likely they are to have a job to go back to. It's ridiculous. I know someone who's baby had what your little girl has and I totally understand how upset/worried you are.

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iVampire · 05/06/2020 09:05

One the NHS wasn’t overwhelmed is that it shut down everything that wasn’t life-saving or causing severe compromise in the immediate 3 months

It was on the simple, but brutal, basis that the lesser service was preferable to widespread death. If hospitals became entirely unsafe, then the toll of human misery would be so much worse.

Right now, on the basis of controlled easing, hospitals are beginning to restore services.

If lockdown was just stopped, then they’d have to go back onto the ‘peak Covid’ arrangements until they saw what happened in terms of second and subsequent waves. That would curtail the restoration of other services

If you want NHS offering as full a range of services as soon as possible, then keeping lockdown in place for as long and as strictly as possible is the way to achieve it

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Dementeddotcom · 05/06/2020 09:05

I suffer with PTSD and throughout my pregnancy I have not had any psychology appointments because they cancelled them before my first visit. Was gutted. Don’t understand what psychologists can do atm either tho?

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EmeraldShamrock · 05/06/2020 09:07

My Aunt died because of a lack of treatment
No ICU bed available
Same for my DM - When we asked why she wasn't in ICU the nurse said she was really sorry but there was no room.
They asked us to bring in her Cpap from home for other patients. Sad
See how the media have had a lid on it yet Italy was crying to the nation.

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Cadent · 05/06/2020 09:07

For the record, I said for 90% of people it is a bad cold.... I never minimised the suffering of those very vulnerable groups who have died.

No, you didn't, you said 'so 90% of people can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold'.

Lots of young people have died, including a 13yo child who died without his family at his bedside and at his funeral.

I've lost an uncle to COVID too and I am very afraid for my chronic asthmatic, elderly mum, so your comment is in very poor taste.

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CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 05/06/2020 09:08

it is a pandemic,
it is bad news.All round.
stay healthy, stay well

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Inkpaperstars · 05/06/2020 09:08

Hang on...is the activity of the NHS part of lockdown? I genuinely thought that was a separate issue and lockdown was about shops, going out etc...

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trappedsincesundaymorn · 05/06/2020 09:08

@SiaPR

What an insensitive post. I would not disagree with you but your post is all “my baby my baby my baby”why is it more important than anyone else?

Well I don't know about the OP but if it was a choice between my child and Gladys down the road, then sorry Gladys but I love my child more. Isn't that what good parents do??
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formerbabe · 05/06/2020 09:08

Fingers crossed we will get to see some more videos on social media of the over worked nhs staff performing dance routines soon

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PeppaisaBitch · 05/06/2020 09:09

I'm sure you're right about treatment for your daughter. It you need to push the drs more.
My mil was diagnosed with cancer the Monday before lockdown started and had her 3rd round of chemo this week. Things are still running in our area for urgent cases.

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formerbabe · 05/06/2020 09:10

Well I don't know about the OP but if it was a choice between my child and Gladys down the road, then sorry Gladys but I love my child more. Isn't that what good parents do?

I totally agree your babys health is more important

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Inkpaperstars · 05/06/2020 09:10

I also thought that lockdown was what would enable us to get the NHS back to normal faster than if it was overwhelmed by exponential growth of the virus, more fool me I guess. All we needed to do to get all these cancelled appointments back was let the virus surge to a natural peak.

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