To be absolutely fucking livid

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I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

I realise that Coronavirus may not be as dangerous as it first appeared but it is still here, it's still killing 100's of people a day, it's still bad news for anyone overwight, over 50 or with underlying health conditions.

All these people behaving as if it's "gone away". It hasn't!

I'm livid that the government acted too little too late. We didn't close our borders, we haven't got a proper track and trace in place. We look like idiots. Now they are saying oh it's fine to have BBQ's but bring your own ketchup - for goodness sake!

I do think lockdown should be tentatively eased - as a self employed person I've been happy to start to go back to work but I'm being so so careful with hygiene and social distancing. Baby steps. I also do think people should be able to go out for a walk or see relatives so long as social distancing. But there seems to be a general mood of oh it's fine we can all just go back to normal - in fact worse than normal, let's all crowd together and have a big old party!

I'm afraid there will be a second wave due to all this irresponsible behaviour and that we will need to go back to full lockdown, putting businesses and people's health in jeopardy. I'm worried that my daughter won't be able to start uni in September. I'm worried that my neices who are doctors will have to deal with the fall out from all this. I'm worried my husband will be unable to get another job. I'm scared and depressed.

And all these fuckers ignoring social distancing are just taking risks with their own lives and everybody elses - when they visit a beach resort or other tourist place they use the toilets, use the cashpoints, visit the supermarkets or corner shop - all prime places to spread the virus far and wide.

I just don't think the message to be careful has been hammered home hard enough.

And as I said before 1 in 4 adults in the UK is functionally illiterate.

Another factor is humans are herd like. Once people see others doing something they'll do it and so on.

*This argument just does not wash . It’s apathetic excuse just to be selfish .

He did not break social distancing rules . He did not shit on a beach or jump off Durdle door and tie up the emergency’s services . He did not even mix households and he did have a vunerable child .i think a lot of us are bored with people using that argument just to be selfish .
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He broke the rules, the rules that his own employer set. He was a piss poor role model
and had he been a footballer more people would've been calling for him to be prosecuted.

As it is it's not stupid Tory wankers saying it's a non issue!

If you're feeling fit and well the majority of people in that position aren't going to stay in 'incase they're asymptomatic and may pass it on to a stranger who knows someone/has a family member that is vulnerable'.

Meh. Being angry about it won’t solve anything.

• You'll probably win, OP. The very fearful people and mood seems to be in charge.*

Agreed and the fearful and irrational probably could do with getting out more.

It seems to me they will never be happy until we have a full lockdown, in other words, not the half arsed one imposed by the government, but a proper weld your doors shut one. Then they'll be happy.

@lljkk

Totally agree.

What this 'crisis' has revealed is that there are a lot of totally risk averse people in this country who like to take direction from those who they think know better. Worrying.

I have had a heart attack and pulmonary embolism last year but the NHS has been 'pedestrian' in sorting out my issues. So when lockdown came I could have hidden away hoping for it all to blow over and got extremely anxious.

But what is the point of that? Instead I used lockdown to walk and ride my bike and build up strength and endurance every day.

I am lucky I could do that but my point is - far better to carry out your own personal risk assessment, be sensible, and just get on and do things to improve your situation. We should all put this risk into perspective!

I don't do this out of ignorance. I have read plenty about the virus from all points of view.

But hey if there are people who want to disengage from society until there is a proven vaccine - that's fine - just don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

There comes a time when people need to decide what's best for themselves, as it's not a nanny state. Where I live, it's like lockdown hasn't eased. Same where my friends live. I don't see this easing and of all the colleagues I speak to, who are located in various places around the UK, none say they have eased lockdown. As for wearing masks, I won't wear one as I'm asthmatic and I don't consider them safe. If you're worried, stay in lockdown, millions are

People are not idiots

Unfortunately a small, but significant, proportion of them are.

I think these last three months have highlighted how many people are basically just Scared of Life and how many people are genuinely stupid. It's depressing.

we're allowed to drive to beaches

We're "allowed" to smoke fags, self-harm, tombstone from the top of of Durdle Door and god knows how many other risky behaviours.

That doesn't mean they're a good idea. I don't think they're a good idea, so I'm still WFH, only going for a daily walk and wearing a scarf over my face when I do the weekly shop (and washing it when I get home).

I hope that will be enough to prevent being infected by idiots who can't resist doing everything they're "allowed" to.

And, amazingly, I haven't been to Ikea for 6 years, and have managed perfectly well without it.

@LakieLady I'm getting back to "normal" life, been into London City the past two days, I'm B shopping for non essential stuff (garden centre) , not been to Ikea yet, I don't need anything and working from home I don't have the time.

I'm doing great ...,, all with social distancing!

I'm enjoying getting back to the "new normal" and this week I feel so much better,.

I'm not breaking any rules and i
Intend to follow the guidelines.

IMO licking yourself indoors is likely to lead to other issues.

Locking not licking

so by radio I just got my attention diverted to this...

Global Amount spent in 2016 on malaria research: USD $4.3 billion
# of people (worldwide) who died from malaria in 2018: 405,000
2/3 of malaria deaths are children under 5 yrs old.

This year's bill for fighting covid, so far:
UK: £300-337 bn
USA: $3 trn and climbing.

And then people wonder why I don't support Lockdown.
Would the world change if got "fucking livid"? Asking for 405,000.

Not sure if that's the best comparison @lljkk as we know how to prevent malaria fairly cost effectively (although I'm not saying thats an excuse not to conduct further research of course). It's just people would rather donate to extremely cash rich and not particularly cost effective cancer research organisations or animal welfare charities. Which is their right, children dying thousands of miles away less relatable I suppose.

@lljkk

so by radio I just got my attention diverted to this...

Global Amount spent in 2016 on malaria research: USD $4.3 billion
# of people (worldwide) who died from malaria in 2018: 405,000
2/3 of malaria deaths are children under 5 yrs old.

This year's bill for fighting covid, so far:
UK: £300-337 bn
USA: $3 trn and climbing.

And then people wonder why I don't support Lockdown.
Would the world change if got "fucking livid"? Asking for 405,000.

So far as I know you've been entirely supportive of lockdown, unless I have you confused with another poster?

You have me confused with someone else, Marginal.

Go on then, @nanbread: what is the fairly cost-effective way to prevent all malaria deaths (and morbidity, I suppose?)

@lljkk the economy is one of the reasons I don’t support never ending lockdown.
All this money being spent left, right and centre will have to be paid back.

Although ministers and their dodgy dealing mates should be top of the list when it comes to repaying. We had something workable back in March for track and trace, the app I used had a couple of flaws in the early days but worked. They were quick to implement changes to make it more user friendly and they were clear about data sharing.

All Bluetooth is switched off in my home now.

@lljkk impregnated nets, and education on how and why to use them. Donating to a malaria net charity offers the best "cost per life" (for want of a less crass phrase).

To the poster further up - you are correct. This country is full of fearful and very scared people. Many of the very vulnerable aren't the ones that are scared though. There are some very hysterical people out there. They want a nanny state. They want to be told what to do and every eventuality spelt out to them. They want every decision made for them. They are scared of everything. They might be happy if 66.5 million people are kept locked up and the economy decimated and people are not allowed to go out until there is not 1 single case of the virus.

I've never heard the phrase 'nanny state' used before other than by Daily Mail journalists and Tory MPs.

Has MN suddenly become a hangout for either of the above when I wasn't looking?

Slightly sidetracked by that from my main point- baffled by posters who aren't scared and nervous given the incredibly high number of UK cases and deaths.

Who are the people who read the latest death numbers and go la la la I just want to go to IKEA so bad it's worth dying for or giving someone else a potentially fatal disease?

Cummings was so sure that he was right that his wife wrote a fictional account of their London lockdown in the Spectator.

@xxyzz

Slightly sidetracked by that from my main point- baffled by posters who aren't scared and nervous given the incredibly high number of UK cases and deaths.

Who are the people who read the latest death numbers and go la la la I just want to go to IKEA so bad it's worth dying for or giving someone else a potentially fatal disease?

People outside of the shielding category are more likely to die in a car accident (on the way to Ikea, for example) than of coronavirus so there's really never a very good time to go to Ikea.

@EveryDayIsADuvetDay

Problem is. we're not 'following the science' we Boris is playing 'what shiny exciting thing can I find today to make people forget and stop whinging about Dominic Cummings'

Hopefully there will be numerous threads about Rosie Duffield that’ll make people forget but I suspect not as she’s labour