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Friend's affair - AIBU to get involved?

128 replies

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:29

I am the first to say to anyone to never get involved in someone else's relationship as you end up being the bad guy usually but I feel like I can't just sit by and watch, so I need you guys to help me decide whether I should get involved or not.

Background - Good friend of many years. She is very sensitive and I am quite outspoken - so I am extra careful when giving my opinion. She has been married for 10 years with 3 kids and is early 30s. I don't hate her DH but don't like him much either (never say or show this) as he is grumpy, quite selfish and I believe financially controlling. They don't get on great and basically live separate lives.

She has been having an 'emotional' affair (says they haven't done anything sexual yet but would like to) for about 6 months. I thought it would die down thanks to lockdown but it has become worse and more intense. She sees no-one else nor goes into shops as she is so worried about the virus but happily still meets him. She doesn't have anyone else to talk to so I have to hear about it all the time. I've told her I think it is wrong and she will get caught and she just says she doesn't care. I say the new man is not good enough for her and she will say I don't know him like she does etc - I am sick of hearing about it but I like her telling me things to make sure she is staying safe.

My reasons for wanting to get involved:

  1. She has a good life - her DH brings in the majority of the money and deals with everything (bills, shopping, childcare, etc) I personally think he is quite controlling as she doesn't get a say in these things but she is also the type to not want any of this responsibility and I would worry how she would cope alone as she has never had to deal with adulthood really. She has no bank account of her own and all the bills, car, rent agreement etc is in her DH's name.
  1. I do not like/trust the new man she is involved with.
She has told me many examples where he has been plain rude but I just get a strange feeling about him. I have asked what his last name is and she won't give it to me (I'm not sure she knows it). She was upset as he told her which house he lived in and said he lived alone - then she found out he lived in a completely different area with his brother - his excuse was he's had to rent his 4 bedroom home to move in with his brother in a 1 bed flat as the brother has gone through a bad break up. He doesn't work. He is into every conspiracy theory going. This is fine but she believes everything he says - it started out that he would say not to eat certain foods so she stopped, then it started with speaking to anyone on the phone as the government is listening in (she doesn't have his number anyway) and now it is not shaving pubic hair as its part of some ritual or conspiracy. They only meet during the night and usually in a field - I ask her what they do and she said they look for aliens. Something doesn't sit right with me about this man and I am worried about her safety. Everything I say she has an answer for and believes everything he says without question (he said no-one has died from COVID-19 and we know someone who did and was confirmed by the hospital that this was the case but now she is saying that it's not real and it's a cover-up etc). She is usually not like this at all. Not only is she married but her personality is changing.

Sorry for the long thread. I didn't want to drip-feed.

YABU - Do NOT get involved and leave her to it.
YANBU - DO get involved and try and stop it.

OP posts:
IdblowJonSnow · 03/06/2020 19:17

Yanbu to be concerned but I'm not sure what you can do. He does sound really odd and it could be dodgy that they only ever meet in an isolated field, that said where else is there to go...
I wouldn't tell her husband. Also if u alienate her she'll stop telling you where she is and will then be even less safe.
I can see why you're not thrilled about this sit
situation! Sad

supersop60 · 03/06/2020 19:24

There is nothing you can say, OP, that will change her mind. You can make your position clear - that you think he is not right for her (understatement) - and then be there when it all goes wrong.
Your friend seems very passive and has no boundaries - what was her childhood like?

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 20:10

If you don’t agree with her affair fine, stop being friends with her, but to get involved to the point of making fake accounts and the like is far too much involvement.

Do you think she’s going to thank you when you tell her husband? I’m pretty sure she wont.

I don't agree with her having an affair I think it's terrible but in normal circumstances, I would ask not to be involved and look the other way as it's their life to ruin. The only reason I am wondering whether to get involved is because of the man she is seeing. I am genuinely concerned for her and no-one in their right mind would find this man appealing so I feel like shaking her.

I agree that there is not a lot I can do as she is an adult and won't listen to me.

I think she had quite a normal childhood. Definitely not a majorly traumatic one. Lived with both mum and dad and they divorced when she was in primary - there was some DV which could be a factor but she has a good relationship with both parents now and trusts them both with her DCs. They also have a good relationship and both go over for xmas and birthdays at the same time.

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Mummytea24 · 03/06/2020 20:52

Unfortunately, I think you just need to listen and be there to help when it falls apart.

Frankola · 03/06/2020 21:02

There's no way they're "looking for aliens" alone in a field at night...
Everyone involved (apart from you OP) sounds totally bonkers!

TheNewSchmoo · 03/06/2020 21:17

Where is she telling her husband she is when she's out at night looking for aliens in a field?

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 21:30

I don't know what she tells her DH. Before lockdown, he would be at work and she would get a friend or her mum round to watch the DCs but her mum stopped after she got suspicious.

It does sound bonkers but she is not usually bonkers which is why it is so weird and concerning.

I do believe they haven't even kissed as I think she would tell me and shows me some of the messages that are saying when they have sex. This makes it weirder though and at first I thought he wasn't attracted to her or something. And him waiting for her pubic hair to grow sounds like he's stalling - but then he's odd so he probably would say something like that.

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VenusTiger · 03/06/2020 22:01

Sorry OP but I'd just tell her straight that this weirdo is not good for anyone let alone her - he doesn't like women or children, I mean WTF! Remind her over and over about this and tell her that she is both a woman and a mother.
I'd definitely tell the DH - sorry, but I would - she needs protecting by the sounds of it! It's not your responsibility to "break up the family" as you put it, but surely you're her friend and I think she needs saving from this whole sorry mess. Does she have any parents you could talk to? This weird man sounds predatory and I'd sure want to know if my adult child was meeting in fields with a woman and child hating control freak!

Embracelife · 03/06/2020 22:05

Tell her this man could kill her.
She has no idea who he is or his intentions.

If she wants to leave her marriage fair enough.

VenusTiger · 03/06/2020 22:05

Also OP, he thinks the virus is a lie but meets in secret, in a field and won't kiss her? Yeah, he's not right at all - she's attracted to the attention - she's also going from one controlling relationship straight into another, although tbf to the DH, it sounds like your friend is a completely not bothered about any kind of responsibility and just lets any old person push her around - how has she brought up 3 kids with no backbone?

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 23:02

I have said I think he is a weirdo and have question things he's said but she has an answer for everything. I have not told her I think he's dangerous as I think she wouldn't listen and probably fall out with me over it. I joked that he could be married and she went nuts and started crying saying he wouldn't lie to her.

Her mum got suspicious and said she wasn't going to babysit as she doesn't want to be put in an awkward position but she doesn't know what a weirdo he is.

She has always been a bit passive but liked an easy life so 'let' her DH be in control. But with this new man literally brings nothing positive to her life but she is acting like a teenager and doing and believing everything he says so although she's always been gullible and a push-over but never to this extent.

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Starcup · 03/06/2020 23:48

Fair point OP, he does sound like an absolute weirdo. Having read more of your replies he sounds unhinged tbh

Sadly she’s clearly infatuated with him (god knows why) so she’s going to be the one that ruins her life potentially.

I’d just leave her to it. I understand your frustration but what can you do. She’s acting like a bludy idiot!

JingsMahBucket · 03/06/2020 23:55

@NoseyfriendNC this guy sounds like serial killer. Or at least a lady killer. If you have his photo, could you enquire with the police for some guidance, such as available social services? Also, do you know the name of the field? Does your friend have family you could engage for help?

What a scary shit show.

minimummum · 04/06/2020 00:15

Ok I might be over reacting but I would get him checked out by Clares law. He sounds really strange and I would be equally worried about my friend.

Harrysmum2020 · 04/06/2020 02:28

Scary stuff

thenightsky · 04/06/2020 11:41

Where did she meet this mysterious man in the first place? I am curious to know how their paths crossed given their very different lives. Confused

LouiseTrees · 04/06/2020 11:58

Has he ever asked her for money? There’s something very Catfish about this.

LouiseTrees · 04/06/2020 12:00

Have you done an image search with his photo?

BiggestJulie · 04/06/2020 12:27

Just be there to listen to her, give your opinion whenever asked, and be there for her to help pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong. New guy sounds bizarre and awful, but your friend is obsessed and you won’t dissaude her, so more active intervention could easily mean she cuts you off - and it sounds like she needs you now more than ever.

Mittens030869 · 04/06/2020 12:49

If there was DV involved, I would suspend that her dad was controlling towards her. My F was like that, and my DSis ended up in an abusive first marriage. You end up having a skewed view of love and don't have proper boundaries. That can change, my DSis and I are both in healthy loving relationships now.

Mittens030869 · 04/06/2020 12:50

I meant 'suspect' not 'suspend', predictive text again! Blush

Euclid · 04/06/2020 13:34

It sounds dangerous to me too. I agree that you shouldn't tell her husband but could you discuss it with her mother?

LouiseTrees · 04/06/2020 18:30

Does the chat app give any more details? I think looking into the guy more but without her knowing it is warranted.

Dougalthesyrianhamster · 04/06/2020 18:48

@FrodoTheDodo Stay out of it

OP is concerned for her safety. Would you stay out of it if it was a family member? Friends are family to me.

Dougalthesyrianhamster · 04/06/2020 18:50

I get you @NoseyfriendNC I'd be doing whatever I could if I was worried for her actual safety.

Do whatever it takes to find his surname and inform another of her family members that you're concerned for her wellbeing and above all, her safety