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Husband's disordered eating

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cockcrowfarm · 03/06/2020 00:38

This isn't really a aibu, more wwyd, I'm posting for traffic.
My husband has very disordered eating. When he is at work he doesn't eat breakfast, rarely eats lunch and only eats dinner if it's a business meeting. He might eat a snack when he comes home at night when I'm usually asleep already with the baby. He survives the day drinking coffee.

Just before the lock down his weight was around 57kg for a 1.80meter man. I have made lots of suggestions and I'm ready to help him in any way. He agrees that there is a problem but doesn't do anything about it.

For example, I've made him smoothies with nuts, milk, fruit etc which he says taste good but he just doesn't finish it. Now, he is working from home, I can go into his room after a few hours and he's only taken a few sips. If I bring him snacks it's much the same.

We are staying at his parents house just now and his mum cooks good meals every day, a lot of meat and different vegetables. He eats a reasonable portion of it but I have to bring him to the table to eat. Today, I asked him to join us, he dissappeared for a cigarette and didn't come back. I ate with the family and then went to get him and he said he forgot and came down to eat alone. The food was really nice and he said he would leave me some since it was vegetarian, I am in no need for extra portions at the moment! In the evening I made the baby her meal and I always eat something with her, I had rice crackers, cream cheese and salad. My husband ate two apricots.

Before I had put it down to stress in work and he has a busy job but now there is less going on and he is home with good food on offer daily. He has put on a few kilos and definitely looks healthier. He says he would like to weigh 70kg but he does nothing about it. We have discussed some options, this is a long term goal and he has to slowly increase his daily calories. We read through lists online of healthy foods that help to put on weight nut, milk, cream, olive oil etc and he says he likes to eat them all but doesn't make any effort to do it.

I'm looking for long term solutions, I don't expect him to bulk up in a month. Even if he would have two digestives and a glass of milk extra, it so little effort I just can't understand why he won't do it for his health. Before lock down I had already asked him to discuss it with a doctor because I want him to realise how serious it is. He is 48 years old, these habits as well as smoking are very dangerous. As well as the damage he is doing to his organs the lack of body fat means if he ever even gets ill he will be in a bad way.

Compared to that it seems quite frivolous to say as well that it is a big turn off for me sexually, first of all the behaviour that he won't care for himself and secondly that he looks like a skeleton and doesn't have much energy.
Thanks for reading this long post. Has anyone been in a similar situation? What can I do to help?

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EmeraldShamrock · 03/06/2020 12:34

His routine and habits need to change. Pre lockdown I'd have a small breakfast with the DC before school now I don't eat until 2pm.
The caffeine and cigarettes would play a small part but is often used as a reason, there are plenty of obese smokers who drink caffeine. Ask him to look at his routine try retrain his body or focus on good food when he fancies it. I make sure I eat nutritious food doesn't appeal to me plus we don't actually need lots of food once the food he has is nutritious.

4Smalls · 03/06/2020 12:41

Agree with @SonEtLumiere:

OP would be best served with not engaging with his self destructive behaviour, precisely because it will be used as a reason not to talk about it.

Eating disorders can feed (!) on attention from loved ones. Focussing on how much someone eats almost always has the opposite result of one's intention. Not eating much is likely to be core to your spouse's sense of identity and self control - he will not give that up easily.

He sounds skinny, but not dangerously so. He is doesn't have bulimia which can be life-threatening. Hard as it may be for you, it may be best for you to ignore it.

Would give the same advice if your spouse were female.

4Smalls · 03/06/2020 13:04

I'm going to be flamed for saying this, but yes, as you predicted OP, I'm going to say you do sound a bit food obsessed:

  • your thread about MIL feeding your baby too forcefully
  • this thread
  • you having previously had an eating disorder
  • your comments on you weighing a kilo or two more or less
  • listing exactly what was eaten for snack: rice crackers, cream cheese and salad; two apricots
  • making nut smoothies for husband....

Please ignore if I'm completely off the track, but I can't help wondering if there's something more going on....

cockcrowfarm · 03/06/2020 13:07

Thank you for all the kind and helpful advice and for sharing your experiences. It is very much appreciated. Pp said that the conversation has been eye opening with regards to double standards with men and woman. It has also been quite eye opening to see how many people think if a wife is concerned with a behavior she must be nagging or trying to force a grown man to do what she wants.

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LikeDuhWhatever · 03/06/2020 13:14

Unfortunately men can also develop eating disorders, it’s not exclusively young women’s mental health problem. I am not saying your husband is anorexic but..
I am no expert anyways..

cockcrowfarm · 03/06/2020 13:14

@4smalls yes, I understand exactly where you are coming from, I could see that line of question coming even. I am completely fine, I changed a lot of things in my twenties and things started very slowly at first to become normal. My issues were wanting to be skinny and with control. I remember in my late twenties still feeling anxious when someone gave me greasy food but those days are well past. I'm now in my early 40's and even when I try to diet a bit I can't get anywhere near this frame of mind, thank goodness. Your the second person to bring up the nut smoothie! It's delicious! A handful of cashews in with the smoothie. It's creamy and delicious as well as providing protein and oils. I'm not a health freak or anything but I do try out these recipes from time to time and think it's an absolute bonus it something is sweet, creamy and satisfying yet still healthy Grin

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cockcrowfarm · 03/06/2020 13:18

Talking about his weight in kilos like that is because I want to give an impression of the problem, I'm not going to post pictures of my husband online and ask do you think he's too thin. Incidentally, he doesn't weigh himself often at all. I only know his weight because he was standing on the scales to weigh our daughter. He was shocked at his own weight.

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4Smalls · 03/06/2020 13:19

I think the nut smoothy sounds delish!!!!!

BlueBooby · 03/06/2020 13:21

@SonEtLumiere

here is some official advice for the spouses of those with anorexia

For anyone not in line for a sainthood, it’s a big ask, and can be summarized as “Accept All, with a smile of gratitude on your face”.

If you're in a loving relationship, I would think it's normal that if one person in a relationship had a problem, the other would want to try and help and support them through it, rather than just dropping them at the first bit of bother. It is important to remember your own boundaries and remember that ultimately you can't help someone who won't help themselves. It doesn't mean you have to stay with someone who has an addiction or eating disorder or mental health issue no matter what. I think there can be a middle ground.
4Smalls · 03/06/2020 13:26

It must be really hard on you to have a spouse who doesn't like to eat normally. I know I would find it hard. I wonder if there is a way for you to have a happier time re food and meals and take the focus off OH, as I think it's unlikely he is going to change much. Go out to eat with a friend once a week? Attend a cooking class? Just thinking!

cockcrowfarm · 03/06/2020 13:44

@4Smalls It mainly effects me at the weekends because through the week I will hardly see him because since the baby we were on different time schedules. He knows there is a problem but I think at the stage not fully accepting it or taking responsibility. I don't know how the next year is going to go at all. I think being separated from us will be hard for him and I hope it won't manifest into starving himself.

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cockcrowfarm · 03/06/2020 14:03

@4smalls Its nap time for the baby again so phone time for me. I was having a look for the milkshake recipe but I've used it so long I don't know where it came from. It's so delicious I want to share! You can also freeze it to make 'healthy' ice-cream. Basically: milk, banana, about ten dates, a cup of cashews and cocoa powder, stick it all in the blender and that's it.

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PippaHugo · 03/06/2020 16:51

There are good self help books for men with eating disorders. Often quiet, reflective reading can help prepare someone. Our services use:

www.amazon.co.uk/Invisible-Man-Self-help-Disorders-Compulsive/dp/1583911502?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

But there are others, I think. And BEAT have excellent advice.

mathanxiety · 03/06/2020 18:12

He knows he is not eating, he says he should eat more but doesn't, then he is shocked to see his low weight?

I would suspect body dysmorphia.

cockcrowfarm · 04/06/2020 06:22

@mathanxiety Yes, that's right. There may well be a bit of that involved as well, He doesn't easily see the weight loss. There are a few times over our relationship that I can remember that he has been shocked by his weight or body. We have a large mirror in the bathroom so there is no reason for him not to see his body but he has only 'noticed' it on a couple of occasions.

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cockcrowfarm · 04/06/2020 06:22

@PippaHugo Thank you

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Seaweed42 · 04/06/2020 07:44

Hi, eating 'disorders' are a coping mechanism. At the time it feels like part of who the person is. If this part feels under attack it will get more frightened, of losing the rules that he uses to keep him feeling safe.
Does he ever get up with the baby and let you sleep at the weekend? Why does he sleep til lunch, you are working hard too minding a baby all week. There is usually perfectionism, a very critical inner voice and guilt that drives this type of person. He might be more likely to take you up on suggestions about seeing GP re easing his stress during thus difficult time. Antidepressants could be useful to take down the anxiety and quieten the inner voice if the person won't approach therapy, and I suspect he is 'too busy' for therapy. If he is not seeing a problem...then it's not a problem in his eyes. Its a partnership, minding a baby is hard and lonely work.

cockcrowfarm · 04/06/2020 09:28

@Seaweed42 thank you, no he has never got up with the baby or put her to sleep for naps or anything. He works during the week and I haven't been, so I don't mind too much, not that it wouldn't be a nice break! He went to therepy before after his divorce but I don't think he feels this is such a big problem. Just it's not so bad because we are with family, stress is lower and we are having meals together. In a few months he'll be back working and alone and I'm sure it will come back fully again because although things are better now nothing in his mind has changed.

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MrDarcysMa · 04/06/2020 11:21

It sounds like it will be affecting his health, being very underweight puts strain on the heart and organs just like being very overweight can. If he has an ED thought he's unlikely to admit it.
I would be tempted so continue making the smoothies but smaller volume, but pack them with oats/ nuts/ milk/ half a banana for nutrients. If you present him with a smaller smoothie he's more likely to finish it, you can then work up to bigger portions.
Would he try Huel or a similar product, I hate it but my OH isn't into food, has very little appetite and would rather go without than make a meal when he's busy so this is a good option for him.

MrDarcysMa · 04/06/2020 11:23

Also agree that coffee and fags will be completely killing his appetite. if he quit these he's probably want to eat more, but again, try telling and adult what they can and cannot do, especially when they've done it for years....

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