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Friend's affair - AIBU to get involved?

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NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 13:29

I am the first to say to anyone to never get involved in someone else's relationship as you end up being the bad guy usually but I feel like I can't just sit by and watch, so I need you guys to help me decide whether I should get involved or not.

Background - Good friend of many years. She is very sensitive and I am quite outspoken - so I am extra careful when giving my opinion. She has been married for 10 years with 3 kids and is early 30s. I don't hate her DH but don't like him much either (never say or show this) as he is grumpy, quite selfish and I believe financially controlling. They don't get on great and basically live separate lives.

She has been having an 'emotional' affair (says they haven't done anything sexual yet but would like to) for about 6 months. I thought it would die down thanks to lockdown but it has become worse and more intense. She sees no-one else nor goes into shops as she is so worried about the virus but happily still meets him. She doesn't have anyone else to talk to so I have to hear about it all the time. I've told her I think it is wrong and she will get caught and she just says she doesn't care. I say the new man is not good enough for her and she will say I don't know him like she does etc - I am sick of hearing about it but I like her telling me things to make sure she is staying safe.

My reasons for wanting to get involved:

  1. She has a good life - her DH brings in the majority of the money and deals with everything (bills, shopping, childcare, etc) I personally think he is quite controlling as she doesn't get a say in these things but she is also the type to not want any of this responsibility and I would worry how she would cope alone as she has never had to deal with adulthood really. She has no bank account of her own and all the bills, car, rent agreement etc is in her DH's name.
  1. I do not like/trust the new man she is involved with.
She has told me many examples where he has been plain rude but I just get a strange feeling about him. I have asked what his last name is and she won't give it to me (I'm not sure she knows it). She was upset as he told her which house he lived in and said he lived alone - then she found out he lived in a completely different area with his brother - his excuse was he's had to rent his 4 bedroom home to move in with his brother in a 1 bed flat as the brother has gone through a bad break up. He doesn't work. He is into every conspiracy theory going. This is fine but she believes everything he says - it started out that he would say not to eat certain foods so she stopped, then it started with speaking to anyone on the phone as the government is listening in (she doesn't have his number anyway) and now it is not shaving pubic hair as its part of some ritual or conspiracy. They only meet during the night and usually in a field - I ask her what they do and she said they look for aliens. Something doesn't sit right with me about this man and I am worried about her safety. Everything I say she has an answer for and believes everything he says without question (he said no-one has died from COVID-19 and we know someone who did and was confirmed by the hospital that this was the case but now she is saying that it's not real and it's a cover-up etc). She is usually not like this at all. Not only is she married but her personality is changing.

Sorry for the long thread. I didn't want to drip-feed.

YABU - Do NOT get involved and leave her to it.
YANBU - DO get involved and try and stop it.

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 03/06/2020 17:04

They meet in a field and look for aliens? That's a new one in euphemism.

Your assumption that he's married sounds a fairly obvious one to me.

Your friend seems quite malleable and dependent on these men. But if she's wilfully determined to be blind there doesn't seem much you can do. If you value her friendship let her know you are there fore her - albeit you're unwilling to be a sounding board for every single twist and turn in this 'relationship', and leave it there.

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 17:07

YANBU to be worried. Sounds like she'll just as likely turn up dead in a field one day (so keep the photo).

I've never met him but he already gives me the creeps and I sense something isn't right with him. It is made worse that she is married (not excusing her behaviour) but it makes it more secretive and has to go to places where they won't be seen by anyone they know.

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NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 17:12

They meet in a field and look for aliens? That's a new one in euphemism.

Haha apparently they haven't even kissed yet. Apparently he is waiting for her pubic hair to grow and he keeps saying the first time they have sex she should let him do anal sex but she has never done it and doesn't want to. (Sorry if too much info)

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DestinationFkd · 03/06/2020 17:15

It's nothing to do with you OP.
You need to stay out of it and get on with your own business.
She could be canoeing naked down a river while singing kumbaya and it still wouldn't be any of your business.

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 17:29

Usually, I would 100% agree and often do mind my own business but when someone is at harm whether its self-harm or by a partner then I feel I need to make it my business.

I think I am more worried because she's so gullible so she is less likely to see the truth. I haven't ever said a bad word against her DH before even when he has been moody and been rude or stormed out I will just say something like "I hope everything is ok" but I don't pry because I know it's not my business.

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DestinationFkd · 03/06/2020 17:33

It's her marriage and her life. If she wants to risk that OP, then it's up to her.
Stay out of it.

LanaDelBoy · 03/06/2020 17:33

I'm sorry OP but I need to more about the pubic hair conspiracy

LanaDelBoy · 03/06/2020 17:34

*hear more

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 17:44

I don't know what the pubic hair conspiracy is (I'm not sure I want to) but when she brought it up I was shocked so I was like WHAT THE F**K!!!! He's a freak!! lol so she got defensive and said I wouldn't understand. He believes that women should be submissive to men as in the animal kingdom it's natural for the male to be dominant so when they do have sex she needs to submit to him - so I don't know if the pubic hair is something to do with that.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 03/06/2020 18:03

Anal on the first shag eh. Crikey.

She just sounds like someone who is happy to take a back seat (no pun intended) and let the men take over. It wouldn’t suit me but she’s got no real life experience as an adult so what can she do?.

I’ve met women in the 50’s widowed who can’t tax a car or pay a bill. They just absolved themselves of ever growing up properly,

Typohere · 03/06/2020 18:06

If her husband is lovely and you are single and fancy him then tell him and be there as emotional support....

Joking (obviously)

Seriously though there must be something missing in her marriage if she is having an emotional affair and looking to move to physical affair.....

I feel for the husband.

Typohere · 03/06/2020 18:08

Aliens....

Let her pubic hair grow for him....

First time let him have anal sex...

He seems to dictate his needs a lot to her.... is she usually so passive?

Fleamaker123 · 03/06/2020 18:13

She's got 3 children... a husband...

She needs to grow up.

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 18:22

Her husband is definitely not my type haha.

She is quite gullible and I didn't think she was passive usually but now I am wondering if she always has been as she lets her DH be in charge of everything. We planned to have a girls weekend away and right before he said there could be terrorists (very unlikely at a spa in the countryside) but she ended up cancelling but I put it down to him being manipulative as he was fine with her going until he found she had to pay her own way and I wasn't paying.

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NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 18:23

She needs to grow up.

She is acting like an obsessed teenager

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FizzyGreenWater · 03/06/2020 18:27

Her DH wouldn't let her go for a country spa weekend because there might be terrorists?

Sounds like she does have a type - the complete nutjob type.

MorrisZapp · 03/06/2020 18:31

You can't save her from this. Whatever she's getting from it is a heck of a lot more powerful to her than your approval.

It will burn out.

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 18:39

Sounds like she does have a type - the complete nutjob type.

Lol this is very true but her DH is an angel compared to this new guy she's only known for a few months.

I do hope it burns out. I can't think what she is getting from it and I have asked her that as he's not that nice to her but she said they just have a connection that I wouldn't understand.

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Takingontheworld · 03/06/2020 18:44

Fucking hell. This is so incredibly disturbing.

Someone close to me was convinced by her partner he was MI16 (or whatever!?) And we all should have made a bigger deal about her strange behaviour.

She drowned her children and was sectioned. She was so normal once. She loved those babies.

NoseyfriendNC · 03/06/2020 18:47

Takingontheworld

That is awful!! I am so sorry to hear that!!

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FizzyGreenWater · 03/06/2020 18:47

Oh God Takingontheworld Flowers

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 03/06/2020 18:56

Why do you want to create so much drama

It’s for her to deal with tell her you don’t want to hear it and back off

Starcup · 03/06/2020 18:59

Morally what she’s doing isn’t good. She should come clean and tell her DH.

But it’s her for not yours. A friend should be there to support you, whatever your decision.

If you don’t agree with her affair fine, stop being friends with her, but to get involved to the point of making fake accounts and the like is far too much involvement.

Do you think she’s going to thank you when you tell her husband? I’m pretty sure she wont.

Good god, I’ve got a best friend that knows everything about me and I’m the same with her. She’s done some daft things, had an affair etc but I would never ever dream of making it my business to tell the partner.

It’s not my line and my loyalty is to her. She’s a lovely person, although a bit foolish at times. I’ve stood by her thick and thin as she has with me.

I’ve told her when she needs told but I’d never dream if blackmailing her ffs.

I mean, you just sound like not a very nice person who likes drama 🙄

BitOfANameChange · 03/06/2020 19:01

This bloke isn't going to be interested once he realises she doesn't have access to money.

While I'm all for LTB due to financial abuse (One of my ex's many little issues), this time it could actually be useful that she doesn't get access to the money.

I'm sorry, OP. Your friend is a train wreck in progress, here, and one day she'll regret it. I don't think that there's much you can do for now.

Mittens030869 · 03/06/2020 19:06

Obviously it isn't the OP's problem. But I would be very concerned in her shoes, as this man sounds very disturbing and her friend seems to be under his spell and potentially very vulnerable. I don't think she's looking for drama, I think she's just worried.

Having said that, there isn't anything you can do, other than just be there for her when it all blows up in her face.

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