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Friend's affair - AIBU to get involved?

128 replies

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:29

I am the first to say to anyone to never get involved in someone else's relationship as you end up being the bad guy usually but I feel like I can't just sit by and watch, so I need you guys to help me decide whether I should get involved or not.

Background - Good friend of many years. She is very sensitive and I am quite outspoken - so I am extra careful when giving my opinion. She has been married for 10 years with 3 kids and is early 30s. I don't hate her DH but don't like him much either (never say or show this) as he is grumpy, quite selfish and I believe financially controlling. They don't get on great and basically live separate lives.

She has been having an 'emotional' affair (says they haven't done anything sexual yet but would like to) for about 6 months. I thought it would die down thanks to lockdown but it has become worse and more intense. She sees no-one else nor goes into shops as she is so worried about the virus but happily still meets him. She doesn't have anyone else to talk to so I have to hear about it all the time. I've told her I think it is wrong and she will get caught and she just says she doesn't care. I say the new man is not good enough for her and she will say I don't know him like she does etc - I am sick of hearing about it but I like her telling me things to make sure she is staying safe.

My reasons for wanting to get involved:

  1. She has a good life - her DH brings in the majority of the money and deals with everything (bills, shopping, childcare, etc) I personally think he is quite controlling as she doesn't get a say in these things but she is also the type to not want any of this responsibility and I would worry how she would cope alone as she has never had to deal with adulthood really. She has no bank account of her own and all the bills, car, rent agreement etc is in her DH's name.
  1. I do not like/trust the new man she is involved with.
She has told me many examples where he has been plain rude but I just get a strange feeling about him. I have asked what his last name is and she won't give it to me (I'm not sure she knows it). She was upset as he told her which house he lived in and said he lived alone - then she found out he lived in a completely different area with his brother - his excuse was he's had to rent his 4 bedroom home to move in with his brother in a 1 bed flat as the brother has gone through a bad break up. He doesn't work. He is into every conspiracy theory going. This is fine but she believes everything he says - it started out that he would say not to eat certain foods so she stopped, then it started with speaking to anyone on the phone as the government is listening in (she doesn't have his number anyway) and now it is not shaving pubic hair as its part of some ritual or conspiracy. They only meet during the night and usually in a field - I ask her what they do and she said they look for aliens. Something doesn't sit right with me about this man and I am worried about her safety. Everything I say she has an answer for and believes everything he says without question (he said no-one has died from COVID-19 and we know someone who did and was confirmed by the hospital that this was the case but now she is saying that it's not real and it's a cover-up etc). She is usually not like this at all. Not only is she married but her personality is changing.

Sorry for the long thread. I didn't want to drip-feed.

YABU - Do NOT get involved and leave her to it.
YANBU - DO get involved and try and stop it.

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Stampy84 · 03/06/2020 13:36

How were you thinking about stopping it? What actions were you planning?

SummerHouse · 03/06/2020 13:37

What can you do? You have told her what you think. You could only tell her DP which could be catastrophic.

FrodoTheDodo · 03/06/2020 13:38

What do you mean by get involved exactly?

Neap · 03/06/2020 13:39

What are you going to so -- stage an intervention? Rock up in the field in an ET costume?

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:41

I don't know how I would get involved. Maybe threaten to tell her DH or make a fake account to try and find out more about him. But I don't know if that's way too over the top or not my business.

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Truthpact · 03/06/2020 13:43

Nothing you can do sadly. She's an idiot as well as the OM. Doesn't like her husband, yet thinks a crazy guy with no jobs who lies and likely has another partner us a great choice.

She's made her bed and she's stupidly happy. Let her mess up. She'll never learn otherwise.

Stampy84 · 03/06/2020 13:44

@NoseyfriendNC I would stay out of it- make it clear that you don’t want to hear another thing about this man- I get you want her to be safe, but she’s a grown woman and needs to do that for herself. If she brings him up, end the call. She has to make her own mistakes

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:46

She's made her bed

This is usually my way of thinking and did think this at first but this man gives me the creeps. He said he's never had a partner before, he's mid-40s. I wanted to do a claire's law check to put my mind at rest but she won't give/doesn't know his last name.

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namesnames · 03/06/2020 13:48

No, don't threaten to tell her husband, that is not what friends do.

There is nothing you can other than tell her exactly how you feel.

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:48

Stampy84
Yes I thought that too. I think it's because I hear about it that I feel more involved. I could also be making it worse as whenever I say his faults she jumps to his defense.

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FrodoTheDodo · 03/06/2020 13:49

No, don't tell her DH and don't start making fake SM accounts. Stay out of it.

Embracelife · 03/06/2020 13:49

."" They only meet during the night and usually in a field - I ask her what they do and she said they look for aliens.""

Really?
Pokemon go?

Just leave her to it
Presumably her husband is aware she goes out at night...

Have you met this guy? Sounds like a fantasy

Stampy84 · 03/06/2020 13:50

@NosyfriendNC

You’re intentions are in the right place, you sound like a good friend.
I do think however she’s got to see for herself- if you’re very worried the only thing I can think of is to follow her to his house, see where he lives and try to get more info on him from there?

PregnantPorcupine · 03/06/2020 13:50

He sounds like a dick but then her husband sounds pretty awful too. If she asks your opinion then tell her you are worried, but this

I don't know how I would get involved. Maybe threaten to tell her DH or make a fake account to try and find out more about him. But I don't know if that's way too over the top or not my business

Is waaaay OTT. She's an adult!

Stampy84 · 03/06/2020 13:50

@NoseyfriendNC sorry just seen she doesn’t go to his house! I’m not sure what to suggest now!

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:50

No, don't threaten to tell her husband, that is not what friends do.

I would usually agree (I have looked the other way with many friends before) but it has come to the point where I am thinking would I rather keep her friendship or make sure she's safe.

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Embracelife · 03/06/2020 13:51

And she doesnt have a good life or marriage if your point 1 is correct about the financial control.

Stampy84 · 03/06/2020 13:52

@NoseyfriendNC what sort of fake account? If you don’t know his surname that’s pretty pointless?

Embracelife · 03/06/2020 13:53

Maybe encourage her to get financial independence a bank account etc before worrying about her fantasy boyfriend

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:53

No she doesn't go to his house. He told her he lived somewhere else but then she say him unlocking a door to flats and he said he'd moved in with his brother - could be a lie. She hasn't met any family or friends and only speaks on a chat app so she doesn't have his number. I have never met him but seen pictures and some messages.

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NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:55

And she doesnt have a good life or marriage if your point 1 is correct about the financial control

I wonder if she is latching on to anyone who gives her attention to get out of the marriage.

what sort of fake account? If you don’t know his surname that’s pretty pointless?

This is true and I didn't think about this. I thought I could find out more info on him but he would probably just lie to me too.

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AllNaturalIngredients · 03/06/2020 13:55

Not unreasonable to try and talk to her, but be careful of how you go about it. You sound like a good friend xx

YukoandHiro · 03/06/2020 13:56

Sounds like the two men involved here are some prize finds!

Don't get involved. If it all comes crashing down in some way, you need to be there to help her pick up the pieces and potentially support her through those difficult months learning to live independently.

The fact is she won't thank you for interfering. She will basically cut you off and if she's really as isolated as you're suggesting, that's not ideal.

You can, however, emphasise again that you think her behaviour wrong and that you don't want her to discuss it with you anymore.

Embracelife · 03/06/2020 13:57

Tell her he sounds great and you d like to meet him for a socially distance alien searching picnic
Play along
Get to know him
Then you can present facts

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:57

Maybe encourage her to get financial independence a bank account etc before worrying about her fantasy boyfriend

I have said he doesn't work and you only do a few hours on minimum wage so how would you cope financially together and she says she will get a better paid full-time job and she doesn't want the headache of having to get her own bank account or anything.

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